The Woke Generation - Fighting Back

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Woke is the opposite of nice, it is about cancelling people, confronting people, making people “uncomfortable” 24/7 for the purpose of exhausting people that disagree with them.

It is about being against the goal of colorblindness.

You are right in that me being autistic very much informs my opposition to woke but not for the reasons you think.

Woke emphasizes intersectionality. In and of itself the idea is not wrong. The more minority groups you belong to the more chances you will be at a disadvantage and discriminated against. But it is turning into your groups completely define you and instead of being a part of who you are.

This groupcentric world view is a key to understanding my opposition. While I identify as autistic there is that expression “if you have met one autistic you have met one autistic”. Allowing individuality is important. Many autistics such as me thrive better and are happier by ourselves.

As an autistic why would I want to err on the side of free expression for ableists, why would I want to allow their hate speech? Woke is for minorities, why would I be against that? It is precisely to because I am a member of this very small minority. For the most part the wokes have stayed away from autism concentrating on racial, sexuality, and gender issues. Eventually they will get around to us and I don’t think that will be a good thing. Wokes love diversity when it is diversity they like and if you don’t agree conform, conform and Autistics are often non conformists and as such may very well be viewed as a hate group that needs canceling. Advocate for not curing a disease that makes peoples lives miserable and kills them, that is hate speech. I can envision Autistics literalness and lack of understanding of euphemisms being misunderstood as hate. It has already happened a few times.

The woke agenda? Now please explain why the following things are bad:

Racial equality
Gender equality
Sexual orientation equality
Acceptance of autistic people
Acceptance of other disabled people

I think this is a great agenda here.


(I hope fnord didn't mind me copying and pasting part of his post)

The woke agenda? Now please explain why the following things are bad:

Racial equality
Gender equality
Sexual orientation equality
Acceptance of autistic people
Acceptance of other disabled people

I think this is a great agenda here.


(I hope fnord didn't mind me copying and pasting part of his post)

It doesn't sound so bad, I know. The problem is the SJW extremists who overboard with it.
You have people looking for anything to be offended by on behalf of people who may not have a problem with it. Demanding changes to currently written popular culture and banning what's in the past. What's worse is that SJW's don't buy this crap so it's not gonna sell well with any other audience either, but writers, directors, and producers are still gonna try.

The woke agenda? Now please explain why the following things are bad:

Racial equality
Gender equality
Sexual orientation equality
Acceptance of autistic people
Acceptance of other disabled people

I think this is a great agenda here.


(I hope fnord didn't mind me copying and pasting part of his post)

It doesn't sound so bad, I know. The problem is the SJW extremists who overboard with it.

I generally find it odd that a lot of people who say that are vocal of being against what they say is groupthink, for freedom of speech and individuality, often end up being the same kind that are also into things like patriotism.

Such as people who are MAGA. How can they simultaneously say that they are so against group think, but also say that you have to worship a flag and other patriotism things. So for individuality, but also against people not being traditional. Against 'virtue signalling' and self-righteousness, but are on the side of purity culture.

We are not telling anyone how they should think, as a matter of fact that's what this thread is about. You're not even fighting for anything here, simply a jumble of immaterial concepts you're hell bent on blaming younger generations for.

Excuse me but did I really miss anything?

The agenda is to end colorblindness, have people look for systematic racism or anti-racism in every action, every word. The agenda is to make people lose their whiteness which is defined as being witting or unwitting fragile privileged racists. Claiming negative traits based on race used to be defined as racism. The agenda is to define people completely by their traits viewed as bigotry by today's standards no matter what positive, non or anti-racism they did in their lives.

I agree that MAGA's and wokes have a lot more in common then they would care to admit.

For MAGA's RINOs might as well be commies because they enable them. For wokes there is no such thing as nonracists, they are enablers of white supremacy therefore just as bad a KKK types.

America is imperfect. (Does it even need to be said?) There is bigotry toward Blacks and gays and Jews and immigrants; there is intense polarization; political violence is becoming more regular; elected representatives believe conspiracy theories. All true here as in many other countries being torn apart by the dislocations of the 21st century.

But there is no gulag in America. There are no laws permitting honor killings. There is no formal social credit system of the kind that exists right now in China.

I blame the older generations for creating conditions whereby woke solutions seem reasonable. Critical Race Theory was formed in the 1980s thus not the younger generation. Robin DeAngelo author of "White Fragility" is 64 years old a baby boomer.

Actually the real reason you have progressives (whom you label as woke) is because European colonies were hell on earth for slaves and coolies, working class, poor, natives, women, gays, the disabled and other unfortunates.

Europe itself was bulldozed with two wars and rebuilt with some new ideas in mind (of which some turned out deadly dead ends and some turned out actual improvements) but the colonies didn't go through this process to any comparable extent.