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From the Older Pages...




HAhahahahahahaha

i AM Still WalKinG By YouR

Side Guess What i AM GOD

YES GOD SORRY IF YOU ARE

TOO ASHAMED

TO ADMIT

YOU

ARE GOD TOO

Perhaps One Day

You Will Be Real God too

Or at Least See Past Your
Ignorance my FRiEnD...

B I N G O

Conclusion of the Story...
Always Starting Never Ending Now

Really Nothing to Add

Naked Complete Whole

Enough Now And True i do Nude

Art Not Appropriate for this Avenue

Yet if there is One thing for Sure i ain't
Afraid to be Totally Male And Free... Yawn...

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ALL MALE THROUGH AND THROUGH IN THAT ART

THeRE
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many

Happy

Female

Customers
for ALL my Art

Thousands Upon
Thousands more
to Count than the

Night

And

Day Stars

Have A Nice Day

-me too

-God

Now Let's See if You

Can And Will Trump Who i am...

Hehe, You Are Surely Welcome to try...

i Take FuLL And Total Responsibility for Being God Nature Living Now...

if only More Humans Will See God Nature in All Things Life They Just Might too...

i Dam Sure Would

Have Fit A Whole

Picture of me

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Dammed Humanity Community

Standards And Culture Overall Still Now
Canceling Human God Nature Naked Whole...


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Don't Be A Fool
of Spoon-Fed
Stories From

Birth...

Just A Suggestion...

Make Your LifE REAL STORY More EPiC

Than Mine... i Double Dog God Dare You... HeHe...

TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR OWN GOD NATURE BREATHING WITHIN...

IF

YA

WANNA...

Or Continue
to Feed Off of
Baby Jars of Spoon-Fed

Lies As So Many People Sadly Do...

-me

And All My Opinion That i AM Entitled to...
As You Are Yours No Matter How Small Life

May End up
Being for You...

Do More

Than me if
You Can And Will...

HAha It's All In How
A Woman And More Returns a Smile...

The Measure of Any Real Man on Earth Including (Love) God...

Or Shall Another Beautiful Young Woman Deliver A Rose to me on the Dance Floor
With Empty Pockets And Nothing More Than Spiraling Moves of God on Earth Now...

Or Another Beautiful Young Woman Kiss me on the Ear Out of Respect For Who i Am Free...

Obviously Seeing Who i Fully
Am Dancing At Least Free...

In Short AND LONG

My Life is Great!

AS THE RECORDS
AND EVIDENCE NOW
CLEARLY SHOW FOR REAL

i Have no Idea NOW if you
know How to be a REAL Man or not...

Not my Concern Never my Concern ONLY YOURS...

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01 Sep 2021, 3:32 pm

aghogday wrote:
^6^
From the Older Pages...




HAhahahahahahaha

i AM Still WalKinG By YouR

Side Guess What i AM GOD

YES GOD SORRY IF YOU ARE

TOO ASHAMED

TO ADMIT

YOU

ARE GOD TOO

Perhaps One Day

You Will Be Real God too

Or at Least See Past Your
Ignorance my FRiEnD...

B I N G O

Conclusion of the Story...
Always Starting Never Ending Now

Really Nothing to Add

Naked Complete Whole

Enough Now And True i do Nude

Art Not Appropriate for this Avenue

Yet if there is One thing for Sure i ain't
Afraid to be Totally Male And Free... Yawn...

i Do it on FaceBook PG With Stars too Yes NO FEAR BABY...

ALL MALE THROUGH AND THROUGH IN THAT ART

THeRE
Are
many

many

Happy

Female

Customers
for ALL my Art

Thousands Upon
Thousands more
to Count than the

Night

And

Day Stars

Have A Nice Day

-me too

-God

Now Let's See if You

Can And Will Trump Who i am...

Hehe, You Are Surely Welcome to try...

i Take FuLL And Total Responsibility for Being God Nature Living Now...

if only More Humans Will See God Nature in All Things Life They Just Might too...

i Dam Sure Would

Have Fit A Whole

Picture of me

Here Yet Yeah

Dammed Humanity Community

Standards And Culture Overall Still Now
Canceling Human God Nature Naked Whole...


PS:

Don't Be A Fool
of Spoon-Fed
Stories From

Birth...

Just A Suggestion...

Make Your LifE REAL STORY More EPiC

Than Mine... i Double Dog God Dare You... HeHe...

TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR OWN GOD NATURE BREATHING WITHIN...

IF

YA

WANNA...

Or Continue
to Feed Off of
Baby Jars of Spoon-Fed

Lies As So Many People Sadly Do...

-me

And All My Opinion That i AM Entitled to...
As You Are Yours No Matter How Small Life

May End up
Being for You...

Do More

Than me if
You Can And Will...

HAha It's All In How
A Woman And More Returns a Smile...

The Measure of Any Real Man on Earth Including (Love) God...

Or Shall Another Beautiful Young Woman Deliver A Rose to me on the Dance Floor
With Empty Pockets And Nothing More Than Spiraling Moves of God on Earth Now...

Or Another Beautiful Young Woman Kiss me on the Ear Out of Respect For Who i Am Free...

Obviously Seeing Who i Fully
Am Dancing At Least Free...

In Short AND LONG

My Life is Great!

AS THE RECORDS
AND EVIDENCE NOW
CLEARLY SHOW FOR REAL

i Have no Idea NOW if you
know How to be a REAL Man or not...

Not my Concern Never my Concern ONLY YOURS...

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i Write A 'Book Of

ELi' NeW YeT SaME

And Greater Now

No Need to Guess

i Am Only Spreading

A MeSSaGE of JeSuS

G O O D N E W S

THiS ReaL GoSPeL

i Am God Nature
And So Are You

This Is No
Monarchy

This is No
Fascism THis
Is No Militant

Religion Selfish
And All Alone

This News

Is

Nothing

NeW iN Fact Spread Thru Every
Major Religion in Mystical Tradition

THiS TrutH iS ETeRNaLLY NoW iN ALL iN ALL ALL ToGeTHeR

DarK Thru LiGHT TWiLiGHT ETeRNaLLY NoW AGaiN Breathing

Wind

i AM Free...

Restating Truths

From The Beginning

iN LiGHT AGAiN Never
Ending Always STaRTinG
Never Finishing Out of DarK;
Yes my Responsibility Still Fulfilling And Of Course 'Ladies

LoVE THiS'; They Always Have Been And Still Are NoW A Sage's

Best

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07 Feb 2022, 3:49 pm

God is eternal may actually be plausible.

If this video is accurate then what could make it plausible is that God's natural existence is at the speed of light and he is able to project himself at slower then light speed when he desires. So, maybe at light speed God is timeless and massless thereby making him eternal.

Whether I'm right or wrong it is so freaking cool to think about i.e. speed of light, photons, etc. Either way, physics and quantum physics is fascinating.



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09 Feb 2022, 12:44 am

cubedemon6073 wrote:
God is eternal may actually be plausible.

If this video is accurate then what could make it plausible is that God's natural existence is at the speed of light and he is able to project himself at slower then light speed when he desires. So, maybe at light speed God is timeless and massless thereby making him eternal.

Whether I'm right or wrong it is so freaking cool to think about i.e. speed of light, photons, etc. Either way, physics and quantum physics is fascinating.




SMiLes, Not Sure if You Are Relating An Eternal
God With the 'Alan Watts Video' Preceding This
Where He Relates A Christianity That is Based on

Being One With God Of All Nature,

Rather Than Worshipping

Any Man Above Another

Man And Or Woman As Such;

Or A Monarchy; or Dictatorship

Of God That Surely Relates the Power
Struggles of Humanity Though Our HiStories Now;

Yet It's True, All is Energy At Core Sub-Atomic; Yes,
Particles Swirling too Vibrations and Frequencies Now

Always At Play
As Waves Come
And Go Ocean Water Whole;

Yet of Course For All Practical Intents
And Purposes, Unlimited Co-Created
Metaphors Will Relate the 'Interbeing' of All That is

For What i Understand For Sure IS, i Touch/Live Levels of Human
"Interbeing" in my Conscious Reality So Blissful and New in Colors Every

Day That i

Never imagined

Was Possible in Decades
Before in my Life; Yes, This Much

i Am Sure of Yes, This "Interbeing" Of All
That is We aRe A Part of So Far At Least Now

iN my Case, Perceiving Reality, Feeling Reality,
Sensing Reality Will/Does Become More Eternally Now
A Bliss to

Enjoy
Always
Now as for
me at Least i've
Developed Real 'Soul Hacks' that
Work Consistently Now for 101 Months

As A Steady
Practice of
Life NoW in Autotelic Flow;
And Sure, It's Still Possible for
me to Face Stressful Events Hehe,
Like Buying A New Car and the Such

As That Yet With A Quick Autotelic Moving
Meditating Free Dance in Contemplating Flow

Back to
Heaven

i Go/Come Sure

NoW AS HeLL And 'Those
Other Places Go Away Now;
Anyway, i 'See' God/Nature As My Experience
of God/Nature Continues to Improve With 'NeW Eyesight' Now.



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26 Mar 2022, 11:41 pm

How does God and Jesus Christ truthfully love a cheerful giver if there is a hell? Doesn't the idea of hell involve a form of compulsion and threat if I don't give to Jesus and/or God what he wants, follow what he wants and refrain from what he wants?

AngelRho, I have certain doubts and misgivings whether you see them as logical or not. If I have doubts and I don't believe I will burn in hell. If this isn't force and compulsion I don't know what is. So, how is God love?



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26 Mar 2022, 11:45 pm

there are some who say it is not god, per se, who puts us in hell, but we ourselves.



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27 Mar 2022, 12:15 am

auntblabby wrote:
there are some who say it is not god, per se, who puts us in hell, but we ourselves.


Yet, who decides what the parameters of everything is including consequences?

Do we put ourselves in hell because we're suffering the consequences or does God put us in hell because he is the decision maker of what the consequences are of anything you do or don't do?

Anyway, the point is supposedly God loves a cheerful giver but how is that true if we're compelled to do or not do certain things in fear of God's judgement, hell and the lake of fire?

A cheerful giver can't exist with compulsion yet isn't hell a form of compulsion?

Don't those who choose God not out of being a cheerful giver but out of fear of his judgement and isn't fear a form of compulsion?



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27 Mar 2022, 1:26 am

whether or not we mere mortals choose god, god chooses us as his creation. we are god's way of god getting to know himself better. he sent us spirits down into materiality/earth school in order to learn so that he might learn. and just like any student that screws up, we now and then get the dunce cap in the corner deal but in purgatory where we are forced to confront our mistakes and own them, and learn from them. we are supposed to purge ourselves of our imperfections. we start out with no free will at all, stumbling from one situation/lifetime to the next. but gradually as our spirit learns, we eventually get the critical mass of wisdom necessary to intelligently choose our actions ahead of time, and we get higher quality lifetimes. we choose our incarnations in an elevated realm where we have access to much more information, which still is no guarantee that we will make wise use of said info.



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27 Mar 2022, 6:56 am

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How does God and Jesus Christ truthfully love a cheerful giver if there is a hell? Doesn't the idea of hell involve a form of compulsion and threat if I don't give to Jesus and/or God what he wants, follow what he wants and refrain from what he wants?

AngelRho, I have certain doubts and misgivings whether you see them as logical or not. If I have doubts and I don't believe I will burn in hell. If this isn't force and compulsion I don't know what is. So, how is God love?

Short answer: I just go by what the gospels say regarding salvation—the acceptance of God’s gift of grace through the atoning work of Jesus Christ as sufficient for being saved. Start with that and don’t overthink the rest.

Long answer: How is something like, for example, hell force/compulsion when you can choose to reject God’s grace? It’s all so Matrix: Red pill, blue pill. If that’s all you get, how is that really a choice? Why not just NOT take any pill? But in the Matrix universe, we all know that the choices have already been made. So the question of whether we are really free or if free will is an illusion is irrelevant.

Real life works like that. It doesn’t matter IF you can choose God’s grace or not. Free or not, you end up choosing grace and eternal life or an eternity separated from God. The existence of hell as a place of eternal separation cannot compel someone to accept God if he doesn’t want to or is otherwise not inclined to choose God.

A hateful God would eliminate the need for hell by compelling all people to love Him (Biblical sense of love referring to action rather than emotion) and remain in His presence for all time regardless of whether they want to or not. That means you have people in heaven who want to be there, but also people who do NOT want to be there. What would heaven be like for them? Would it not just be another hell? If miserable people are just going to be miserable in heaven, why condemn them to all eternity with access to benefits they don’t even want? It’s more merciful to send those souls away where they won’t be bothered by the good things enjoyed by the faithful.

And, really, that’s all hell is. It’s not some burning, smoke-filled pit where you are tortured by demons. I prefer to think of it more like Tartarus, where the torment is more one of your own creation. Let me be clear: I don’t mean that in strictly literal terms. I don’t think hell is a place where you have to roll a stone up a mountain or you get chained to a wheel. What I mean is that I think descriptions of hell in the Bible refer to what hell is LIKE. The Bible doesn’t say much about the NATURE of hell, just that it’s a dark place of torment and you really don’t want to end up there. That leads me to think that the exact nature of hell is personal. What defines hell depends on what you bring with you. Perhaps that means hell is more about the choices you DIDN’T make, whereas heaven is the opposite.

I know you like carefully constructed logical arguments, and my meanderings on what hell is are anything but logical. Nobody knows exactly what heaven/hell are other than you know God’s presence in heaven and not in hell.

And while you aren’t asking about what heaven/hell are like or their true nature, there is a point to mentioning them. You ask basically how a loving God would send someone to hell, but I think a more appropriate question is why do people choose to go to hell in the first place? And that question doesn’t really cover the real problem, because we KNOW why people choose hell: They hate God. And that’s the real question, isn’t it? Why do people hate God? You can answer that question all kind of different ways.

Your question “how is God love?” can be answered the same way as “why do people hate God?”

Now, since you like simple logic, let’s go with this:

1. God is a loving God who keeps those who love Him with Him in heaven for eternity.
2. A man feels God is a hateful tyrant and rejects God’s grace.
3. Therefore, God does not condemn that man to an eternity with Him.

The idea of a hateful God suggests that God is waiting for us to fail or setting us up for failure and is active in dumping us all into the flames of Gehenna. I get this image of a god grinning and laughing as people scream and burn. Is that the image of a loving God? No. But neither is the image of a vengeful god rounding up those who hate him to serve in heaven as unwilling slaves, cracking his whip when dead spirits don’t smile or bow down in worship at the right time. Or forced to praise that god when he doesn’t think that god deserves praise at all. No loving god in any terms we understand love will take pleasure in compelling unbelievers to exist in a state of forced slavery.

Getting back to your earlier question of compulsion by the threat of hell, the problem is that the mere threat of hell alone doesn’t compel anyone to do anything. My formative years were the 1980’s, and back then it was still customary to hear fire and brimstone preaching which served the purpose of trying to scare the hell out of congregants. It’s long been an effective approach to winning converts. But it has largely fallen out of fashion with people being better educated and rejecting this idea of “turn before you burn” in favor of a more reasoned approach. You see, the problem has always been that manipulation and coercion don’t result in authentic expressions of faith. Rather than seeking the reward of heaven, you’re only raised to avoid the punishment of hell. Once you start to realize that manipulative, coercive forms of teaching through fear were what drove you to making a decision for Christ, you start to wonder if your decision really was an authentic one. I certainly experienced those doubts. But at the end of the day regardless of whether I felt coerced into believing something I didn’t want, I STILL want to love God and follow the teachings of Christ. At any time I could have said “screw this.” I could have said “if that preacher is right and it’s either be a slave to God or face hellfire and doom, then I say BURN.”

I’m not afraid of hell. There’s no reason I should be. So if I’m not afraid of hell and have no reason to be afraid of it, how am I compelled by it?

The unbeliever isn’t afraid of hell, either. Why? Because if he were, the logical thing to do would be to ask for God’s grace and receive it. If the unbeliever isn’t afraid of hell, he isn’t compelled to put his faith in Christ.

If you make the case that God isn’t loving because He compels us with the threat of hell, how do you explain that the threat of hell doesn’t really seem to be all that compelling?



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27 Mar 2022, 9:42 am



SMiLes, i'll Shorten Up An 'Answer'
Even More; 'God' Is Really 'Love'

And Separation From

Love is Surely

Not

Heaven,

in my Bible at Least;
And Yes, Truly the Metaphor
of Hell; i Don't Disagree with
Angelrho's Description Here in Essence

at Least...

i Just Use the Metaphor of 'LoVE' iN Essence Instead
of 'God' NoW As That Tends to Set All "Religion" Free

As By Very Definition the Traditions of Religion Divides, Separates, And Excludes;
Yes, Same as Culture, Politics, And Even the Idol Clothes of Philosophy So True

One May Find
The Essence
of Love to
Be True iNHaLinG
Peace Exhaling LoVE iN JoY oF LiGHT
Now Giving Sharing Caring Healing All
of Existence With Least Harm in a Verb

of 'Love'

That is
'God' Like
Those Who Choose
Other Clothes (Symbols)
to House Experiences of Love and
Heaven and Less Yet the Essence
Remains for those Who LiVE iN A HoME oF LiGHT...

Famous Catholic YouTube Internet PR Dude, Bishop Robert Barron
Describes Hell As A Place We Choose Away From the Gift of God (Love)
Almost Identically As AngelRho Is Describing Here; On the Other Hand,
the More Literal, Concrete, Black and White Mind of the Head Priest of the

Catholic Church

i Visit Still Utters

Words of Spreading

Oil on A Baby So the

So Called 'Literal Devil' Won't
Get A Grasp on the Child with
No Intellectual Understanding of the

Experience

'Thank God'

Yet And He still
Talks About 'A God'
Who Takes Care of 'His'
People Yet Not 'Those' People

And Also Suggests Somedays

That Love is Not A Feeling Until
He is Corrected by Little Children in the Audience...

Not Everyone

is Cut out of 'Spirit';

Some Are Just Cut Out
of Intellect and Miss the Love
Boat Almost Entirely Having Really

No Idea They aRe Already 'Separated' on EartH NoW

And i am Surely Not One Who Will Profess "Love" (GoD) Is Fair

As You Can And Will Do The Best Job Like "Job" of Doing What Culture
Says is So-Called Right; Dotting All Your i's And Crossing All Your t's

And Get
Thrown

Off the

'God' (Love)
Boat too; One Must
Develop Anchors For
Safety Sure Yet Without
Sails for the SPiRiT of the 'Love Wind'

You Don't Really Ever Get to "Heaven's
Place" or Even Come Close to "Saint Elmo's Fire" Yet

Like i Said Let's

Keep it Simple;

LiVE iN The Essence
of God (LoVE) BREaTHE This Way
Giving, Sharing, Caring, Healing

And Chances Are EVeNTuALLY 'You'
May Arrive to Eternal LoVE NoW WiTHiN to Give...

Yet Without
Giving Free There
May Be No Receiving
And Even Science 'These Days'

Agrees with Old Biblical Text This Way Per

The More You Give the More You Get to Give as Receive As
Even One Altruistic Act With No Expect of Return will Generate
Even More Heaven of LoVE Within iN JoY oF LiGHT As Science Even Agrees Now...

Yawn,

It Works
Eternally
Now For
me and The
Record Book i Write
And Fully iLLuSTRaTE
Surely Shows How in Great Detail and Big Picture Ways...

At Least for those With Love (GoD) EYeS to See and Hear for Real As

Running From Shadows And Mythological Concrete Devils Ain't Gonna
Work When Play Slays Fear And Opens the Way for Peace to BRiNG ETernal (GoD) Love

to
Give...
Etc. Etc. Etc...

i Still Like to Look at
It This Way; This Comes
So Easy For Many Women
all Naturally As Greater Nurturing
Beings By Fortune of Birth While Again if You

Will Imagine A Bunch of Baby Boomer Age Dudes
At A Hardee's Breakfast Club Still Trying To Figure out What

Love is Finding

People to Write
About it in a Book
As They Still Just Don't

Have the Words to Describe
The Essence oF iT Poetically Enough Now

So What You Get Is A Mix and Match Script
of Ghost Author Poets From the Ages, and
Folks Without the Ability to Describe the
Essence Poetically, Worshipping those Words

oF Old, actually
Lifting Up the
Book as Idol
And Worshipping the Book...

Not Everyone is Cut out to Write A Bible
And Not Everyone is Cut out of "Love's SPiRiT;"

True, the 'Old Books' Do Still Provide Some Room For Improvement...



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27 Mar 2022, 6:01 pm

^^^To be clear, I do believe hell to be a literal place set aside for the unrepentant. I’m ok with teaching that hell can and should be avoided. If your concern is wanting to escape eternal destruction, that’s as good a motive as any to seek salvation. If anyone asks me what happens if you don’t believe, if it’s true that you’re going to hell, then absolutely, yes, I’ll be upfront that you will.

It just isn’t something I like to dwell on. Honestly, I don’t think the hell talk really is for the lost. I think it’s more for those who are already believers who, as such, should care enough about others they would want to see them saved. Understanding and emphasizing what happens to lost people ought to give believers the impetus to reach out and witness to them. Leading by judging and condemning someone to hell doesn’t really help convince them they should believe.

In terms of religion, I don’t consider myself religious in the strictest sense of the term. Religion is traditionally a means for man to reach up to God, usually by a set of rules and rituals designed to bring about a specific goal. Christianity is about God reaching down to man to reconcile sinners to Himself. I am blessed to be actively involved in worship ministry. I like meeting with fellow believers and like-minded people I consider my spiritual brothers and sisters. Do I feel a need for an organized religion? No. But organized meetings do serve a purpose and make some things within Christian life easier than they would be without any kind of support system.



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27 Mar 2022, 6:11 pm

I believe everything you do comes back to you, good or bad, heaven or hell, karma, throw something up in the air, and it comes back to you, gravity. As far as myself, I think I've been living in purgatory most of my life, neither heaven nor hell. Somewhere in between. It's all very "blasé" at times. A lot of it is out of our hands. Sometimes people have it really bad. Through no fault of their own. Of course, personal responsibility is a good thing.... I guess. I should practice it more.


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27 Mar 2022, 9:10 pm

CoolHandLuke wrote:
I believe everything you do comes back to you, good or bad, heaven or hell, karma, throw something up in the air, and it comes back to you, gravity. As far as myself, I think I've been living in purgatory most of my life, neither heaven nor hell. Somewhere in between. It's all very "blasé" at times. A lot of it is out of our hands. Sometimes people have it really bad. Through no fault of their own. Of course, personal responsibility is a good thing.... I guess. I should practice it more.


I guess I have issues with the idea of Karma as well. If Karma is so True as claimed then why are there so many people in the world who can seem to get away with doing bad things no matter what and are able to simply skirt around them. Look at Enron and look at Donald Trump as anecdotal examples.

Where is the Karma for all of those who treated me and others like crap when I went to elementary, middle and high school? Unless they're putting on a front they seem to be leading successful lives?

Where is Karma for the Zodiac killer?

And, where is Karma for female child molesters? Why do they get lesser sentences than men?



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"Now as a man is like this or like that,
according as he acts and according as he behaves, so will he be;
a man of good acts will become good, a man of bad acts, bad;
he becomes pure by pure deeds, bad by bad deeds;

And here they say that a person consists of desires,
and as is his desire, so is his will;
and as is his will, so is his deed;
and whatever deed he does, that he will reap.

— Brihadaranyaka Upanishad, 7th century BCE[18][19]"

"Karma" Applies to What You Do
Not What Others Do As That Is

Well Beyond Our Control; On the
Other Hand, Karma Isn't Fair; In Other

Words Again, if Am Doing Everything "Morally"
Correct, According to "Culture" That Doesn't Give
me a Free Ticket to Heaven Within On Earth For Real;

For Instance, When i Worked For the Federal Government
For A Quarter of A Century, it didn't Matter How Good my Intentions
Were For Providing Economic Security For my Wife; There is Also the

Social Part of that
That Science Even
Shows Gets Drained
Away From A Life Spent
in Mechanical Cognition Activities,
Like Information Technology and Financial
Management That i Did Increasingly All the Way
Through my Career, until i Ended up Stuck Behind
A Screen, Most Hours of the Day, A Cog in A Machine

As Slowly my Social-Empathic-Artistic-Spiritual Intelligences

Withered Away Like A Vine No Longer Producing Any Fruit of Love,

Not Even at Home;

it Became Increasingly

Hard to Feel the Warmth of Love;

i Became Increasingly Oblivious to
What it Means to even be Human And

Yes my "AQ Score" that Specifically Measures

Systemizing Versus Social Empathic Cognition

Went Way Out of Balance up to 45, And i Ended up
on the 'Wrong Planet' With A Diagnosis of Autism;
More Specifically, Sub-Clinically Assessed With Asperger's

Syndrome as Obviously You (me) Don't Get through Work 33 Years,
3 Degrees, A Beautiful Wife, A Home, And A Nice Car, If You Never

Could Function in Society At all; On the Other Hand, You May Have a Propensity
to get Lost in A Systemizing Mechanical Cognition Way of Do; Yes, Karma And

(Yep, Diagnosed by 4 Professionals; And My Sister as Well In Her 50's After me
At Age 47 then)

Lose the Warm
and Fuzzy

Connections
of Life That Drive

Us to Actually Want
to Reciprocate Social Communication;

It's Safe to Say, i Really Didn't Have Many
FRiEnDS then; It's Safe to Say, i Wasn't really
Emotionally Present for my Wife; Hardly Saying

A Word to Her or Even me in Introspection; Yes, It's
Safe to Say, We Become What We Do in Terms of Karma

And Personal Responsibility; And It's Also Safe to Say that

We Are only Human; When We Do What A Machine Does and Become

Less of Humanity For What it Means to Be Human; A Social Animal

Smiling With Other Social Animals in Collaborating, Cooperating, With

Compassion

For All of
Existence
Spelling Love;

Yes, For What Spells Love

For Those Who Find A Suitable
Environment to Do that And Actually
Do A Life of Kindness as A Practice of Life

Close to What Buddhism Practices Indeed From
India Where the Term Karma Originates, Where i Just

Came From From A Nice Young College Student Woman's

Online Home in India And She Related me to 'The Sky' Saying if

the Sky Had a Personality It Would Be like me, Generous And Kind;

Now Granted, Becoming A Public Dancer, Fearless, Solo and Free
As A Human Bird With Wings on Terrestrial Land Attracted A Lot

(Through All 16,388 Miles Now of Public Dance in 103 Months of Doing
that Along With 10.3 MiLLioN Words of Free Verse Long Form Poetry
That is Simply An Anthology of Poetic Responses to Folks Around the

Human Globe Moving, Connecting, And Co-Creating)

of Young Women to me
as the Record Clearly
Shows Even on this
Page on the Wrong
Planet Ranging from
Public Kisses on the Dance
Floor to Even a Little Angel Looking
Woman Bringing A Pink Rose to me on the Dance Floor;

Yet Rarely, Can i Even Imagine A Compliment Like Someone
Suggesting You Are Like the Blue Sky Expansive Open And Giving

Even Shining
Sun on The

Good and The
Bad of Life Same

As We Humans Interpret

Existence Now; Here's What We
Can And Will Do; Do Better; The Best
We Can And Will; Make Life More of an Art of
Kindness, Collaboration, Cooperation, And Compassion

Than A Withering

Weed in the Desert
That is Yet to Bloom

As A Wild Flower Now;

i Don't Have to Even 'Think'
Now to Be Assessed as the Blue Sky
Expansive and Open Generous and
Kind; Above all, ALL i Have to Do is Love And Love Even

More; Every Part of Life Dark thru LiGHT As i Naturally
Become Love, By Doing More Love Now For What Love Spells For Real...

True Love is More
Than An Idol Word;

Love is Kindness, Generosity
Giving, Sharing, Caring, Healing
All the Way Across the Life Span

For Those of Us who LiVE iN An Environment

That Even Allows that Potential to Arise to Real...

i've Been Assessed As the Weakest, Strangest, Ugliest Person in the World...

i've Been Assessed AS the Strongest, Coolest, Most Beautiful Soul In the World;

Am i the Same Person Now

Than Then; No, Environment
And Biology Counts; What Makes

The Difference is What i Did Next; Yes,
Karma And All the Ingredients of Life That Make Do Even Possible Now...

SMiLes, i Am a Nude Artist; That Doesn't Stop My Muslim Female Friends;
Some of them, From Reciprocating Every Communication; The Power Of Love

May and Does

'Trump'

Culture, Religion,
And Even the Philosophy

Of Others As Long as it is
Fearless, True, And Never Gives Up...

And Words Are Not Enough; Although 'Alan Watts'
As An Intellectual Was Stellar in All the Information He

Brought; He never managed the Within Part of Him As A
Smoker and Alcoholic That Shortened His Life Span on Earth;

(If He Did Nude Art, He Might Have Learned to Love And Accept ALL of Him;
10.3 MiLLioN Words of Free Verse Poetry And 16,388 Miles of Public Dance

Probably Would Have Grounded
Him Better Naturally in Bliss
And Nirvana Then for Real too)

It's Much Easier to Do the

Talk Than Actually Do the Do;

As the Assessed Most Miserable Person (me) Then
at 47, in the World, at Least for What 'He' Ever Encountered
in Life as an Air Force Psychiatrist in the Reserves As A Major
Who Assessed Combat Veterans With Combat Fatigue From the
Middle East; He Eventually Saw How i Healed myself; Regulating Emotions,
Integrating Senses, All Naturally, With Free Song of Poetry and Dance Done All

Intuitively Deep From
Within; Without Any Drugs
to Make That Change; He Quit
His Practice And Said His Patient (me)

Inspired Him to Teach Movement Therapy
in A Hospital in South Florida; As 'They' Say

the Patient

May Become
The Doctor if

They Find A Way
to Heal the Within Part
That Comes with No Manual...

And Is Healed By No Pill on the 'Market' Now...

Same Old Eastern Philosophies That have Worked Forever NOW

LiVE A LiFE of Balance Inhaling Peace ExhalinG LoVE iN JoY oF LiGHT
Giving, Sharing, Caring, Healing All With Least Harm Now And the Next
Day Now Someone

May Call

You The Sky

If the Sky Had a
Personality Like Yours...

Or a Beautiful Young Woman
May Bring You A Pink Rose on the Dance
Floor When You are Close to 60; And Another
Young Woman Will Kiss You on On the Cheek out of Pure

Respect

For what
She Sees as
'Hero' and 'Living
Legend' As Simply
A Bird With Wings
on Terrestrial Earth... Free...

(And You (me) May Even Maintain A Marriage
of 32 Years to A Woman Who Retains Most All
Her Teenage Beauty, Head to Toe at 19 at 52; Just Like A
Real
Disney World Fairy Tale Now on the Big Screen At Home)

It's True, What Heaven Spells, LoVE oN Earth Eternally Now;

Took A lot of Positive Karma in Do to Get Here Now And That
Must Never End in Art of Practice to Staycation Here Now For Real;

Lots of Blood, Sweat, And Tears; Yet i Still Arrive And 'Make the Grade'

Now; Just Another
"A Day in the Life"

Turning Folks on Who
Have The Ability to See
"Mr. Blue Skies" Now, Hehe...

Now All i Have to Do is Choose
"The Beatles" or the "Fifth Beatle"
"Jeff Lynn" From The Great Band "Elo"

For A Theme Song For This As All Comes
Naturally Higher in Autotelic Flow in Karma of This Do...

And What Does (At the End of the Song "A Day in The Life" by
the "Beatles") An Echoing Key of "E" on the Piano Do At the End

Of A Song; It Brings Us into the Present; Similarly As When "Alan Watts"

Used to Resound A Gong Sound For A Moment in His Instructional Videos

Forever
Now How
You Come

In A Key
As Simple As 'E'
Where Everything All
Becomes Forever Now Within;

Obviously, (to me) You Have to Have
An Open Mind, Soul, SPiRiT And HeART

AND BODY

To Feel

the

Divine

"Frission;"

Again, Mileage Varies

Based on Model and Make of Being Human

For Whatever "A Day In the Life" Comes to Be Now...

For
What
Ever
Karma
Continues
to Birth in Do For How
We iNHaLE Exhale LiFE NeW NoW..:)

Christianity Provides Some Hints Like
Living a Life of Love in Luke 17:21's
Kingdom of God And Heaven Within;

Yet is Woefully Inadequate for Practices
That Actually Work Now Where Eastern
Philosophies And Religion That Are Less 'Ego' Driven And
Material Oriented Are Heads And Shoulders Above Within

For
Real
in a
Do That
Actually Works Now...

Yet to Be Clear my Way
is Still Substantially Different
Than Those Ways As Really Considering
We All Perceive the World Differently One Will

Naturally

in Terms
of Karma
of Do Expect
Now in Continuing Change
And All Colors New Making
What A Spectrum of Humanity is...

At Best What Heaven Spells for
the Individual Uniquely And New Now...

With Least Harm For Others, A Greatest Art Indeed to Achieve With 'Cognitive
Empathy' And Perhaps A Most Difficult Part as Others Are Definitely Different..:)


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28 Mar 2022, 12:36 pm

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I believe everything you do comes back to you, good or bad, heaven or hell, karma, throw something up in the air, and it comes back to you, gravity. As far as myself, I think I've been living in purgatory most of my life, neither heaven nor hell. Somewhere in between. It's all very "blasé" at times. A lot of it is out of our hands. Sometimes people have it really bad. Through no fault of their own. Of course, personal responsibility is a good thing.... I guess. I should practice it more.


I guess I have issues with the idea of Karma as well. If Karma is so True as claimed then why are there so many people in the world who can seem to get away with doing bad things no matter what and are able to simply skirt around them. Look at Enron and look at Donald Trump as anecdotal examples.

Where is the Karma for all of those who treated me and others like crap when I went to elementary, middle and high school? Unless they're putting on a front they seem to be leading successful lives?

Where is Karma for the Zodiac killer?

And, where is Karma for female child molesters? Why do they get lesser sentences than men?

I know you're not asking me, but I think the problem with karma is that while there are always consequences, those consequences aren't exactly visible. The Zodiac killer, for example, sharply limited his freedom in that ANY evidence he left or any return to the crime scene, regardless of how circumstantial, would have resulted in his arrest. He cannot simply "be himself" in this world, and that is something he has to live with for the remainder of his life. That's not something that comes easily to many of us. Plus...you kinda have to be unstable to want to take human life without any rational justification. I'm somewhat amused by the attention some Americans are getting by volunteering to fight in Ukraine--to hear some of them talk about it, you'd think they're going on some bear hunt (attempt at humor here). They're eager to kill PEOPLE. Nevermind whether Russians fighting in Ukraine deserve to be killed or not (I believe they are), I can't imagine anyone in this day and time looking forward to war for the chance to destroy another human being. I'd look at it as defending the innocent, not killing an enemy. It's just that killing the enemy is a consequence of war. It is not the AIM of war. But these attitudes make me seriously worry about these people, because if they are eager to volunteer for a chance to kill other people, what else is lurking beneath the surface? Getting back to the point of the Zodiac killer, that kind of instability makes it easier to push your own boundaries or commit lesser--but no less violent--crimes. It's highly unlikely ZK isn't already in prison for something else, has left the country, or has forced himself into a cloistered existence. He's already in prison in one sense or another, whether he's faced actual sentencing or not.

My opinion on female child molesters is going to be a controversial one. So let me qualify this first by saying that by no means does ANYTHING I say on the matter excuse it. But my opinion is inline with the feminist notion that men are the dominant sex and largely responsible for any oppression women experience. I think men being physically stronger and imposing means that if the status of women is to be elevated and protected, it's on us to do that. If other men proposition women, intimidate women, or otherwise seduce/manipulate women, then it is the proper role of men to protect their female SO's from demeaning and deceptive behavior. It is the proper role of men to guard their relationships with women. I don't mean that men should hover over women, isolate them, dictate who their friends can be, when they can go out, who they can see, etc. I simply mean that men should be alert. If another dude is creeping on your SO, chances are his advances are unwelcome, and that means you make an excuse for the two of you to leave and get away from the guy. What happens when you try to be a "nice guy" and let your SO "have a mind of her own" (I'm being context-specific here) is you create all this space in which another man has an opening to isolate and mistreat your SO...and consequently YOU. I know how easy it is for female abuse victims to go back to their abusers. I've seen it happen too many times. After my wife broke up with her bf, I invaded her space every chance I got. I gave her space and opportunity to heal without opening any doors or windows for her ex to come back. Later on, after we'd been married for a few short years, she would get annoyed with me because I would keep tabs on her any time other men were in the picture. Well...he kept giving you alcohol and tried to take advantage of you. He's not safe for you to be around. If you value our marriage, you'll have to understand that. She would ask "Do you think I'm that stupid? You think I'd just let that happen?" And I would tell her I think she's intelligent and capable, but knowing what some of these guys do I don't trust THEM to do the right thing.

Now, we take that a step further: I avoid situations in which I'd be alone with other women. It's not that I can't keep my hands to myself. But then you have the optics of the situation. How do I explain to anyone else what I was doing with a woman who isn't my wife? It's not like I haven't gotten away with sleeping with women who were already engaged to some other guy. So what makes me any more trustworthy at this point in my life than any other guy? And that's just it: I'm old enough and secure enough, mature enough to exercise the kind of self-discipline and control that avoids questionable situations. You can't say I ever put my hands on her because I've been visible the whole time. Seriously, I can't even go home without 6 other pairs of eyes seeing everything I do. Like it or not, women are dependent on men controlling themselves and doing the right thing.

Now let's go back and revisit the child molester thing. The working hypothesis is that men are the dominant sex and women are subject to our influence, right? Whether that's right or wrong, that's how it is. Men can dominate, intimidate, or unfairly influence/manipulate women, and a man's age is totally irrelevant. I repeat: whether it is moral to do so is not part of the question--the whole point is that we live in a world in which men dominate and oppress women. This is NOT about right versus wrong.

If this is true--and again, age DOES NOT MATTER--it follows that women, and I mean ANY woman, can be strongly attracted to any male who resembles an adult, even a young adult. I was a jr. high kid at one point in my life. I recall that often we'd talk about this hot teacher or that hot teacher, and there were always "public secrets" about teachers dating students. Bragging rights were involved. Students would actively pursue teachers if it ever got out that they'd allow it. And you also have to look at who some of these teachers are--usually very young, fresh out of college, sometimes within 3-5 years of some of these kids. Sure, it's disgusting. But it doesn't matter when the star quarterback is used to having his pick of the cheerleaders and the occasional 7th grader. So along comes this GIRL who doesn't look like she's much past 8th grade herself, but she's a teacher. And she sees this kid who could easily be a college freshman. He turns on the charm, she lets her guard down. Maybe she's blackmailed into it. Maybe his parents own half the town. Maybe his daddy is a police officer or a prominent lawyer, and if she doesn't do what he wants he'll run his mouth. Even if she never did anything, who's going to believe her?

You have to understand there are stories, ugly stories, that the general public will never hear. Another ugly fact is that this still frequently happens, more times than you can imagine, and it never makes the news. And those are just the ones who lose their teaching license and do prison time. What it all comes down to is whether parents chose to file charges. Parents NOW are much more hypersensitive to these kinds of things. MY boy would NEVER lay his hands on a teacher. No, SHE abused her position of power and authority. Doesn't matter if he bragged about it to his friends, doesn't matter if he planned the whole thing, SHE is the one who can't keep her hands to herself. If he was threatening her, how come she didn't call us and tell us what was happening? Why weren't the administrators involved?

But HER life gets ruined.

Now...let's get real here. Is that an excuse? No. Are there things you can do to avoid this kind of thing? Sure.

But the point is that these women don't wake up one morning and decide, "hey, let's become a child abuser!" The reality is much more complex. There's always more to the story. And if you start by understanding that women grow up in a world in which men dominate them, and they get used to navigating a world in which they are routinely abused, it's not terribly difficult to understand the roots of women as sex criminals.

They are much more vulnerable to it than men are.

I don't know if I believe that women get easier sentences than men, but it wouldn't surprise me, either. I think when you understand feminine vulnerability and the need to protect them from males regardless of age, I think it's important that women have a support system that is compassionate towards them when older boys give them a hard time. When a woman is caught, her life is ruined. She faces prison time, surrendering her credentials, loss of her livelihood, and further consequences of being labeled a sex offender. Men have options to work in fields that don't involve children, such as contracting and other professional labor. Women lack that luxury. Or when they decide to have children of their own, they risk visits by social workers or being restricted from even bringing their children to daycare, all because of something that happened with a high school kid who was taller than she was.

And while I don't disagree that women should face consequences, I think the nature of the crime is such that we have to approach this with compassion and understanding. This is not the kind of problem men have to deal with--men are more often the ones taking an assertive role. Men typically initiate these encounters. And yes, men are more often imposing and in control of the situation. That means that even if girls flirt with us or attempt something, it is easier for us to set and enforce boundaries. I also think because of that, men tend to come under more scrutiny. We live more under a microscope. That might not be fair, either, but again...it is what it is. Besides, also as I already mentioned, the only scandalous stuff you hear about is what makes the news, and I personally know of some male teachers who either ended up in prison or run out of town on the condition that parents declined to press charges. Because people EXPECT men to more often get involved with female students and because they also EXPECT men to be accountable and keep boundaries, and because there's a much greater risk of trauma to students when men abuse their positions of trust, I can't really say I blame society for being tougher on us than women.

And things just get ugly when men do these things. Women, not so much. The worst situation I heard about was a woman who'd gotten involved with a female student. Supposedly the relationship soured and word got out about what was going on. The teacher was arrested, released on bond, and subsequently fled the state. You won't typically hear about those kinds of things with women being involved, but it happens. They'll get slapped with the same tough sentences as anyone would get. But then again, if a woman gets caught in this kind of crime, where will she feel she can run? It's typically MEN who take the initiative to try to run away. So I think that because women are so often more cooperative with law enforcement and prosecutors, and because I think judges will tend to be more sympathetic to women's issues, they'll typically get more leniency than men will. TBH, I don't have a problem with that.