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14 Mar 2021, 12:09 pm

Little bit of hyperbole but I'm at least glad he can still pull some Gervais from time to time.


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14 Mar 2021, 3:44 pm

I generally detest trudging through YouTube videos, and Bill Maher just isn't as fun as Jon Stewart.

... but he has a point here ...

The US is too consumed with petty internal bickering to mount a serious challenge to the increasing influence of China at the world stage.

All this talk about being "Tough on China" doesn't change the fact that China has already surpassed the US as the world's largest economy in 2016... and China will continue to outpace the US in decades to come, as it has a lot more growth potential than the US.

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Now, let's get back to discussing *serious* stuff... like Dr. Seuss (apparently more important than a $1.9 trillion relief package), Disney actresses, Meghan Markle and the Woke/Cancel crisis posing an existential and acute threat to the very fabric of the United States of America*.

*Not to be confused with the SJW crisis posing an existential and acute threat to the very fabric of the United States of America from a few years back... that was a *totally* different thing...



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14 Mar 2021, 4:07 pm

GGPViper wrote:
Now, let's get back to discussing *serious* stuff... like Dr. Seuss (apparently more important than a $1.9 trillion relief package), Disney actresses, Meghan Markle and the Woke/Cancel crisis posing an existential and acute threat to the very fabric of the United States of America*.

This is where I really like Eric Weinstein's analogy of the peacetime centrist kleptocrats cutting all of the paintings out of the walls of the estate, stealing the silverware, and I'd add on top of it feeding the guards rohypnols via the MSM and the for-profit entertainment, titillation, and ego-stroking model of news.


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14 Mar 2021, 8:37 pm

"the philosophy of star trek" sounds like an interesting course, actually.

I never understood people (including the people in the country I live in) being surprised about China taking a leading position in the world. They're 1.3 billion people, and the Country is huge.

You can't defend capitalism by repeating over and over that it is lifting people in developing countries out of poverty, and then get upset about the only developing country that managed to actually do that.


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15 Mar 2021, 4:53 am

And according to the current growth projections, India will likely overtake the US in a decade or so too, bumping it further down to 3rd place.

There is nothing natural about the US being the world's largest economy. It has been so for about 125 years, but if one looks at history, other countries (India and China, especially) have dominated for even longer periods of time.

Some food for thought:

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15 Mar 2021, 6:41 am

GGPViper wrote:
There is nothing natural about the US being the world's largest economy. It has been so for about 125 years, but if one looks at history, other countries (India and China, especially) have dominated for even longer periods of time.


Mark Blyth often talks about the unnatural amount of fortune we had after WW2. We not only were able to fund rebuilding in Europe without having our own rebuilding to do but we experienced a great deal of the capital flight from Europe and ended up with more than 50% of the world's capital assets by the early 1950's. Part of our slide downward economically has been an equilibrium reaction, part of it as well has been our lack of technological innovation which, rather perversely, seems to have had a lot to do with our tradeoff of discouraging American students from going into the sciences and taking H1B visas instead because it was cheaper.


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16 Mar 2021, 5:24 am

My fourth grade teacher told us China would overtake the US and that was in the 1960s. The signs have been there for a long time.


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