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04 Apr 2021, 9:27 am

I did a political compass as if it was a private therapy session or something. Not giving a crap what others would think.

Anyway I still got left wing.

Same level just closer to authoritarian. Still liberal left box.

Considering this is about social attitudes it makes me wonder if right wingers are pushing the 'my race has superior qualities' thing with 'agree'. Which is gross if so.

I agreed to the civilised and uncivilised cultures thing. I think uncivilised cultures are rare but I saw a documentary where they always have cannibalism after a death and they killed a six year old orphan and ate him. Sorry but a society like that is thoroughly uncivilised compared to most other places on earth, yes including other places of the same broad 'ethnicity'.


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04 Apr 2021, 9:57 am

I think the main takeaway from the political compass test is that the sharp elbows are at the top (authoritarian) and hate each other while the lower two quadrants are more likely to be able to get along and get things done so long as they can stay in a place where nuance is possible - nuance being something those in the authoritarian quadrants generally can't stand.

I like the degree to which a lot of people are dining a la carte and not committing to a party or taking politics issue by issue. It's really the only way we can even get a handle on what the real problems actually are and get to work on them.

Also to the best of my recall I tend to get center-left libertarian.


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04 Apr 2021, 11:03 am

When you take a political compass test, ask yourself the same questions you do when reading a news article:

- Who made this?

- Why did they make it?

- What sorts of messages are they trying to send?

- What evidence do they offer to support their claims?

Take a look at this article:
https://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2020

Read the copy. Which politician does it favour? Which ones is it against, and how strongly?

Then have a look at the charts. Where does it place the candidates? Does it explain how it came to those conclusions?

Bernie Sanders is described as "in other western democracies he would sit squarely within the mainstream social democratic parties that regularly form governments or comprise the largest opposition". Is this true? Well, no. In 2020, Bernie Sanders proposed expanding the size of the US government to an even larger size than Jeremy Corbyn, who is considered a radical leftist in the UK, or any government in any western democracy. He is an extremist. Why is the political compass presenting him as a moderate?

You can also try comparing it to their article on the 2008 election. Ask yourself - has Joe Biden really moved to the same position as Sarah Palin? https://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2008

Then have a look at other people's political compass scores. Consider how your own compares with your perception of where you stand. See how many people end up clustering in the bottom-left corner, even people who identify (and are identified by others) as right-wing. I have seen plenty of Trump supporters take this test over the year. Many of them were more outspoken than Trump in their support for right-wing policies. I have never seen somebody come even close to Trump's "score" on this test, and very few people come close to Biden.

Bonus: have a look at this quiz, which at least has the decency to tell you which way it is trying to funnel you somewhat up-front: https://www.theadvocates.org/quiz/
I think that quiz will score most people significantly further to the right...

If you're American, then I would argue that Pew Research's Political Typography is the most reliable way of placing yourself. It doesn't try to push you in one direction or another, it is based on research rather than gut feelings, and it allows you to choose statements that people might actually believe rather than offering up straw men. https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/qu ... -typology/



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05 Apr 2021, 12:00 pm

I tried this one: 8 Values. Not clear how broadly applicable it is across different countries, but it doesn't seem to be trying to lead you in any specific direction.


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05 Apr 2021, 12:07 pm

I tend to float around in a box between -8, -8 and -6.5, -6.5 and have ever since I outgrew being a tankie.


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05 Apr 2021, 1:32 pm

MaxE wrote:
I tried this one: 8 Values. Not clear how broadly applicable it is across different countries, but it doesn't seem to be trying to lead you in any specific direction.

Well, I got this:
https://8values.github.io/results.html? ... 7.3&s=81.6

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Which puts me in the category of "Social Libertarianism".

A few questions were a bit poorly worded, but this test is certainly less biased than the aforementioned Political Compass, and it does seem to be less US-centric.