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Is there life after death?
There is life after death; it is heaven. 6%  6%  [ 1 ]
Reincarnation 22%  22%  [ 4 ]
Time is cyclical; we will relive our lives. 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
I can't say for sure. 22%  22%  [ 4 ]
You die and that is it. 50%  50%  [ 9 ]
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18 Dec 2020, 2:37 am

They say there are ultimately two great certainties in life: death and taxes.

Regardless of your core beliefs, the ultimate outcome of your own mortality is something that indubitably you have had or currently have, pondered to the nth degree. There is unlikely to be any consensus on this topic. However, in spite of the fact whether you are theist, atheist, or agnostic, there is great variability on the exact nature of life's final mystery.

My impressions -

I think that at the end of day, no matter what sort of position you are firmly convinced of, the correct position on the afterlife (if there is any) will eventually be declassified to us when we finally ditch our mortal coil.


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18 Dec 2020, 3:50 am

Life after death doesn't necessarily mean heaven though.

Have you ever researched the Jewish perspective?



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18 Dec 2020, 5:13 am

you go to the kiosk next to the pearly gates [in a spectral mall that goes on forever] and take a number, then get into an eternal queue and wait. seriously, i would first read "life after life" by dr. raymond moody. then i'd read "return from tomorrow" by dr. george ritchie MD, then i'd read "you cannot die" by dr. ian stephenson. then i would read "journeys out of the body" by robert monroe, then i'd read "multidimensional man" and "vistas of infinity" by jurgen ziewe. the gist of all this reading is that what we experience in life is the teeniest of fractions of the totality of all existence in this metaverse that contains our particular universe.



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18 Dec 2020, 5:25 am

Supremely rational people will say all the evidence suggests that with the destruction of our brain, so goes our identity/consciousness. 8)
Then you have the others. 8O



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18 Dec 2020, 6:22 am

A different view: You don't.

Due to the law of conservation of energy, nothing can really be destroyed.

While the concept of "You" may not exist after death, everything that "You" are made of will continue to exist in some form - it has just been converted into something else.



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18 Dec 2020, 6:42 am

N,N-Dimethyltryptamine is released in the brain, also the chemical released when we were born, a powerful Phycadelic chemical naturally found in some trees and plants... and apparently in the brain when we birth and die. Visual horizons of patterns will be visible before death, some say meet DMT aliens, spiritual beings - as per called in the phyconaut community, and then live in pure external nothingness.

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^N,N-Dimethyltryptamine visual art. :ninja:

So basically when death occurs, a brief powerful Phycadelic trip will occur, according to science.


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18 Dec 2020, 11:52 am

GGPViper wrote:
A different view: You don't.

Due to the law of conservation of energy, nothing can really be destroyed.

While the concept of "You" may not exist after death, everything that "You" are made of will continue to exist in some form - it has just been converted into something else.


If I am not mistaken, Brian Cox peddled that view extensively: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tva ... o-God.html

I for one feel a sense of minor irony that Cox claims he has disproved the afterlife, yet simultaneously, insists that rejecting the notion of God as a form of naivety.


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18 Dec 2020, 11:58 am

GGPViper wrote:
A different view: You don't.

Due to the law of conservation of energy, nothing can really be destroyed.

While the concept of "You" may not exist after death, everything that "You" are made of will continue to exist in some form - it has just been converted into something else.
When you switch off your computer, do its processes continue to operate somewhere else?

While it is true that energy is conserved, once the source of that energy (a living brain) is switched off (dies), there is no longer any energy to sustain its processes (thoughts).  So, when your brain dies, your thought processes end, and whatever becomes of "you" after that is up for conjecture.


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18 Dec 2020, 2:00 pm

Fnord wrote:
GGPViper wrote:
A different view: You don't.

Due to the law of conservation of energy, nothing can really be destroyed.

While the concept of "You" may not exist after death, everything that "You" are made of will continue to exist in some form - it has just been converted into something else.
When you switch off your computer, do its processes continue to operate somewhere else?

While it is true that energy is conserved, once the source of that energy (a living brain) is switched off (dies), there is no longer any energy to sustain its processes (thoughts).  So, when your brain dies, your thought processes end, and whatever becomes of "you" after that is up for conjecture.


I can recall reading somewhere an opinion that consciousness is like a cheap HP printer. When you unplug the said printer, the green 'ON' light is on for half a minute before it withers away.


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18 Dec 2020, 2:10 pm

death, I imagine.


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18 Dec 2020, 5:34 pm

Putrefaction sets in.

(which sounds pretty metal if you ask me \m/)


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18 Dec 2020, 9:30 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
Putrefaction sets in.

(which sounds pretty metal if you ask me \m/)


I don't get it.


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18 Dec 2020, 10:34 pm

Deltaville wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Putrefaction sets in.

(which sounds pretty metal if you ask me \m/)


I don't get it.


Putrefaction sets in sounds like a generic death metal song title. :nerdy:


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18 Dec 2020, 11:59 pm

Don't know. I'll have to post a thread about it when it happens.


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19 Dec 2020, 12:00 am

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
Don't know. I'll have to post a thread about it when it happens.


Haha lol


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19 Dec 2020, 12:03 am

It's an unapproachable topic - both for the political and historical tensions and because what we do have to empirically look at is cloaked in absurdity.

Even as a non-physicalist myself hearing people talk about NDE's only does so much for me. The other piece, even if a person technically has convincing experiences of communication or contact with non-physical forms of consciousness it's still a leap of faith that the same will extend to them personally.


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