Page 1 of 3 [ 42 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3  Next

madbutnotmad
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 20 Nov 2016
Age: 52
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,678
Location: Jersey UK

17 Mar 2021, 6:47 pm

hello
from years of experience of being a victim of people who are douche bags
from years of watching news events (including political events but also scandals)

I have noticed there is a pattern to many of these incidents

someone with a vulnerability gets pushed over the edge
often orchestrated by douche bags on days that have significance to them (not to me or the other victims)
the loose cannon then fires, destroys something or someone, and gets arrested or also gets taken out

i call this "moron magic(k)"
as there appears to be a ritual aspect of what is going on

I think it is possible that it is related to other systems of ritual abuse but which may even be used by bent police people

The pattern I have noticed is that the abuse appears to be orchestrated to happen on "magically significant" dates

9/11, 9, 11, 20
birthdays, anniversaries
Halloween
Easter
Xmas

(Christian holidays are chosen, so as to ruin them, people's spirits and expectations are higher at these times,
so more to spoil, more aggression and anger is generated on such days).

call it ritual Satanism / devil Worship
what ever you like

I call it Moron Magic(k)
Magic(k) practised by morons

against those in society that have a weakness
such as Autism Spectrum Disorder



Mona Pereth
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 11 Sep 2018
Gender: Female
Posts: 8,667
Location: New York City (Queens)

17 Mar 2021, 7:28 pm

madbutnotmad wrote:
from years of watching news events (including political events but also scandals)

I have noticed there is a pattern to many of these incidents

Can you give specific examples (from news events) of this pattern?

As far as significant dates are concerned, your list of categories of possible significant dates includes quite a few possible dates. While it's true that at least some mass murderers, etc., do choose dates that are significant to them, it might not be appropriate to see this as a general pattern. Keep in mind the birthday paradox.


_________________
- Autistic in NYC - Resources and new ideas for the autistic adult community in the New York City metro area.
- Autistic peer-led groups (via text-based chat, currently) led or facilitated by members of the Autistic Peer Leadership Group.


techstepgenr8tion
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 6 Feb 2005
Age: 45
Gender: Male
Posts: 24,582
Location: 28th Path of Tzaddi

17 Mar 2021, 8:25 pm

There's a term called stochastic terrorism, where if you can broadcast something that suggests violence of some kind would be a good thing and do so with plausible deniability then there's a good chance that - if 100k people are listening - at least one of them will be unhappy enough with their lives, down on their luck enough, that they'll take said action. No risk invested up front, all risks taken by whoever feels like they have nothing to lose on their own terms.


_________________
The loneliest part of life: it's not just that no one is on your cloud, few can even see your cloud.


Mona Pereth
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 11 Sep 2018
Gender: Female
Posts: 8,667
Location: New York City (Queens)

17 Mar 2021, 10:57 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
There's a term called stochastic terrorism, where if you can broadcast something that suggests violence of some kind would be a good thing and do so with plausible deniability then there's a good chance that - if 100k people are listening - at least one of them will be unhappy enough with their lives, down on their luck enough, that they'll take said action. No risk invested up front, all risks taken by whoever feels like they have nothing to lose on their own terms.

I don't disagree with this. But Madbutnotmad is also making other, more specific claims.


_________________
- Autistic in NYC - Resources and new ideas for the autistic adult community in the New York City metro area.
- Autistic peer-led groups (via text-based chat, currently) led or facilitated by members of the Autistic Peer Leadership Group.


techstepgenr8tion
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 6 Feb 2005
Age: 45
Gender: Male
Posts: 24,582
Location: 28th Path of Tzaddi

17 Mar 2021, 11:39 pm

Mona Pereth wrote:
I don't disagree with this. But Madbutnotmad is also making other, more specific claims.

So the rest of what I'd say on that, like what I'd say on synchronicity, is way less popular because it's not reductive materialist. IMHO we're in a conscious equilibrium system but sparsely conscious, ie. in a dream-like, limbic, and pre-cognitive sense. Often times when you feel like you're having archetypal stories jammed down over your life or like some really bad hack author is positioning the people around you to try 'making you' the closest approximation of what they think you should end up as, it points in the direction of the system trying to lay down tracks for you or even pull you toward (my best guess) what seem to be either high-probability or high intensity future states.

I'd add, in the sense that I've been dealing with kundalini syndrome for the past eight or nine years and still don't know what to make of it - I get the sense that a lot of this is really deep, also very animalistic and archetypal (possibly more Freud than Jung at the lower layers), but again that's a nose-bleed conversation about things that make anyone look 'stupid' when as many people agree that the initial premise - ie. consciousness not emerging from brains - is some sort of fear of death or wishful thinking.

The best advice I can give anyone on anything occult - treat it like an extension of the world of Darwinian game theory, deep primal (as well as solipsistic) emotion underpinning the velocities, and see what you might be able to spot bouncing around at lower levels in public events, political movements, etc., and when it seems like someone's really touched a lightning rod don't be surprised if the speech they gave was at a synchronistic time or that the video for the song they made has strange prophetic content because it's a nexus of so many feedback loops. Instead of looking at it as 'Illuminati conspiracies' it might be better to wonder what we still need to learn about complex systems, particularly that none of us are purely our own despite how tightly our own brains might be laced together, consider that systemic effects interpenetrate us and pull on our motivations a lot, and then when a whole bunch of things line up in a particular manner that either solves a problem or aligns all of the tumblers in something like a lock mechanism that you don't get strange occult, seemingly supernatural, byproducts. Hold that up more against things like converging and diverging number systems, Markov chains, repeating mathematical processes that yield the kinds of fractal results you get in nature, it seems like it's a mashup of all of those things aligning in novel ways.

Is it possible that a bunch of black magicians like dog-whistling at each other? Sure, it's just that I'd really need to see evidence that either they really have as much control over their environment as they like to think or that whatever forms of consciousness they're striking deals with have the capacity to do such things. My sense is that it's a lot more noisy, to whatever degree people might be able to break out Renaissance grimoires and arbatels to commune with angels and demons they're going to find (taking this from Stephen Skinner of all people) that they show up more out of politeness than compulsion, that a magic circle or triangle is more like a public directional on the floor of a subway meaning they're bound to these conventions by no laws of physics, and to the degree that such beings exist we're only tangentially interesting - ie. they're not fly-by-wire missiles that we can use for war against each other any more than you can take other people and bend them to your will.

To that extent stochastic terrorism with a bit of synchronistic jiggering if the event is big enough seems to cover it pretty well.


_________________
The loneliest part of life: it's not just that no one is on your cloud, few can even see your cloud.


madbutnotmad
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 20 Nov 2016
Age: 52
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,678
Location: Jersey UK

18 Mar 2021, 9:33 am

The event which occurred in Atlanta on Tuesday, was on the 9th.
9 is know as a Satanic number, because it is 6 up side down.
6 is known as a Satanic number, because it resembles a horned entity.
11 is also known as a Satanic number, as it resembles 2 horns.
20 is known as a Satanic number, because if you divide it by 3, you get 6.666 reoccur plus 6.666 reoccur plus 6.666 reoccur.

The tragedy that occurred on 9/11 I also consider to be this type of incident. Due to having 9 and 11 in the date, but also combined 9 and 11 = 20.

There are loads of incidents where such dates are used, as well as Friday the 13th and Full moons.
I have also been subjected to a campaign myself, where bad events all occur on the above dates.
I believe the people who are attempting to provoke me to commit crime use the same type of system of magik.



Fnord
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 6 May 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 60,939
Location:      

18 Mar 2021, 9:38 am

Numerology?  Really?

:roll:

It is one thing to recognize that many things in the universe can be explained by reduction to mathematical formulae. The formulae can be tested and demonstrated to be accurate or not.  It is quite another to claim that somehow the name you are given at birth was preordained to coincide with the date of your birth and to be coordinated with certain numbers so that certain special people (the numerologists!) could calculate from this data who you are, what you will be, what you need and feel, and what you should do.

It is a long, long way from Plato's admonition to those entering his Academy that they should know geometry, or from Galileo's assertion that Nature is written in the language of mathematics, to the false notion that numbers related to my name are a key to who I am pre-destined to be.

It is a misrepresentation of history to cite mathematical mystics or scientists who have been enamored of mathematics, as numerologists.  In any case, even if Pythagoras, Plato, Kepler, Galileo, and Einstein were all numerologists it would NOT make the fantasy of numerology any more plausible.



GGPViper
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 23 Sep 2009
Gender: Male
Posts: 5,880

18 Mar 2021, 9:46 am

Well, Moron magic has been possible ever since Dungeons & Dragons decided to create Charisma-based spellcasters back in 2000.

As a result, a 3 INT, 3 Wis, 19 CHA sorcerer (an utter moron, but a smashingly handsome one) can eventually cast Wail of the Banshee, Meteor Swarm, Gate and Wish.

... what could possibly go wrong?



Fnord
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 6 May 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 60,939
Location:      

18 Mar 2021, 9:51 am

↑ Good point.  The only time associating numbers with personality traits makes sense is when rolling up an NPC.

Link to Example.



Sweetleaf
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 6 Jan 2011
Age: 35
Gender: Female
Posts: 35,138
Location: Somewhere in Colorado

18 Mar 2021, 10:44 am

madbutnotmad wrote:
The event which occurred in Atlanta on Tuesday, was on the 9th.
9 is know as a Satanic number, because it is 6 up side down.
6 is known as a Satanic number, because it resembles a horned entity.
11 is also known as a Satanic number, as it resembles 2 horns.
20 is known as a Satanic number, because if you divide it by 3, you get 6.666 reoccur plus 6.666 reoccur plus 6.666 reoccur.

The tragedy that occurred on 9/11 I also consider to be this type of incident. Due to having 9 and 11 in the date, but also combined 9 and 11 = 20.

There are loads of incidents where such dates are used, as well as Friday the 13th and Full moons.
I have also been subjected to a campaign myself, where bad events all occur on the above dates.
I believe the people who are attempting to provoke me to commit crime use the same type of system of magik.


As a Satanist those numbers mean nothing, its just made up nonsense...some satanic themed metal bands still reference it just for fun or satanic artwork but it doesn't actually mean anything.

But yeah the idea satanists are going around ritually abusing people or somehow causing bad events to happen on dates involving so called satanic numbers is false, that is not what satanism is.

My guess is coincidence, nothing more, like maybe friday the 13th is just unlucky because people think it is, but in reality its not as if more bad things actually happen on that day. It's like a placebo...


_________________
Eat the rich, feed the poor. No not literally idiot, cannibalism is gross.


Fnord
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 6 May 2008
Gender: Male
Posts: 60,939
Location:      

18 Mar 2021, 10:51 am

GGPViper wrote:
Well, Moron magic has been possible ever since Dungeons & Dragons decided to create Charisma-based spellcasters back in 2000.

As a result, a 3 INT, 3 Wis, 19 CHA sorcerer (an utter moron, but a smashingly handsome one) can eventually cast Wail of the Banshee, Meteor Swarm, Gate and Wish.

... what could possibly go wrong?
This:

Image



GGPViper
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 23 Sep 2009
Gender: Male
Posts: 5,880

18 Mar 2021, 11:41 am

Fnord wrote:
GGPViper wrote:
Well, Moron magic has been possible ever since Dungeons & Dragons decided to create Charisma-based spellcasters back in 2000.

As a result, a 3 INT, 3 Wis, 19 CHA sorcerer (an utter moron, but a smashingly handsome one) can eventually cast Wail of the Banshee, Meteor Swarm, Gate and Wish.

... what could possibly go wrong?
This:

Image

Abi-Dalzim's Horrid Willy in action, I see...



madbutnotmad
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 20 Nov 2016
Age: 52
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,678
Location: Jersey UK

18 Mar 2021, 12:40 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
madbutnotmad wrote:
The event which occurred in Atlanta on Tuesday, was on the 9th.
9 is know as a Satanic number, because it is 6 up side down.
6 is known as a Satanic number, because it resembles a horned entity.
11 is also known as a Satanic number, as it resembles 2 horns.
20 is known as a Satanic number, because if you divide it by 3, you get 6.666 reoccur plus 6.666 reoccur plus 6.666 reoccur.

The tragedy that occurred on 9/11 I also consider to be this type of incident. Due to having 9 and 11 in the date, but also combined 9 and 11 = 20.

There are loads of incidents where such dates are used, as well as Friday the 13th and Full moons.
I have also been subjected to a campaign myself, where bad events all occur on the above dates.
I believe the people who are attempting to provoke me to commit crime use the same type of system of magik.


As a Satanist those numbers mean nothing, its just made up nonsense...some satanic themed metal bands still reference it just for fun or satanic artwork but it doesn't actually mean anything.

But yeah the idea satanists are going around ritually abusing people or somehow causing bad events to happen on dates involving so called satanic numbers is false, that is not what satanism is.

My guess is coincidence, nothing more, like maybe friday the 13th is just unlucky because people think it is, but in reality its not as if more bad things actually happen on that day. It's like a placebo...


There are 7 billion people who live on this planet. Among the 7 billion, there are various different philosophies, religious beliefs and practices.

There are numerous types of Christianity, and i believe there are numerous forms of Satanism.
Some who use ritual to abuse their victims, some who do not.

Due to the deceitful nature of any philosophy or religion based on "Satanism" or even old fashion Devil worship.
I would say that it is fairly plausible to state that practices likely include deceitfulness, which includes....
lying! or perhaps, especially the practice of lying. As how devilish to spread lies, how Satan (if he/she existed)
would be pleased with such behaviour.

I believe that there has been a strong link between people who practice ritual occult abuse, and
the entertainment industry and organised crime (including in politics and the police).

In pop history, there is the legend of selling ones soul to the devil for material success,
which people through modern history have used to subject the talented idols to abuse (and set up to take their lives)
when they are 27 (2+7=9). The infamous 27 club.

In pop history, it is associated with Robert Johnson and legends after it, periodically.
wikipedia page on the 27 club

Riot at the white house
6th of Jan 2021



madbutnotmad
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 20 Nov 2016
Age: 52
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,678
Location: Jersey UK

18 Mar 2021, 12:48 pm

Just to note, I have read up on the Church of Satan, which I understand is portrayed by its members as nothing like good old fashioned devil worship or satanism, as it's teachings do not instruct people to ritually abuse their victims,
and there are no rituals...

apart from
Satanic Rituals: Companion to the "Satanic Bible"

At Satan's Altar: A Collection of Prayers, Chants, Affirmations, Hymns, and Rituals

etc.

Systems of abuse are not new, are were not invented by heavy metal bands, not even invented by Anton LaVey,
if you read up on the history of Europe, you will discover developments such as the Hell Fire Club.
A club run by white privileged power elite, including members of the Church of England
who frequented the club, for debauchery and ritual "magic" practice.

Aleister Crowley and Benjamin Franklin also frequented the caves where the club was held.
This is the perverse nature of the ruling aristocratic class, how deliciously fiendish
to hold such power and office in society, to be considered the moral pillar of society
while at the same time, acting completely in the contrary covertly with the rest of the power elite.

And that is perhaps how such practices developed and was adopted eventually by various cliques in modern society.

The Secret History of the Hell-Fire Clubs: From Rabelais and John Dee to Anton LaVey and Timothy Leary Paperback – 14 Nov. 2019



aghogday
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 25 Nov 2010
Age: 65
Gender: Male
Posts: 12,071

18 Mar 2021, 10:58 pm







The Nocebo and Placebo Effect Are Real.

Other Metaphors Include Voodoo And Prayer;

And Yes to Some Degree At Least For What Folks Believe/

Imagine With Emotions Fully In Tow, the Subconscious Mind
Far Beyond Our Conscious Mind Puts All We Have Ever Known
And Done As Experience to Create The Next Experience of Life Now

In Synergy; Sum Greater Than Parts in Affect of Feelings And Effect of Actions

That Emotions and Subconscious Mind; Yes, Within With All Senses Hand-in-Hand Create

As Our Reality

To Come Now;

Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Baby

i am Born on 6.6.60 And With

My Born-on Date Name the Numerology

Calculator Available Online Gives me the Tarot

Fool 0 Challenge of Free Will At Birth to Do Whatever

The Hell and Heaven i Wanna Do; With the Next 3 Challenges

of 1 and 1 and 1; Just to Affirm What i Wanna Do So For A Long 'Spell'

After Graduating From College With Three Degrees At Once All with the

Logo oF A Nautilus Shell Still across My Desk in my Bedroom; Where the Symbols

Imprinted Look Like Three Spiraling Sixes, indeed; Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, The Golden

Phi Finger Print of Nature that Folks Are So Frigging Afraid in Ignorance of in Old

Two Thousand And Three Thousand And Something Year-Old Bibles Put Together by

Innumerable Ghost Authors And Scribes Copying it After Roman Greek Writing Ghost

Authors Picked And Chose Innumerable Christian Sect Oral Traditions, Decades After the

Dude Yeshua was Put on a Cross Then as it seems now that Much might have happened even

Though He was a little Brown Syrian Looking Dude With Shortly Cropped Hair Who Was Illiterate

Like All His Buds aS Only the Highest Of Priestly Order had the Privilege of Literacy and why Folks

Basically Worshipped

Books From the

Get Go as they

Were So rare then

And Only Written on Papyrus

Pages and Such as that Not really

Bound And Covered As such And surely

Not Printed With Printing Press until the 1400's

And Not even Numbered by Verse As an Anthology of

Poetry and Prose and the Such until the 1300's; Anyway, After

College i worked At a Military Bowing Center Serving out Shoes

As That's What i Wanted to Do; Where i am 'From' Money isn't 'Large';

YeaH, it Just so HaPPeNS i'll Probably Publish on The Spring Equinox

By This Saturday Finishing the Writing Today of A 5 MiLLioN Word

Long Form Free Verse Bible Poem Written All in my Facebook Profile Pic Description

Areas NoW in the last 45 Months Named "FB Profile Pic Bible" Just A Subchapter

of "SonG oF mY SoUL" Longest EPiC Long Form Poem Bible totaling 9.1 MiLLioN

Words Now in 91 Months As True There is Another Subchapter Bible EPiC Long

Form Poem Still continuing at 6.6 MiLLioN Words Named "Never Land Bible" in 57 Months as Sure

With Free Will From Birth With a Never Ending Story, i Kinda Never Land With 14,616 MiLes of Public

Dancing all Around the Metro Area, Named Legend and Folk Hero For that by the Metro Area also in

the last 90 Months; 2,000 Plus Selfie Photos by age 60 With the Most Beautiful Women in the Area mostly

in their Early Twenties, College Age as Such, doing that at the Biggest Area Dance Hall For 6 Years And 298

Dance Night Weeks in That 90 Months too; And True i still Leg Press Up to 1520 Pounds 3 Months Away From 61

And Let's (me) Just Say

my Martial

Arts isn't

From School

Yet it's Lightening Fast

And Will Move Leaves On Lower

Limbs as My Feet Gather Wind;

No; This Isn't 'Moron MaGiCK' it's

Real MaGiC For You see My MaGiC

Doesn't need a K, Hehe, as My Name

FredericK Already Has one Per Numerology too; hAha..

TRuE Reality is Stranger than Fiction and A Whole Lot more Fun;

The Placebo Effect Works; Some Just make it An Art and Science Like

Me To The Extreme in Human Potentials Realized

And Make

it Heaven

As i already

Went to Hell on Earth

For 66 Months to 'See and (Pain/

Numb) Hear' What That's All about too...

Yes, God YeS HEaven is Much Better than the

Negative Synchronicities and Nocebo Effects

That Are Part and Parcel of Hell On Earth Within;

Some People are of the 'DarK Force' And Are Naturally

Attracted to All Stuff Misery and Suffering including Inflicting

Pain on Self and Others too; It's a Hell of a Nocebo Effect Indeed;

And It's Real As All of this is as Natural As Leaves that Hold Trees

Falling From Green to Feed Trees to Sprout Seeds in Fertile Soil Dead Leaves Bring...

It is what it is; Choose

LiGHT Over

DarK NoW

Do 'White Magic' Placebo

Instead of 'Black Magic' Nocebo;

Wire 'Yourself' for DarK or LiGHT

And Yes Science Shows This iS how

Human Life Works too in DarK and LiGHT;

Fortune Cookies And Numerology Works in the

Feel and Sense That Folks Make them Self-Fulfilling

Prophecies through Nocebo or Placebo Effect; and It's

Worth Noting That Some Folks Are So Dead inside They Have Propensity

for Neither

Curse or Gift;

And In this Way they may

See the World as Just Random

Soup in a Cold Living Dead Meat Suit...

Life Ain't Fair; Life Ain't Fair; Some Folks Now are

TaKinG Advantage of All the 'Power-Ups', Feasting in Life; Famine For

Others Who Either Can't or Won't; And Enjoy or Suffer the Consequences...

It is what it is;

Giving Heaven

Or Hell; Heaven

IS A Better Way Within Now;

Yep, Inside, Outside, Above, So Below

And All Around And i surely Hope My Numerology

Report is Only Placebo Facilitated Otherwise i would

Feel Like i'm the Boss's Son And Not Really Earn My Heaven Now at all...

True in This

Way 'Lucifred'

Is So Much More Satisfying

BRinGinG LiGHT Instead of Nasty DarK

Stuff Like the Black Magic in 'Matthew'

of Changing Nasty Folks Who Denigrate

The Lesser From Sheep into Goats and Burning

Them Forever; True i'm a Nicer 'Magician' than that;

As i see IT; IT would/will take Real 'Psychopathic Leaning Intention' to

Even Dream that Story Up as a Ghost Author Using Matthew for Pen Name...

True though it's Like Living Life Under A Faceless Avatar; It Emboldens Folks

To Do Stuff They Would Never Say and Do In Real Life; Chances Are Folks who

Had Wives

Who Slept

In Different

Bed Rooms Wrote that Stuff;

All Frustrated; All Butt Hurt As Such...

In General Misery And Suffering Bonds

Together; In General Joy And Pleasure And

Happy Bonds

Together too...

'Second

Coming
Religion

NoW

All Mine

Within Yes

Free To Be And Do Love...

IN ALL GIVING SHARING

CARING WAYS NOW FOR REAL

WITH LEAST HARM FOR ALL

OF CREATION NOW FOR REAL

True, 'Trump And His Minions'
Are Truly A Modern Age Black MaGiC

Nocebo Misery Loves Suffering Movement

in Fear and Hate; Glad to See that DarKness Fading Away;

Yet DarK Wakes Up Lions of LoVE For Real too; Life is Good Now to: WHeRE i Am From...

Happy Spring Equinox; 3.20.2021, Always Try to Bring Gifts of Creativity on Special DayS in

White MaGiC like this...

Just more

Placebo

of Human

Potential Real MaGiC...

Oh Madame Blue; Quite A Brew Now

if only America Will Wake up and Smell the Love...

Oh By the way, Per my Birth Doctor, i was conceived on or

About the '59 Fall Equinox And Due on or about the Summer Solstice '60

Yet the Doctor Went on Vacation So He induced Labor Two Weeks Early....

Decades of Cashiers At Walmart Looking At me in Fear, 'Fundie Christians'

When i purchased An

Occasional Beer;

Afraid Then of

Three

Sixes

on my Driver's

License When Originally

i Was Forecast to Be Born as A Summer Solstice Child Instead;

True though it did give me a Mighty Fine Numerology Report;

THere IS ALWaYS A Silver Lining Even in Hell AS Heaven if ya wait

it out to Breathe Again Born Again... This Much is True 'Real God

Is Real Now Nature

oF All That Is Now'...

DarK

Thru

LiGHT
And OMG So Much More

to: Explore From: SeeKinG Finding More..:)



_________________
KATiE MiA FredericK!iI

Gravatar is one of the coolest things ever!! !

http://en.gravatar.com/katiemiafrederick


madbutnotmad
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 20 Nov 2016
Age: 52
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,678
Location: Jersey UK

20 Mar 2021, 7:18 pm

[youtube]https://www.lakeexpo.com/multimedia/videos/devil-worship---exposing-satans-underground/youtube_24984930-4862-11e6-b7ae-577cf7522cce.html[/youtube]

old documentary, quiet interesting
during the period of the 80s/90s known as the "Satanic Panic"
which was eventually portrayed as myth by law enforcement agencies

and where i do not think that all people into metal or even satanism are into ritual occult abuse
i do think that there are some among those who are into such things (including some who may work
in the police/healthcare etc. are into this. some who are also wealthy and who are perhaps
connected to the longer history of good fashioned devil worship)...