Is there a deep state in America?

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From what I've seen different governmental corporate institutions DO work to undermine eachother and effect the way our country is run. But is any of it nefarious or intended to usher in authoritarianism? Or is just checks and balances. Discuss.

Yes there is.

It is called Cheyenne Mountain Complex (popularly known as NORAD, although other institutions are also present).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheyenne_Mountain_Complex

The main facility is built under 2,000 feet of granite, which is very, very, very deep.

*I must not mention Stargate*
*I must not mention Stargate*
*I must not mention Stargate*

Can't remember the name of the character, but John De Lancie (Q from Star Trek) played a government type that was basically the definition of Deep State.

I think there's a 1% and the rest of the world is like an ant farm to them.

One of my favorite sci-fi shows of all time.




I should not mention....Mazinger!

Why do you not ask our xeno-reptilian overlords?

So the idea that bureaucracies look after their own flourishing - not surprising. The idea that they might be profiteering from their positions and enjoying that profiteering, even guiding public policy in line with it? Not far fetched either but... lets say difficult to discuss much without specifics.

The governmental watchdog , that records all info on the net and otherwise , is called Eschelon . Real deal
Not the health equipment . Found it ina old Omni magazine article , I think . Anyhow went head long into researching . It seemed according to the article that it tracked and recorded all electronic communications for dissection. .. this included every countries communication . After searching on several meta crawlers , back in the day that they existed for anyone on the net . Found this Intelligence operation . In a German newspaper called Der Spiegel a longish article about this communication interception Org. And other places in language I could not speak .
This spoooked me a lot .. private communications are anything but private . Soon there after all reference to this Eschelon org / division of the US government . Disappeared from the net . Within the next year after it seemed all the metacrawlers available to the US public disappeared .. you could use search engines from every countries internet search engines all at once . All you had to to do was click the box next to the search engine and in would open results in separate pages for you to sift through . Nowadays you can’t get any results other then the once’s. They wish you to see. , then judge you based on your picks from them . Marketing analytics. Sad the day the internet lost it neutrality

They have a door marked Stargate Command, it's a broom closet.

The short answer is yes. It's called the national security state and since 9-11 it's powers, lack of accountability and budget have all increased.

Yes, the deep state can be found on a flat Earth planning a Mars landing hoax...

“What is ?” Homeland security .. this is another piece of crazy insanity. We inherited from the Great Britain.

Why would there need to be a deep state?

Politics in the US is governed by money. Mega-rich individuals and corporations bankroll politicians and expect generous favours in return. So the political system favours the already privaledged, thus making them more privaledged, and better placed to further corrupt political decision-making. And so it goes on. Everything gets more top heavy and exploitative and the ordinary man has less and less say.

As both main parties are right of centre, the only thing that varies (slightly) is the extent of the wealth extraction and the degree of damage limitation through social policies.

I find the whole debate about public healthcare very revealing. All this nonsense about it being one small step away from communism is complete garbage. Having profit as the main motivating force in healthcare creates all sorts of dangerous counter-incentives. The truth of the matter is, profits are at stake. That's all the big fuss is really about, they wouldn't be able to rip you off so well any more, so the very idea is EVIL COMMUNISM and must be stopped. That shows you who Government really care about the most.

I don't think there's any need for a deeper, more complex conspiracy. It's all about the cash. If you want to know who is really in charge, follow the money. In some instances there's also a side helping of religious control-freakery, but money is the dominant force.