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01 Aug 2020, 2:23 am

This thread is dedicated to share and discuss about epic historical battles of all ages.

This is the Battle of Pressburg, 907 AD ⚔️ Hungarian Invasion of Europe

The battle was a live demonstration of the archer cavalry’s effectiveness, it is epic. I am not sure if they learned that from the Mongols.



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01 Aug 2020, 7:21 am

The battle of Kosovo june 28th 1389 celebrated as St.Vitus day(or in Serbian Vidovdan day) on honor of the Serbian orthodox saints who died fighting the Ottomans.The Ottomans won and it's rare that a defeat is celebrated but it's the biggest holiday in Serbia and Montenegro.

Ironically the day that Archduke Franz Ferdinand was assassinated by Gavrilo Princip to start WW1 was on St.Vitus day,june 28th 1914,and war was declared on Serbia a month later.


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01 Aug 2020, 10:15 am

The battle of Leuctra in 371 BC saw the legendary Spartan hoplites - who famously held back the Persians at the battle of Thermopylae in 480 BC (The "300") - defeated at the hands of... 150 gay couples - also known as The Sacred Band of Thebes.

As with the death of Leonidas at The Battle of Thermopylae, a Spartan King was killed in the Battle of Leuctra (Cleombrotus I), but this was anything but a glorious death, as the Spartans actually significantly outnumbered the Thebans.

The battle thus signalled the end of Spartan battlefield supremacy, but it didn't matter in the end, as Philip II of Macedon (the father of Alexander the Great) later annihilated the Sacred Band and invaded large parts of Ancient Greece - thus bringing about the end of the era of Greek city-states.



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01 Aug 2020, 12:41 pm

/\Welcome back!
Battle of Attu.
My Father was there.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Attu


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01 Aug 2020, 3:17 pm

I would recommend the YouTube channel BazBattles to fans of vids like History Marche. Both are great for visualizing these things (which is especially great for autistic history fans imo).

The Battle of Myeongnyang in 1597 is one of my favorite naval battles. The great Admiral Yi Sun-sin of the Joseon (Korean) navy, after a crushing defeat at Chilchongryang decided to make a last stand against the Japanese in the narrow strait of Myeongnyang in southwest Korea. After Chilchongryang, the most of the Joseon fleet's ships were destroyed or fled, leaving Yi with a mere 13 (!) ships against the japanese's 300+ ships (~100 warships, ~200 transports).

Yi specifically chose the strait of Myeongnyang for his stand because he knew the currents well. He knew that the currents changed from north to south every three hours, and timed the battle accordingly. At the start, Yi attacked the Japanese fleet with only his flagship to lure them into the strait. The Japanese advanced northward with the current against the Koreans, and the other Joseon ships joined the battle after seeing Yi's courage fighting the Japanese fleet alone. Eventually, Yi's plan went into motion, when the currents shifted southward, pushing the Japanese backwards and adding to the ramming speed of the Koreans ships. The Japanese ships could not make enough headway against the current, and were pushed backwards, colliding with their own ships behind them.

Unable to advance or maneuver, the Japanese were helpless against the ramming and projectiles from the Korean ships. Japanese sailors attempting to flee drowned or were crushed between their ships. Eventually, the Japanese fled southwards in disarray.

Out of ~330 ship, the Japanese lost at least 30. Half of the Japanese sailors and soldiers were killed, including half of their officers. The Koreans, on the other hand, suffered no ships lost, and 11 casualties total: 2 killed and 3 wounded on Yi's flagship, and 6 killed in the rest of the fleet.

This shocking victory cemented Admiral Yi as a national hero, and restored hope for the Korean cause. Ming China also felt renewed confidence in the Korean side, and sent several ships to fight alongside the Koreans. Many Korean ships that had fled after Chilchongryang rejoined Yi, swelling the fleets numbers. This was not the end of Japans invasion of Korea, but it remains a stunning victory for a force outnumbered 10 to 1.


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01 Aug 2020, 6:12 pm

Teutoburg Forest, 9 A.D.

The Romans had a foothold in ancient Germany during the reign of Augustus, conquering the tribes living between the Rhine and the Elbe. During this time, the Romans had demanded hostages from Germanic chiefs, who were then sent to Rome to be educated then enrolled into the Roman military with Roman citizenship. One of these hostages had been Arminius, who had probably served in suppressing the Illyrian uprising as a cavalry commander. Returning home to his tribe, the Cherusci, he found Augustus had sent Publius Quinctilius Varus as governor of Germania. As the former governor of Syria, Varus had gained a reputation for brutality and graft, and was now stirring up resentment among the Germans for his draconian introduction of Roman rule, and for his bigotry toward the tribesmen who he thought of as barely human. Arminius had gained the trust of Varus, all the while secretly raising a multi-tribal revolt. Archaeology has since discovered a camouflaged wall built by the Germans, in a narrow stretch bound opposite by a marsh, near modern day Kalkriese, where Arminius planned to ensnare the Romans. By September, Arminius had staged a minor uprising in the Teutoburg forest, a region little touched by Romanization. Luring the Romans into the trap, Arminius waged a three day running battle against the Romans, who were suffering heavy casualties. Wounded, and seeing no hope for escape, Varus committed suicide, after which the three legions under his command lost all hope, and were slaughtered, either on the battlefield, or after as human sacrifices to Wotan (Odin) for this great victory. Few Romans escaped with their lives.
Following the Teutoburg forest disaster, most of Germany remained elusive to Roman rule, despite efforts by the next emperor, Tiberius, who had sent his nephew Germanicus in a luckless attempt to reconquer the country beyond the Rhine. This military disaster had lain the seeds for the Roman Empire in the west, as Germanic invaders centuries later would invade and partition the Roman lands. Also importantly, the descendants of many of the tribes who had taken part in Arminius' revolt in later times became the confederation of the Ripuarian Franks, who along with the Salian Franks, were the people who filled the power vacuum left by the Romans.


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01 Aug 2020, 9:07 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Teutoburg Forest, 9 A.D.


Quintili Vare, legiones redde! - Augustus

The Romans were great and all but they suffered some damn humiliating defeats. Lake Trasimene, Trebia, Cannae, Carrhae, Arausio, Edessa, and that's just before the East/West split.


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01 Aug 2020, 10:34 pm

roronoa79 wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Teutoburg Forest, 9 A.D.


Quintili Vare, legiones redde! - Augustus

The Romans were great and all but they suffered some damn humiliating defeats. Lake Trasimene, Trebia, Cannae, Carrhae, Arausio, Edessa, and that's just before the East/West split.


Indeed!


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01 Aug 2020, 11:47 pm

Obviously The Bridge Wars need mentioned.


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02 Aug 2020, 2:31 am

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Obviously The Bridge Wars need mentioned.


The loss of life was devastating.


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02 Aug 2020, 4:27 am

The battle of Changping in 262-260 BC between the Qin state and the Zhao state is infamous for its outcome: When the Zhao army surrendered, the Qin commander Bai Qi had 450,000 surrendering soldiers executed by burying them alive.

It was impossible for the previously powerful Zhao to recover from such a massive loss of its adult male population, and three decades later, the Qin state (in only 9 years) defeated or subdued all the of the other 6 of the Warring States before unifying China in 221 BC.

It all fell apart in the 15 years, and the Han dynasty took over in 202 BC and ruled China for approximately 400 years.

It is not established with certainty that the Qin state gave its name to China (the Chinese name is Zhōngguó), but it is considered to be the most like origin of the name.



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02 Aug 2020, 8:21 am

This Battle is claimed to have save the Muslim world from the Mongols.



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09 Sep 2020, 4:20 pm

I'm not a fan of battles. :shrug: Make love not war! :flower:


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09 Sep 2020, 8:58 pm

I am a little fascinated with World War 0. This occurred around 11,000 years ago. It was a battle for world domination. Only a few historical accounts were passed down through the generations primarily by word of mouth, mainly early Egyptians. There is an account given in Plato’s dialogues (Timaeus and Critias).

According to Plato, a Pre-Flood civilization existed. The civilizations had massive fleets and armies and large cities. They knew the art of writing. They had divisions of labor (artisans, husbandmen, warriors, carpenters, rulers, shipbuilders, stone quarry workers, metal workers, merchants, and sailors). The Pre-Flood civilization existed in a great island nation in the Atlantic Ocean called Atlantis, and in distant nations around the Mediterranean (including a pre-Greek and a pre-Egyptian civilizations) and in Asia. The nation of Atlantis created a massive army and attacked the civilization of Northern Africa and overthrew them. Then they attacked the civilization on the northern side of the Mediterranean and defeated them. Next they attacked the civilization in what is now Greece where the Atlanteans were defeated.


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09 Sep 2020, 9:53 pm

The Russian naval campaign that climaxed with the decisive sea Battle of Tsushima in the Russo-Japanese War of 1905.
What lead up to the battle was a train wreck on the high seas.