Page 1 of 2 [ 30 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

magz
Forum Moderator
Forum Moderator

User avatar

Joined: 1 Jun 2017
Age: 35
Gender: Female
Posts: 8,610
Location: Poland

28 Oct 2020, 10:15 am

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54716780
What's painful to me is not only the change of the law - I'm rather pro life but in a pragmatic manner, not at a cost of other tragedies - but how they react to the protests. Our current government calls to "save real Poland" from "those who are destroying it"... sounds familiar? Yeah, cut your society in half and call one half to fight against the other - sounds familiar?
Fkfkfkfkfkfkfkfk!

This board requires you to be registered and logged-in to view hidden content.

Yeah, sorry, I'm immoderate right now. It's all happening while covid is gaining momentum and unofficial data shows much more deaths than the confirmed ones - likely, a lot of Poles choose to avoid doctors and hospitals and die at home. The official data is published with some 6 weeks delay.
And who will be blamed for this? Obviously the "rioters" because what's wrong with making extremely controversial legislation in the middle of an outbreak?

***** ***


_________________
Let's not confuse being normal with being mentally healthy.


kraftiekortie
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 4 Feb 2014
Gender: Male
Posts: 72,506
Location: Queens, NYC

28 Oct 2020, 10:33 am

I feel like Magz really needs a firm hug right now

{{{{{{{MAGZ}}}}}}}



aghogday
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 25 Nov 2010
Age: 60
Gender: Male
Posts: 9,296

28 Oct 2020, 10:49 am

magz wrote:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54716780
What's painful to me is not only the change of the law - I'm rather pro life but in a pragmatic manner, not at a cost of other tragedies - but how they react to the protests. Our current government calls to "save real Poland" from "those who are destroying it"... sounds familiar? Yeah, cut your society in half and call one half to fight against the other - sounds familiar?
Fkfkfkfkfkfkfkfk!
This board requires you to be registered and logged-in to view hidden content.

Yeah, sorry, I'm immoderate right now. It's all happening while covid is gaining momentum and unofficial data shows much more deaths than the confirmed ones - likely, a lot of Poles choose to avoid doctors and hospitals and die at home. The official data is published with some 6 weeks delay.
And who will be blamed for this? Obviously the "rioters" because what's wrong with making extremely controversial legislation in the middle of an outbreak?

***** ***


SMiLes, magz, SaVE THiS UNtil Now or Later At YouR LeiSure Please...

i Will Relate, Per This Quote from the Article 'You' Provide;
For it is True, The World Health Organization Backs up
The Truth that When Medically Safe Abortions Go Away,
Unsafe Abortions that Lead to Much Greater Total Harming,
Maiming, And Death For All Concerned Only Rises; so, indeed
THE TRUTH IS standing up for Pro Choice IS STANDING UP FOR ALL LIFE.

"There are just over 1,000 legal abortions every year in Poland,
but women's groups say the number of abortions carried out
illegally or abroad could be between 80,000 and 120,000."

Additionally, In the United States, Abortions are at the
Lowest Levels Since 1973, When Rowe Versus Wade
Comes into Play; Credit Effective Family Planning;
Including Sex Education and Easily Affordable
Access to Effective Contraception; Precisely
What the so-called 'Religious Right'

In So-Called 'Moral Authority'
Wishes to Take Away, only
to Ultimately Increase,
in Effect, the Number
of Abortions with
More Harm, Maiming,
And Death For All Concerned...

ONCE AGAIN:

IGNORANCE KILLS
IGNORANCE KILLS
IGNORACNE KILLS

Science Saves Lives;
And even Just Frigging
Common Sense of Empathy
For Those Who have gotten
Around in Life Enough to See
How Differently Life in Dark and Light
Will Be; Express iT All! Scream! Slice the
Air With Your Arms And Feet! i understand


How

You

Come

to Longer

Be Able to Feel

It's Not Easy Being
A Smartest, Strongest
Most Loving Soul in Any Room...

But FoR Me at Least it's Worth the

Effort to

Express iT All! Scream! Slice the
Air With Your Arms And Feet!

Just For My Own Peace And Warmth
of Heaven Within No One Controls but me...

Express iT All! Scream! Slice the
Air With Your Arms And Feet!

In Peace And Warmth Again

Tides go in and out

Waves Roar to calm

New Moons Bring Full Blue Moons True...

And It's True, ThiS iNdeed iS How i continue
to Become A Smartest, Strongest, Most Loving one in A Room

Express iT All! Scream! Slice the
Air With Your Arms And Feet!

In Peace And

Warmth Again

For No Group,
Person, or Lie
Will Take This Love Away...

Tides go in and out

Waves Roar to calm

New Moons Bring Full Blue Moons True...

Hey, You Almost inspired a Song; hehe,
what this means is, if i ever Publish It As i DO THAT
Every WHere i Grow Now... You Get All 'the Money';
The Same Meaning And

Purpose Now

As only
You See

It

Fitting

NoW

As This
'Song'
is for
You for
i do Know
Similarly How You
Unfeel Now iN Pain...

Express iT All! Scream! Slice the
Air With Your Arms And Feet!

In Peace And

Warmth Again

For No Group,
Person, or Lie
Will Take This Love Away...

Yeah, Fkfkfkfkfk! Sounds
Familiar to me; Fred And Katrina
Always Changing Hell to Heaven WiTh SMiLes..

Hehe; it's
A Secret
Don't
'Tale'
Anyone
Who WE ARe..;)


_________________
KATiE MiA FredericK!iI

Gravatar is one of the coolest things ever!! !

http://en.gravatar.com/katiemiafrederick


Fnord
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 6 May 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 45,694
Location: Stendec

28 Oct 2020, 11:29 am

It's similar to the Vietnam-era policy of destroying villages to "save" them -- just an excuse to kill people.


_________________
*TRE45ON!!*
Lock Him Up!

(Claiming moral equivalency between one's own
immoral acts and those of another is a null defense.)


blazingstar
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 19 Nov 2017
Age: 67
Gender: Female
Posts: 4,460

28 Oct 2020, 11:30 am

Poland has made our (US) news, which is pretty unusual. I have been thinking of you in the middle of this turmoil.

Please don't harm yourself. I understand the urge. Resist it.

(((magz)))
:heart: :heart: :heart:


_________________
paralysis by over-analysis


magz
Forum Moderator
Forum Moderator

User avatar

Joined: 1 Jun 2017
Age: 35
Gender: Female
Posts: 8,610
Location: Poland

28 Oct 2020, 2:21 pm

Thanks.
Things are peaceful where I live but... unfair. Deeply unfair and damaging, on more levels than just the new legislation - these ***** *** guys first started a massive anti-LGBT campaign, now this abortion thing - in effect, the unhealthy polarization of society grows and escalates and instead of finding solutions people are fighting each other...
Meh.
Sounds familiar?


_________________
Let's not confuse being normal with being mentally healthy.


magz
Forum Moderator
Forum Moderator

User avatar

Joined: 1 Jun 2017
Age: 35
Gender: Female
Posts: 8,610
Location: Poland

29 Oct 2020, 8:32 am

Lol. I just read an announcement from the District of Education urging to "take preventive measures" against "using children" in promoting "LGBT ideologies" during

Rainbow Friday

An LGBTQ acceptance event.

Great. Without that announcement I would have no idea about the event - I don't hang out on f***book or t***r.
My children are probably too young to get mixed into it but I'm willing take part myself 8)


_________________
Let's not confuse being normal with being mentally healthy.


Pepe
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 11 Jun 2013
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,990
Location: Australia

30 Oct 2020, 12:30 am

A rose for a rose. :wink:

Image


_________________
Laughter is the best medicine. Age-appropriate behaviour is an arbitrary NT social construct.
Don't tell me white lies. Gaslight me at your peril. Don't give me your bad attitude.
If I'm so bad, pass me by. ;)


And one more thing,


"A stranger is a friend gang-stalker you haven't met yet."

Truth may be inconvenient but it is never politically incorrect...The Oracle of Truth has spoken...8)


THERE WILL BE NO COUP IN AMERICA!


League_Girl
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 4 Feb 2010
Gender: Female
Posts: 25,488
Location: Pacific Northwest

30 Oct 2020, 12:53 am

I have heard what has been going on in Poland and it sounds like a horrible country to be in if you are LGBT. Yikes. 8O


_________________
Son: Diagnosed w/anxiety and ADHD. Also academic delayed.

Daughter: NT, no diagnoses.


Bradleigh
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 25 May 2008
Age: 30
Gender: Male
Posts: 6,297
Location: Brisbane, Australia

30 Oct 2020, 1:02 am

This might be a bit of a tangent, taking it into something I am more familiar with, but a YouTube channel I watch called Curio recently released a series of videos on the Witcher franchise, not just the series but a lot of focus on the games and especially on the original novel series, both of the later being Polish. The videos made a lot of points of how Poland has been going a certain way now, but The Witcher series was one that leaned very heavily into themes the women's right to choose, and acceptance of diversity. And that it is sad that the country of origin of this series was becoming what it is.

Sorry if the only thing I can relate is with a fantasy series from there.


_________________
Through dream I travel, at lantern's call
To consume the flames of a kingdom's fall


magz
Forum Moderator
Forum Moderator

User avatar

Joined: 1 Jun 2017
Age: 35
Gender: Female
Posts: 8,610
Location: Poland

30 Oct 2020, 1:56 am

Polish culture is complex when it comes to ideologies.
Strong catholicism is accompanied with just-as-strong anticlericalism and long tradition of tolerance (being "they're heretics and sinners but it's neither my nor the state's business to do anything about it").
Current government appeals only to some fraction of the society, allegedly the new legislation had 13% support and 59% opposition in general population. But the group that took the power seems not to care as long as there is no elligible way of stripping them from their power :(


_________________
Let's not confuse being normal with being mentally healthy.


Bradleigh
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 25 May 2008
Age: 30
Gender: Male
Posts: 6,297
Location: Brisbane, Australia

30 Oct 2020, 2:17 am

Well, I hope that that there will be a strong reinvigoration against the political party, which I have heard is fascist, and that in the long run good will come of it. Keep on rebelling, don't let people get complacent over the rights of marginalized groups being stripped away. Hopefully the 59% opposition can be a rallying call that the Polish people are more.


_________________
Through dream I travel, at lantern's call
To consume the flames of a kingdom's fall


magz
Forum Moderator
Forum Moderator

User avatar

Joined: 1 Jun 2017
Age: 35
Gender: Female
Posts: 8,610
Location: Poland

30 Oct 2020, 2:23 am

They certainly don't identify as fascist.
The most common opinion in my social circles is, they are a Catholic-clerical version of the communist party from the previous century. And corrupt.


_________________
Let's not confuse being normal with being mentally healthy.


auntblabby
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Feb 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 98,672
Location: the island of defective toy santas

30 Oct 2020, 2:51 am

there is no place like home, but sometimes a change of venue is required, i'm sorry if it has come to that for you.



blazingstar
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 19 Nov 2017
Age: 67
Gender: Female
Posts: 4,460

30 Oct 2020, 4:37 am

A Catholic/clerical version of the communist party seems a contradiction in terms. No wonder they are unpopular with so many Poles. This kind of ostracism always frightens me. I never know who is next on the list. (This is a childhood fear; my parents were friends with people who still had numbers tattooed on their arms from WWII.)

May grace be with you and your family.


_________________
paralysis by over-analysis


magz
Forum Moderator
Forum Moderator

User avatar

Joined: 1 Jun 2017
Age: 35
Gender: Female
Posts: 8,610
Location: Poland

30 Oct 2020, 10:10 am

Image
I didn't go to protests because of the pandemics.
I bought a box of colorful chalk and went drawing rainbows.
I didn't want to engage my children but my younger daughter wanted to go with me.
I ran out of chalk too soon.

I might not be super-woke but our current government has crossed a boundary that I find fundamental: dehumanisation.
Calling living human beings "disease" and "ideology" for this one percent point to win an election.
I've been dehumanized on ideological basis. I've been living in lies, fear and confusion of conditional acceptance. I've been living pretending to be someone I'm not.
I don't want anyone to experience it.

I just drew rainbows and wrote "you're loved". My daughter, when I explained her the best I could what I mean, drew rainbow-colored two men holding hands... I don't want her to get engaged in things that divide people in such an early age but that's what she understood: there's no reason to hate someone because of who they fall in love with.


_________________
Let's not confuse being normal with being mentally healthy.