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22 Jan 2021, 5:39 pm

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Wow! A MSM outlet spreading disinformation! I am in shock!


Mind-numbing concept, right? 8O
I was using Irony. I meant the opposite. I have no trouble believing there is a lot, and I mean a lot, of fake news out there, on *either* side of the political divide.
This explanation is not directed at you, Vegman.

Here, have a chair.
Take the weight off your feet. :mrgreen:



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22 Jan 2021, 10:45 pm

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aghogday wrote:
Pepe wrote:
aghogday wrote:
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YeaH A Huuuuge Difference in Nuts
Is that CNN Has The Balls to Admit
A Mistake in the Presentation of News Coverage


Did the revelation come out before or after the inauguration of Pr Joe Biden?


It's A Practice of Good Journalism.

It What CNN Has always Done.

And of Course, There is Natural
Built-in Bias in Every Human Being;

Yet CNN Correct Mistakes When They
Happen And Fire Folks When Necessary too.

It Doesn't Take A Rocket Science to See Who
Is Honest And Who Is Not; Just A 'Fully Blooming Human Being'.

It Also Doesn't Take A Rocket

Scientist To Tell the

Difference

Between

A Devil

And An Angel,

Particularly, if They Have Worn Both
Occupations And Clothes; Hmm.. HeHe.. Just Hmm..;)


But, did the revelation come out before or after the inauguration of Pr Joe Biden?



The Op Make That Abundantly Clear that You've Already Quoted...

Why You Would Ask About What You've Already Read, i have no idea;

Suggest You Read it Again, to Be more Fully informed...


I was making a point. ;)


That Was Already Made

Okay....


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23 Jan 2021, 3:01 pm

I hear lots of complaining about CNN. Hopefully those same people don't watch Fox News, which claimed there was validity to Donald's election fraud claims. Heck, the anchors on that station don't even make an effort to look like they know what they're talking about, with Tucker Carlson looking especially clueless all the time. How anyone believes what anyone on that station says about anything is beyond me. :roll:



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23 Jan 2021, 6:40 pm

Yep, There Are Those Who
Are Easily Duped And
Those Who Are Not; Those
Conditions continue Both Ways...

Ain't Part of my Condition Now
To Be Duped By The Faux
News Fed From the Pulpit
Since Childhood And Same
Characters on Fox News On TV Now;

Just Different
Actors Wearing
Suits Without Robes...

Yet it's the Human Condition...
Spoon-Fed A Steady Diet of Whatever
CuLTuRE Decides to Feed Us; Including
Religion, Politics, School, Work, And Everything on TV;

Particularly the
Commercials

To Buy All

The Stuff And Who

We Need to Be, to Be Somebody....

The Rest of Nature Doesn't Play These

Games; True, Some Survive, Some Do not

Yet They

Damned
Sure Aren't

Controlled by CuLTuRaL
Garbage Unless They End Up
As Domesticated Animals too...

Honestly, if i hadn't at least become
Partially 'Feral', i Would have never Truly Felt Fully Alive...

Okay, the Trump Administration did More than Zero...

Yet, Close to Half A Million

People are Dead; Where

Many Lives Would

Have Been

Saved and

Continuing now

If Not Modeled After

A Mask-Less Human Being Who DOES

HAVE ZERO LEVELS OF EMPATHY...

TRUE, THERE IS

A NAME
FOR THAT

CONDITION TOO....

One that a Real Human
Empath Won't Be Fooled By

With One Glance of What's Inside, Hint: (Nothing much)

What We Have Now Is A Life Saving Measure; People Who

At Least Aim to tell the Truth...

Who are in charge;

Difference:

Night And Day;

Lies and Truth to Play...

And Again It Doesn't Take a 'Rocket

Scientist' to See Who Is MaNiPuLaTinG

Folks On Purpose and Who
Is Not; True,

Perhaps

Not 'Just A Human'

Yet A 'Real Empath' Will

Spot the Difference in a 'Fox News Minute'...

Nah, My Wife, Doesn't Have a College Degree;

Yet No One Will Pass Her Eyes By, Where She Won't Figure

Out 'Who they are'...

Some People
Are Gifted With

Math; Some

Folks Are Gifted
Empaths in Emotional

Intelligence; And Sure Some Do Both;

Life Ain't Fair; And Quite Honesty some

of These Folks in the USA Sincerely Are Duped, and Believe the lies...

They Shouldn't
Be Very Happy

When They Find

Out They Have Been

Slaves; Perhaps, They'll

Want to Escape Prison Now and Set Their 'Souls' Free...

It's Looking that Way for Those Who have finally 'Un-Plugged'...

Ask
A Naked
Bird With

Wings How to Fly;

Better Yet, Just Get Naked and Do it Free....

Not Literally of Course Like a Horse; Just the CuLTuRaL Clothes oF Lies....

On the Other

Hand, Hehe,

They Could Fact
Check in Snopes;

It's What A Great 'Rocket Scientist'

Without Much Emotional Intelligence to Spot

A Psychopathic Leaning Liar Leader Will Do In a Heart Beat Too...

i often Assure my Wife That Her 'Degree in Human' Will Take Her

Much Further in Peace of Mind And it does...

Not Everyone
Again is

Gifted this way...

Or Has Earned their

Degree Through Decades of Trial And Error... Hmm...

And on the Other Hand, Science Shows A Life Spent in Mechanical
Cognition Activities Withers Away the Social Empathic Artistic Spiritual

Intelligence of Being

Human;

Seen it
Happen

Up Close and

Personal as i was surely

Described As Human With A Computer Soul Before When

Spending Enough Years/Days Behind A Screen At Work Devolving That

Way Then; Yet, Always Passing A 'Turing Test' Now; in Fact 'i Ace it'...

Or At Least
That's What
Feedback

From Other places Suggest...

It's A Hard Knock Life Without Yin And Yang All Balanced...

Existential Intelligences in Balance, Our CuLTuRES Miserably Fail at...

Indeed,
Folks Are

Products of their

CuLTuRES Plus or minus now....

Yet, For Most Folks, There Just Ain't No Room For Introspection...

Or The Attention Span Much Past a Twitter Breath of Life As Science Shows
Less than a Gold Fish; Yes, Literally Less than 3 Seconds; And this indeed is

A Core Beast of the Problem;

Most folks

Won't Go to
The Trouble

To do the Research;

They Just don't have the
Focus and Drive to Do It....

This Does Not Spell Good News for the Species;

Yet it makes Common Sense for Why Folks Get

Duped so easy now...

And Other Folks
Basically Exclaim

What 'The Bloody Hell'.... Is Up With 'Them'....

There is a Big Difference in Spreading Disinformation
On Purpose As An Organization or Just Repeating What someone said

That Was A Bit Hyperbolic in a Figurative Way; Yet Again, Ya Clarify and Move on....

This Ain't No Biggie
Like Ignorance and
Lies Pushed on Purpose
For Political Means That Kill
Scores of Thousands of more Folks...

That is Just
Plain Criminal Negligence

And A Travesty
Any Leader Will Get Away with it...

And Honestly When It's On Purpose, 'The News too'; Even 'Church' As
A Direct Result of Ignorance Injures, Rapes, Maims, And Kills... It's Not Good in Anyway...


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23 Jan 2021, 7:30 pm

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I was making a point. ;)


That Was Already Made

Okay....


I don't think it was.
For clarity's sake, what was the point that was already made?



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23 Jan 2021, 7:41 pm

I find it exceptionally hard to believe there was no plan at all.

It's quite possible, though, that whatever plans do exist were largely developed despite Trump rather than because of him.

So from Biden's perspective he might have thought he'd just inherited an empty folder. But that's actually more a question of rebuilding communication links with medical experts, civil servants, drugs companies, hospitals and State officials in order to populate the Presidential action file with the plan as it currently stands, before reviewing it.

That doesn't make for a sexy news story, though, does it?

Sensationalism rules, as always.



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23 Jan 2021, 7:42 pm

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I hear lots of complaining about CNN. Hopefully those same people don't watch Fox News, which claimed there was validity to Donald's election fraud claims. Heck, the anchors on that station don't even make an effort to look like they know what they're talking about, with Tucker Carlson looking especially clueless all the time. How anyone believes what anyone on that station says about anything is beyond me. :roll:


A man walked up to a woman in public and offered her a million dollars if she would sleep with him.
She eagerly accepted.
The man then asked her if she would sleep with him for $50.
She was indignant and asked him what he took her for.
The man said: "We have established what you are, we are just haggling over the price." :mrgreen:

There is no question there would have been voting rigging.
That is without a shadow of a doubt.
The question is, was there enough to change the election results. 8)

The courts looked at the evidence provided and dismissed the multiple claims, multiple times.
Due process was seen to be done and it was time to move on.
Trump's dummy-spit only made things worse for him and sullied his political contribution.
Silly bugger. 8)



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23 Jan 2021, 7:48 pm

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This is very common in Romania. I have no news channels I could keep, deleted them because their political facts were misleading. I was looking to learn more about politics but I'm sure now it's not a good idea doing it from the news. Im pretty sure some are paid by parties to make them look good or make the opposition look bad.


Politics and Corruption are soulmates, unfortunately. 8)

The news go against their own purpose, enemies of education and freedom of speech. Money rulz.
Ooh, check out the CNN chopper. Let's corrupt its integrity, darling~


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23 Jan 2021, 7:56 pm

Pepe wrote:
Tross wrote:
I hear lots of complaining about CNN. Hopefully those same people don't watch Fox News, which claimed there was validity to Donald's election fraud claims. Heck, the anchors on that station don't even make an effort to look like they know what they're talking about, with Tucker Carlson looking especially clueless all the time. How anyone believes what anyone on that station says about anything is beyond me. :roll:


A man walked up to a woman in public and offered her a million dollars if she would sleep with him.
She eagerly accepted.
The man then asked her if she would sleep with him for $50.
She was indignant and asked him what he took her for.
The man said: "We have established what you are, we are just haggling over the price." :mrgreen:

There is no question there would have been voting rigging.
That is without a shadow of a doubt.
The question is, was there enough to change the election results. 8)

The courts looked at the evidence provided and dismissed the multiple claims, multiple times.
Due process was seen to be done and it was time to move on.
Trump's dummy-spit only made things worse for him and sullied his political contribution.
Silly bugger. 8)
True, I suppose in a country that size, there are bound to be a small percentage of people who do commit voter fraud. In fact, there was evidence of apparently 1100 votes or so being fraudulent. That still doesn't support Donald's claim that the election was rife with fraud, and that the election was "stolen" from him. In fact, apparently some of those fraudulent votes were for him, go figure. :lol: Unfortunately, Donald's the kind of individual who refuses to accept anything that contradicts what he believes to be true, no matter how much evidence there is to the contrary.



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23 Jan 2021, 8:32 pm

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There is no question there would have been voting rigging.
That is without a shadow of a doubt.

No it isn't.

A vote that size has considerable potential for error. Both human error and machine glitches. If there weren't any errors at all, that would actually be a much bigger red flag when it comes to allegations of tampering. A glitch free election would be very suspicious because it's too good to be true.

But fear not, what we had instead was lots of mistakes. Broadly in line with the overall level of mistakes in previous elections, and not favouring one candidate over the other to any great extent. Despite the fact that considerably more attention was paid to some areas than others, too.

Now you could argue that means the Russians or Chinese interfered in this election just as much as the last one, thus giving roughly equivalent degrees of variance both times. Given both nations generally operate to cause international instability rather than favouring any one party or leader consistently, that does have some merit. But so far no-one has found any evidence of coordinated tampering, despite there being way more pressure and opportunity to do so this time than ever before.



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23 Jan 2021, 9:39 pm

Pepe wrote:
aghogday wrote:
Pepe wrote:
aghogday wrote:
Pepe wrote:
aghogday wrote:
Pepe wrote:
aghogday wrote:
YeaH A Huuuuge Difference in Nuts
Is that CNN Has The Balls to Admit
A Mistake in the Presentation of News Coverage


Did the revelation come out before or after the inauguration of Pr Joe Biden?


Dude i'm kind of a Busy Man...

This Is Your Question. The Op
Answers It. And i am Done with This Waste of my Time...


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23 Jan 2021, 10:04 pm

While they're at it, did they catch Bernie's 2021 entrance in the Alaskan Iditarod?

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24 Jan 2021, 1:28 pm

And yet...

Klain: Vaccine Distribution Plan Did Not Exist ‘When We Came Into the White House’


Biden Administration Forced To Start From Scratch In Vaccine War


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25 Jan 2021, 9:25 pm

Rexi wrote:
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Rexi wrote:
This is very common in Romania. I have no news channels I could keep, deleted them because their political facts were misleading. I was looking to learn more about politics but I'm sure now it's not a good idea doing it from the news. Im pretty sure some are paid by parties to make them look good or make the opposition look bad.


Politics and Corruption are soulmates, unfortunately. 8)

The news go against their own purpose, enemies of education and freedom of speech. Money rulz.
Ooh, check out the CNN chopper. Let's corrupt its integrity, darling~


So it seems.

The purpose of the news media, these days, is to 'spin' the truth in favour of which ever political faction they are supporting.
Just look at the Australian ABC. 8)



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25 Jan 2021, 9:27 pm

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Dude i'm kind of a Busy Man...

This Is Your Question. The Op
Answers It. And i am Done with This Waste of my Time...


For the recorded, no, you didn't understand the point I was making.
Time to move on. 8)



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25 Jan 2021, 9:38 pm

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There is no question there would have been voting rigging.
That is without a shadow of a doubt.

No it isn't.

A vote that size has considerable potential for error. Both human error and machine glitches. If there weren't any errors at all, that would actually be a much bigger red flag when it comes to allegations of tampering. A glitch free election would be very suspicious because it's too good to be true.

But fear not, what we had instead was lots of mistakes. Broadly in line with the overall level of mistakes in previous elections, and not favouring one candidate over the other to any great extent. Despite the fact that considerably more attention was paid to some areas than others, too.

Now you could argue that means the Russians or Chinese interfered in this election just as much as the last one, thus giving roughly equivalent degrees of variance both times. Given both nations generally operate to cause international instability rather than favouring any one party or leader consistently, that does have some merit. But so far no-one has found any evidence of coordinated tampering, despite there being way more pressure and opportunity to do so this time than ever before.


Are you suggesting not one person impersonated someone else?
Are you suggesting not one dead person voted in the election?
Are you saying not one person double-voted?
Are you suggesting not one person was approached for their vote?
Are you suggesting not one person was paid to vote in a certain way?

What an absurd suggestion. :mrgreen:

Here in Australia, we have a better voter vetting system than America, but even here we have had vote-rigging.

Technically speaking, your objection to my statement is self-evidently invalid, especially when you consider the unhinged hatred of Trump.
Use your knowledge of human psychology.

My question was, did it make a difference?
I doubt it, but the American voting system has to be improved upon, even if it only to allay concerns in the future. 8)