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05 Feb 2021, 7:43 am

People on the left.

I don't get it. He didn't create an underfunded NHS. He just helped to fund it through doing more than he should've had to.

But my twitter TL has people slagging him off.

He's dead for goodness sake. I don't like it when people insult the dead for little to no reason.


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05 Feb 2021, 7:59 am

I don't know anybody who hates Captain Tom. My Facebook is full of people praising him up and saying what a hero he was. Those people on Twitter must be young, immature trolls who don't know how the world works.


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05 Feb 2021, 7:59 am

It's because they're jealous of what he did.

They are little more than feeble little cowards who simply don't deserve the air they're breathing.



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05 Feb 2021, 8:11 am

It perplexes me that people could hate someone they don’t even know or hasn’t done anything toward them

I think however, many others have done many things to contribute towards society yet don’t get the recognition they deserve. Yet some are pushed way too much. Life unfair



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05 Feb 2021, 9:45 am

Because he's a junky, strung out in heavens high, hitting that all time low?

(Oh, wait, I was thinking of Major Tom. Nevermind.)


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05 Feb 2021, 11:50 am

KT67 wrote:
People on the left.

I don't get it. He didn't create an underfunded NHS. He just helped to fund it through doing more than he should've had to.

But my twitter TL has people slagging him off.

He's dead for goodness sake. I don't like it when people insult the dead for little to no reason.

May he rest in peace. That man is a hero, if an unconventional one, and I cannot see why people dislike him.
Edit: I think he got promoted to Colonel as an honorary title in April last year.


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05 Feb 2021, 11:54 am

KT67 wrote:
People on the left.  I don't get it. He didn't create an underfunded NHS. He just helped to fund it through doing more than he should've had to.  But my twitter TL has people slagging him off.  He's dead for goodness sake. I don't like it when people insult the dead for little to no reason.
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It's because they're jealous of what he did.  They are little more than feeble little cowards who simply don't deserve the air they're breathing.
Would either (or both) of you please provide valid evidence of your claims?

Links to appropriate mainstream news (not tabloid) media articles are preferred.

Thank you.


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05 Feb 2021, 12:30 pm

Fnord wrote:
KT67 wrote:
People on the left.  I don't get it. He didn't create an underfunded NHS. He just helped to fund it through doing more than he should've had to.  But my twitter TL has people slagging him off.  He's dead for goodness sake. I don't like it when people insult the dead for little to no reason.
maycontainthunder wrote:
It's because they're jealous of what he did.  They are little more than feeble little cowards who simply don't deserve the air they're breathing.
Would either (or both) of you please provide valid evidence of your claims?

Links to appropriate mainstream news (not tabloid) media articles are preferred.

Thank you.


If I had it it would be in the form of a tweet.

I was going to link it but felt that to be invasive of my mutual's privacy.

It won't be covered by mainstream news as it's just some random's opinion.

If you search Twitter, you find: 99% of people being supportive of him, 0.5% of people calling him a pawn (fair enough) then 0.5% of people calling him a Tory which is ridiculous.

My opinion on morals is: it's not unethical to do something someone else ought to be doing. Yes, the NHS should already be well funded through the tax payer. But working so it's better funded through charities? Esp as an old man? That's a moral thing to do! Same as if someone else's kid is hungry, better to feed them than to let them starve.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... a-pandemic

For anyone who doesn't know who I'm talking about, this is the guy (broadsheet newspaper, warning of liberal/left wing bias, BBC wasn't bringing up a concise enough obituary)

I'm on the left. These are people I've chosen to follow in part because I agree with them politically. But I disagree with them tweeting stuff against him when he did a good thing.


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05 Feb 2021, 12:33 pm

The article for which you provided the link does not support your original claim.


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05 Feb 2021, 12:46 pm

If I personally know anyone who hates or throws shade on Captain Tom, I will personally admonish them.


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05 Feb 2021, 1:00 pm

Fnord wrote:
If I personally know anyone who hates or throws shade on Captain Tom, I will personally admonish them.

As shall I. He is a hero and should be treated as such. His deeds show a selflessness and compassion beyond most.


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05 Feb 2021, 1:28 pm

Fnord wrote:
The article for which you provided the link does not support your original claim.


It's a ridiculous thing to ask tbh.

Challenge to you:

Find any broadsheet or BBC article quoting a non-public figure's twitter account.

The tabloids think it is sensible journalism but the broadsheets don't. The tabloids use it to sum up how people feel about trivial stuff like sports games and TV shows.


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05 Feb 2021, 2:41 pm

Fnord wrote:
If I personally know anyone who hates or throws shade on Captain Tom, I will personally admonish them.


I called it out more subtly, just giving my thoughts on the actual TL.

And I unfollowed the guy, he unfollowed me back.

I just don't think it's ok to link tweets from non-famous people. Then it turns into a whole cancelling thing against someone who isn't famous.

I have a love-hate relationship with cancel culture anyway. I will look into things & decide to boycott people/condemn them if I hear they're being cancelled for good reason. But I won't spread those reasons around. Even when they're famous.

Idk if it's not common sense to autistic ppl or maybe not common sense to ppl who aren't on social media a lot, but it's generally regarded as bad to spread non-famous ppl's tweets in order to stir up negativity against them. Even when it's deserved.


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05 Feb 2021, 3:11 pm

KT67 wrote:
... The tabloids think it is sensible journalism but the broadsheets don't. The tabloids use it to sum up how people feel about trivial stuff like sports games and TV shows.
Ahh ... a tabloid ... I think we can all do better without them, and anyone who posts comments through them.

Boycotting businesses and ghosting people is more my style, since trying to get someone cancelled can backfire, especially if they are famous or popular.

No worries, KT.  My apologies to you.


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05 Feb 2021, 7:23 pm

Who IS this "Captain Tom" person?



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05 Feb 2021, 8:30 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
Who IS this "Captain Tom" person?


I take it you don't live in the UK.


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