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25 Jan 2021, 2:08 pm

Smokers who claim they care about the environment are ... pathological liars.

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25 Jan 2021, 2:10 pm

kitesandtrainsandcats wrote:
Smokers who claim they care about the environment are ... pathological liars.

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What makes you think that it was smokers who threw those ... uh ... yeah ... never mind.

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25 Jan 2021, 2:27 pm

How do you know the smokers who tossed out those butts care about the environment? I smoked years ago, but never threw butts on the ground.


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25 Jan 2021, 4:32 pm

Only smokers suck butts.


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25 Jan 2021, 7:26 pm

"while it was initially believed tha CA [cellulose acetate] was virtually non-biodegradable, it has been shown that after initial deacetylization, the polymer's backbone is readily biodegraded by cellulase enzymes. In biologically highly active soil, CA fibers are completely destroyed after 4-9 months"

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Yeah, it's not aesthetically pleasing, but it also doesn't compare with the washing of polyester or nylon clothing, which releases non-degradable microfibers into the water.


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26 Jan 2021, 11:41 am

shlaifu wrote:
"while it was initially believed tha CA [cellulose acetate] was virtually non-biodegradable, it has been shown that after initial deacetylization, the polymer's backbone is readily biodegraded by cellulase enzymes. In biologically highly active soil, CA fibers are completely destroyed after 4-9 months"

From Wikipedia, on cellulose acetate.

Yeah, it's not aesthetically pleasing, but it also doesn't compare with the washing of polyester or nylon clothing, which releases non-degradable microfibers into the water.


They still shouldn't be thrown out. Plus, the bigger harm is, from what I've understood, different kinds of animals ending up eating parts of them. Needless to say, that's not safe for them.



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27 Jan 2021, 2:18 pm

I always field stripped my butts when I smoked.Any kind of litter is disgusting.
I vape instead now.


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27 Jan 2021, 2:22 pm

 

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28 Jan 2021, 1:06 am

Smokers don't care about the environment. If they did, they wouldn't throw their butts out the window and risk starting a fire. Forrest fires are started by smokers every year.


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29 Jan 2021, 7:59 pm

That is litter. In itself it is hardly poluting. If it was polluting there would be a complete ban on tobacco plantations as well as many other plants from cabbages, lettices, and any other plant which starts to dry out and decay.

Pollution is different to littering.


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29 Jan 2021, 8:20 pm

My mum swears by adding cigarette butts to the soil for growing roses. 'Course, her 50-a-day habit was rather less good for my health.


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30 Jan 2021, 11:06 pm

Probably keeps bugs away from the roses.Nicotine can be used as a pesticide.Some people save old butts ,soak them in water, strain ,and spray on pests.It stinks really bad.


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04 Feb 2021, 3:18 am

There are a few startups making biodegradable filters. GreenButts is one of them. We need Big Tobacco to care enough about the environment to invest in them.


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04 Feb 2021, 4:44 am

Misslizard wrote:
Probably keeps bugs away from the roses.Nicotine can be used as a pesticide.Some people save old butts ,soak them in water, strain ,and spray on pests.It stinks really bad.


Like most plant derived drugs that humans get addicted to ...nicotine evolved in a plant species to combat bugs. The bug predators of the tobacco plant. So it makes sense that nicotine would repel bugs, if not kill them.