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03 Sep 2020, 6:11 pm

Has anybody else noticed how desperately the media, social and otherwise, has pushed the idea of racial conflict over the past few months? On the television, and the Internet, there is constant emphasis on racial identity and on the alleged aggressions of one group against another.

Its so obviously being dictated from above, I would guess foundations and think tanks want to play a little game of divide and rule with us.

I mean, my neighborhood is racially mixed and everybody gets along just fine. I rarely see any conflict irl.


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03 Sep 2020, 6:18 pm

I noticed since the death of George Floyd, all this racial issue stuff spiked up. It has always been around but the death of him made it be more aware in the media. Plus books like White Fragility picked up in sales as well and so did some other books about racial issues.


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03 Sep 2020, 6:22 pm

It's happening more in urban areas than in rural communities. I live in a mixed neighborhood too and do not see the protests and violence because I live in a rural town.


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03 Sep 2020, 6:23 pm

Hey DeathEmperor, hope you are having a great day.


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03 Sep 2020, 6:25 pm

I actually am, off at my Nana's house for the weekend to help with a yard sale and make some extra money. :)


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03 Sep 2020, 7:14 pm

Romofan wrote:
... Its so obviously being dictated from above...
How is this "obvious" to you?  Can you back up your allegation with valid evidence?

By "evidence", I mean something more vetted than excuses like, "connect the dots", "follow the money", "it should be obvious to anyone", "look it up", et cetera.


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03 Sep 2020, 9:33 pm

Fnord wrote:
Romofan wrote:
... Its so obviously being dictated from above...
How is this "obvious" to you?  Can you back up your allegation with valid evidence?

By "evidence", I mean something more vetted than excuses like, "connect the dots", "follow the money", "it should be obvious to anyone", "look it up", et cetera.


While I get how what you are saying can be valid, I would point to BLM supporting Kamala Harris, who on criminal justice does not deserve to be VP and as much as I hate her Whitmer would have made a better pick. Further it seems like the person they choose to be the martyr for the cause is probably the worse spokes person you could ask for. At least with Eric Garner you could argue that he is the poster boy for over criminalization (selling loose cigs should not be a crime).

Further you are called a white supremacist if you question the collectivist nature of this, not all that different from Trump (repeating things to make you comply, simple one sentence slogans, etc.). In addition, the assault on private property (burning down businesses, "rent is theft", pushing off theft like it is nothing) dovetails nicely with the ownerless society that is being pushed both intentionally and not intentionally. I am not saying that BLM is enforcing Agenda 21 or anything like that, but they have the attitudes that would be necessary for that to be implemented. It is also interesting how the timing goes will with the protests in Chile. Could be a coincidence or a mere reaction to the circumstances around us.

I really wish the Republicans would talk a bit more about what is holding back both rural whites and urban blacks: going off the gold standard destroyed the need to produce anything due to the reserve status of the dollar, so we export our inflation in exchange for goods, introducing free enterprise zones with zero taxes (in theory it would even be possible for states to pull this off, but long story), encouraging self defense through tax credits, talking about over criminalization and cleaning the books of stupid laws, and paying down the debt due to crowding out effect and chance of interest taking over the budget and killing any social welfare we could afford.



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03 Sep 2020, 9:51 pm

I think that the upcoming civil war won't be just about race, it's going to be about extremist left wing ideology vs extremist right wing ideology and a battle of the haves and have nots who blame each other and are both openly hoping for an excuse to kill each other. The elitists are stoking the flames of hate to get the many morons in America to slaughter each other, and for exactly what cause? What does anybody get out of this BS?

As Director Werner Herzog 'did not' say (but rings very true in my honest opinion):


"Dear America: You are waking up, as Germany once did, to the awareness that 1/3 of your people would kill another 1/3, while 1/3 watches."


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03 Sep 2020, 10:16 pm

[i]How is this "obvious" to you? Can you back up your allegation with valid evidence?

By "evidence", I mean something more vetted than excuses like, "connect the dots", "follow the money", "it should be obvious to anyone", "look it up", et cetera...[/I



Sure, I can (not that I see too many footnotes on WP :jester: but por ejemplo:

"The watchword of the Ford Foundation is Divide and Conquer. The goal of its projects is always to play one group in the population against some other group so as to create conflict, strife and division, so that the Wall Street interests can emerge unscathed..."

---Webster Tarpley Barack Obama: The Unauthorized Biography, p67

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or, from Jacobin Magazine,

"The (Ford) Foundation’s support of community control marked the first of these experiments. Driven simultaneously by the fear of urban unrest and Bundy’s overweening confidence that he held the formula for a successful postcolonial transition, whether in Vietnam or post‒civil rights America, the Foundation’s involvement in the New York schools crisis ushered in a new phase of social development. During it, the Foundation worked directly with black power advocates, albeit to achieve its, not their, objectives."


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03 Sep 2020, 10:20 pm

Typical, brilliant post from zacb


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03 Sep 2020, 10:46 pm

It was like this last presidential election.

before: Michael Brown, Sam Debose, Terence Crutcher, Philando Castile

now: George Floyd, Jacob Blake, Dijon Kizzee ...

All of these above black men would not follow police orders.


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03 Sep 2020, 10:48 pm

What part of "protect & serve" is lost on you?

Police orders are usually violently motivated in these scenarios.


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03 Sep 2020, 11:16 pm

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All of these above black men would not follow police orders.


Would you follow police orders if they were already killing you?


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03 Sep 2020, 11:40 pm

Extrajudicial killing is not something you should be normalizing.


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04 Sep 2020, 12:02 am

^Precisely. They don't always follow their own orders/protocols. Why all the police brutality when a suspect is supposed to be innocent until proven guilty in a law court?


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04 Sep 2020, 12:42 am

cberg wrote:
Extrajudicial killing is not something you should be normalizing.

The people who stir the "racial pot" appear to be trying to normalize ...

1. committing crimes is OK
2. not following police orders is OK
3. endangering police or the welfare of others is OK
4. lack of respect for law enforcement is OK


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