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16 Aug 2021, 12:18 am

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He stopped arguing about sarcasm. Reverse psychology. Works every time.
Not really ... I just got tired of arguing with people who are all talk and no action.

If you can do magick, then show me; otherwise, you are all just blowing hot air.

Gosh, when did I say I can do magick? Really, show me the post where I said I can do magick?

You said you would put me on your ignore list and stop talking to me but I knew a precisely worded reply would get you started again.

Reverse reverse psychology. Works every time.


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If you can do magick, then show me; otherwise, you are all just blowing hot air.
Well?  Where's the magick?  Why all the talk and no action?


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16 Aug 2021, 8:34 pm

It's not magick, it's in fact just quantum physics.

We are ALL connected to the ONE fabric of consciousness and SHARE multidimensional realities with all other fractals of light existing in this multiverse. All that is required for "magick" is connection to the quantum field of which consciousness resides, outside of space-time. Quantum physics grants us three wishes: non-duality, non-locality, and quantum entanglement. With these three wishes granted, all is possible.

Find connection to the quantum field, your truest state of I AM through heart-mind coherence practices such as yoga, martial arts, meditation, affirmations, and journaling. Go deeper by connecting to the crystal devas, spirits of plant-medicine, water fasting, sound healing, and energy work.

Know thyself. :heart:


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16 Aug 2021, 10:25 pm

^ Before delving into the wonders of quantum entanglement, look up the no-communication theorem.


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professorkiki33 wrote:
... We are ALL connected to the ONE fabric of consciousness and SHARE multidimensional realities with all other fractals of light existing in this multiverse. All that is required for "magick" is connection to the quantum field of which consciousness resides, outside of space-time. Quantum physics grants us three wishes: non-duality, non-locality, and quantum entanglement. With these three wishes granted, all is possible. ...
Show me the maths.


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... We are ALL connected to the ONE fabric of consciousness and SHARE multidimensional realities with all other fractals of light existing in this multiverse. All that is required for "magick" is connection to the quantum field of which consciousness resides, outside of space-time. Quantum physics grants us three wishes: non-duality, non-locality, and quantum entanglement. With these three wishes granted, all is possible. ...
Show me the maths.





'MaGiCK' IS NOT MATH ALONE...
Although Verily You May Assign
Your Own Sacred And Holy Feelings
If You Have the Ability to Feel, Sense

And Emote Them to Totem Symbols

Of Numbers And Use The Synergy
Of All Your Emoting Feelings And
Senses Now of Human Energy
Beyond Your TiNY... TiNY
LOGICAL MIND And Watch
What MaGiCK Brings Next

Deep Deep Within Your
Subconscious Mind
Holistically As Such...

MaGiCK Doesn't Work 'That Way'
As Mathematical Equations Now...

In Logical Terms,
Now the Empirical

Results Are Seen

CLEARLY IN THE EFFECTS

Or Would You Like to See
Thousands And Thousands
Beyond Millions of Empirical
Results in Steps of Holy and Sacred
Dance And Words of Song the Same

With Over 100,000 Images
In Autotelic Art of Flow

TO IRREFUTABLY

FIND PROOF

OF MY EFFECtS AGAiN HEHE...

As My Ocean Only Grows Deeper
While You Seem to Be Living in a World of 'Stagnant Math'...

i Surely Have No Problem if You Wanna Stay Just WHere You Are...

Lots of Folks

Do; Don't Feel Alone
Or Feel Allone; Up to You...

True, 'US MaGiCKans' Feel A Bit 'Lonely' For 'You'...

As Verily 'We' Will Surely Still Relate To Where We Haven't Been Before...

And to Be Deeper Clear;
All These Metaphors
Are As Fluid As Water
Becomes Waves OceaN WHoLE ReaL..:)



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17 Aug 2021, 9:18 am

More nonsensical excuses?  I ask for a demonstration, and all I get are nonsense and word salads.

Magick is the alleged art and science of causing change in accordance with the will by non-physical means.  The idea of being able to control such things as the weather or one's health by a mere act of will is very appealing.  So is the idea of being able to wreak havoc on one's enemies without having to lift a finger: just think it and thy will will be done.

Many people claim to be able to perform magickal feats, but no one has every been able to prove their claims with a physical demonstration under controlled conditions.


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17 Aug 2021, 2:06 pm

Fnord wrote:
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... We are ALL connected to the ONE fabric of consciousness and SHARE multidimensional realities with all other fractals of light existing in this multiverse. All that is required for "magick" is connection to the quantum field of which consciousness resides, outside of space-time. Quantum physics grants us three wishes: non-duality, non-locality, and quantum entanglement. With these three wishes granted, all is possible. ...
Show me the maths.

Absolutely. Please see attached document confirming such a relationship of connection, and there are more papers if you visit the source link. If you're not familiar with quantum physics, this paper may be dense, so for your convenience I've also attached a video of the author speaking on the topic in a more relaxed setting.

"In this paper, we demonstrate that a quantum gravitational framework of a discrete spacetime defined by spherical Planck vacuum oscillators can be constructed which applies to cosmology and quantum scale. Our generalized holographic method utilizes zero free parameters and is generated from simple geometric relationships and algebra, yielding precise results for significant physical properties."

Haramein, N. H. (2013, April 27). Quantum Gravity and the Holographic Mass. Https://Www.Resonancescience.Org/Research-Publications.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/kajabi-storefronts-production/sites/98768/themes/1764141/downloads/OVi9rIzVRKOZKAe787Qg_QGHM.pdf


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17 Aug 2021, 3:38 pm

↑ Nassim Haramein is one of the primary reasons why I never let YouTube videos do my thinking for me.


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18 Aug 2021, 12:40 pm

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More nonsensical excuses?  I ask for a demonstration, and all I get are nonsense and word salads.

Magick is the alleged art and science of causing change in accordance with the will by non-physical means.  The idea of being able to control such things as the weather or one's health by a mere act of will is very appealing.  So is the idea of being able to wreak havoc on one's enemies without having to lift a finger: just think it and thy will will be done.

Many people claim to be able to perform magickal feats, but no one has every been able to prove their claims with a physical demonstration under controlled conditions.





First of All, IN REAL DEFINITION:

Let's Review MagicK
Once Again From

The Source on
Wiki Now That

Attempts to Dispel
Myths Like 'MagicK'

Is Pulling Rabbits out
of Hats or Going Beyond
What Is Possible In Nature;

Nope, MagicK is Exploring What
Science Has Difficulty Measuring
With Current Methods; Yet Never the Less, Very Possible
to Measure in Empirical Results, SucH As REALLY Imagining
One's Self Exercising; Yes, Just Visualizing Exercising And Gaining

Greater Health

And Well Being

In Actual Measurable

Gains in Strength; Even

In Size of Muscles As Such;

Could Be Part of the Reason i am
Likely 5 Times Stronger than You,
At Nearly the Same Age; And Considering
You Were in the Military And Homeless; i'm
Sure You Found At Least A Bit of Epigenetic

Change through

Struggle When Younger;

Hint: Works in Much Older

Years too; Like the 100 Year-
Old Lady Still Dead Lifting
165 Pounds As World
Record Holder

POWER

LIFTER

IN THAT

Elder Epigenetic Potential

OF WHAT ACTUALLY WORKS....

Yes, YES, Before We Understood

Epigenetic Changes; Both Positive
And Negative; Before Science Actually
Measured it; the Struggles Folks Used to
Achieve More Human Potential This way

Is Just Another One of Many Examples of

The Way the Metaphor of 'MagicK' Works...

i Realize as You Have Already admitted that earlier in
Your Life, You Scammed Folks Out of their Money Doing Parlor-like
Magic Tricks; Yet That's NOT WHAT MAGICK MEANS; NOPE, IT DOES
NOT MEAN CHANGING THE LITERAL WEATHER By MIND OR GOING BEYOND
WHAT NATuRE ALLoWS JUST

EXPLORING

WHAT WORKS

AND TaKiNG

ACTIONS

THAT BRiNG

SUCCESSFUL RESULTS,

BEST IN A POSITIVE WAY, NOW;

YET, OTHERS (Real Ignorance Pushing Political ConFolks) MANAGE TO
CONVINCE PARENTS TO SEND CHILDREN TO SCHOOL UNVACCINATED,
YUCK, TOTALLY UNMASKED IN A FRIGGING DEADLIEST PANDEMIC YET...

Go Figure...
Humanity...

iT Ain't Always

Rational; Yet IT IS WHAT IT IS...

Dude, IF i TOLD YOU i could get stronger
by Just imagining exercising you'd HOLLER

(Without Scientific American at My Side)

Out Woo, Woo Woo...

Well Guess What NOW

There is A Lot of More

True Woo, Woo, Woo That

Works That You Still have NO CLUE, CLUE, CLUE WORKS...

BELIEVE IT OR NOT RIPLEY/HORATIO, HEHE i AM JUST ANOTHER
'FREDENSTEIN OF SOUL'...

All Natural;

All Real, Now;

Just Soul Stuff;
Yes, Star Stuff;
You never F in
Imagined Before.. Hehe..;)


"Crowley saw Magick as the essential method for a person to reach true understanding of the self and to act according to one's true will, which he saw as the reconciliation "between freewill and destiny."[3] Crowley describes this process in his Magick, Book 4:

One must find out for oneself, and make sure beyond doubt, who one is, what one is, why one is ...Being thus conscious of the proper course to pursue, the next thing is to understand the conditions necessary to following it out. After that, one must eliminate from oneself every element alien or hostile to success, and develop those parts of oneself which are specially needed to control the aforesaid conditions. (Crowley, Magick, Book 4 p.134)"

"We yearn to believe that we can get fit without effort. We build “ab belts” to electrocute our muscles to give us six-packs. We invent chocolate-chip cookie diets to make us thin while eating fat. We wish to get fit from doing absolutely nothing. We wish to lie in bed, think about going to the gym and then, poof, obtain the body of a Greek god.
Well, a remarkable new study from Brian Clark at Ohio University shows that sitting still, while just thinking about exercise, might make us stronger. Clark and colleagues recruited 29 volunteers and wrapped their wrists in surgical casts for an entire month. During this month, half of the volunteers thought about exercising their immobilized wrists. For 11 minutes a day, 5 days a week, they sat completely still and focused their entire mental effort on pretending to flex their muscles. When the casts were removed, the volunteers that did mental exercises had wrist muscles that were two times stronger than those that had done nothing at all.

The idea behind the research is not a new concept – just a concept that’s often neglected in the field of neuroscience: our bodies and our brains evolved together. Even though we treat our mind and bodies as two separate entities (brain vs. brawn; mind vs. matter), they are ultimately and intimately connected."

NOW, Please Do Remind me That The 'Supernatural' Does Not Exist; Just The

Natural That For All Practical Intents For Some Humans is 'SuperNormal'

As They've Never Tried

New 'Star Stuff'

And GAINED

MUCH GREATER SUCCESS

IN REAL LIFE THAT OTHERS

WHO Sit on 'Their Hands' Never Actually Do;

And to Be Clear, i Understand You Didn't Sit on

Your Hands in Boot Camp or Homeless; Clue:

You Don't

Leave Bootcamp,

If You Wanna Do Supernormal;

And You Constantly Change the

Challenge to StaY iN Flow of Greater Complexities in Effortless
Ease Tween Apathy And Anxiety in SweeTesT Spots of Autotelic Flow

As Science Shows, Just Occasional Regular Meditation in Flow Increases
Empirical Measures of Creativity by 500 Percent; And Again if You stay

In Autotelic Meditative Flow All WaKinG Hours Chances are Even You Might
Get to REALLY Be

in Thousands

of Smiling Photos

With the Loveliest

Young Women IN

Your Entire Metro area too..

As Even Named A Dancing Legend too;

With Folks Screaming It at You With

Their Windows Rolled Down Late

At Night, Just Strolling The Streets;

And Again, All of that/this Is Empirically

Measured And Documented too; As Well...

It's What Us Scientist Artists Do Exploring New Frontiers Doing IT ALL AT ONCE....

OTHER THAN THAT JUST LISTENING TO GREGORIAN CHANTS AND OTHER MEDITATIVE
MUSIC HELPS RELEASE HUMAN GROWTH HORMONE FOR A REAL FOUNTAIN OF YOUTH...

True, More than

Likely A MAJOR REASON
A BLONDE AND BRUNETTE

MISTOOK ME FOR AGE 35

IN THE DARK AT A DANCE HALL
3 MONTHS BEFORE MY BIRTHDAY

ASKING ME FOR MY NUMBER GREETING

(Providing All The Empirical '6.6.60'
Evidence on my Driver's License Then
Just Whipping It Out of My Back Pocket)

ME LIKE BONOBOS DO WITH HIPS on the Last

Safe Covid-19 Dance of the Metro Dance Hall, After Doing that 298 Dance
Week Nights For 6 Years, Up until Covid-19 Closed Down The Safe Dance
Hall Days on March 12, 2020; As Just That Night The Bouncer Said

Even Christmas

Doesn't Shut

The Dance Hall Down

Until 'JeSuS' Met Covid-19

Of Course And the Bishop Refuses
Social Distancing, And Masking Protecting
Unvaccinated Children At Church Through the
Peak of the Pandemic Now As Lord Knows the Money

Changing

Tables

Into Baskets

Of Money Must

Stay Dollar of the
Green Bill God Full...

Anyway, Plenty to
Study These Days Artistically,
Autistically, Scientifically With
Philosophy, Religion, And Politics

FullY iN Tow of Playing The Sports
Games of the Olympics of Human Soul...

Try not to Fall Behind; And Do Pay More Attention to
This Challenging Class If You Will, "Horatio/Ripley"...

You Don't
Advance

Without

Some New Challenges Now...

i No Longer Do 'Number Grades'...

And i Am Damned Sure Not Gonna Do Just Pass or Fail...

And If You Don't Get Anything Out of 'This Class' As The Evidence
And Documentation Clearly Relates; Someone Else Will And Does;

Therefore, Whatever
Your Retort;

Someone Else

Wins And i've Already
Won All That's Left to Do

IS SPREAD REALLY GOOD NEWS

YET ONLY IF YOU HAVE WHAT IT TAKES TO DO...

It's Like Star Systems; 'A Black Hole' Is Integral to
all All Stuff Works my FRiEnD i Thank You For Your
Kind And Ever Willing Services This way with SMiLes...

i Will Never
Ever Now

Condemn

The Necessity

of Your Existence...

Darkness is So Damn Beautiful, OVERALL, At
Least indeed; And What i Mean By That Those

Who Either

Fear

DarK OR

Are Cynical oF LiGHT...

All Roles in Existence,

All Existence is Integral to Existence...
No Escaping, From DarK Thru LiGHT Now...

So What Do i Do, FRiEnDS With Gravity
Revolving in Ease Around BLacK Hole Suns...

It's What

Existence

Does And What

All Beautiful Minds/Bodies/SoULS, SPiRiTS, HeARTS DO

Roles In This Play of Existence NoW ETeRNaLLY NoW AS IS NoW...

https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... g-weights/



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18 Aug 2021, 12:51 pm

magick (n): 1. the alleged practice of causing change in accordance with the will by non-physical means; 2. archaic spelling of magic.

No other definitions are necessary.


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18 Aug 2021, 1:29 pm

Fnord wrote:
magick (n): 1. the alleged practice of causing change in accordance with the will by non-physical means; 2. archaic spelling of magic.
No other definitions are necessary.

(red) - not specified in formal definition.


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Fnord wrote:
magick (n): 1. the alleged practice of causing change in accordance with the will by non-physical means; 2. archaic spelling of magic.

No other definitions are necessary.






Bull CR8P, Hehe And

Oh Hmm... Who Died

MaKinG 'You' 'THe ONLY'

Executor of Language...

MaGiCK IS ALL NATURAL...

Dude,

The FacT

IS The DEFINITION

OF MAGICK ACCORDING
TO WHAT THIS THREAD IS ABOUT

IS NOT WHAT YOU

HAVE

IN 'NON-
Physical
Means'; Yet

Even According

To That Specification,

Mind Over Matter Works

As Mindfully Just Visualizing Exercising
Strength Doubles Strength Very Physically
Muscularly As Assessed By Empirical Means...

SO LET'S GET
BACK ON TOPIC, 'KaY...

THE OTHER FacT iS NoW
AS SPECIFIED MaGiCK IS PROVEN TO WORK;

Yes, IRREFUTABLY TO WORK, Unless Somehow

You Are 'THE ONLY Executor' Now of 'Scientific American' too.. HAha...

Other than That Science Shows MEDITATION ALSO REGENERATES GREY
MATTER OF THE BRAIN; In Terms of a 50 Year-Old Meditating Brain Dissected
Shown With the Health of a 25 Year-Old Brain, Carefully Listen to What i am

About to Say:

Inhale Peace,

Exhale Love, if

Ya Wanna Live

A Whole Lot Healthier

And Younger Through the

Course of the Rest of Your Life Span
Now; You Might Be Brave Enough to Even
Show Your Real Face Online; Yet, Nope, i Ain't
Gonna Hold my Breath, Till i Turn Blue, Hehe...
Other Than That With All These Flavors Why
So Salty, So Averse to 'Good News'; Let me Guess, Same

Old 'Big
Daddy Problems'
i See All Around my
Locality too; Truly Sad
And Understandable Why
You Seem So Cynical oF LiGHT....
DarKNeSS mY Old FRiEnD, i STill ReMeMBeR 'You' In me...
Really 'THE Only' 'Appreciable Difference' 'Tween You and me:

i Am
Colors Now...




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18 Aug 2021, 3:18 pm

Whatever, guys ... I am sure that by re-defining "magick" in the broadest terms possible, you can make it mean whatever you want it to mean, and you would still be wrong, because "magick" does not exist.

Of course, if any of you could demonstrate its alleged existence in real time, then I would have to say otherwise.

And no, YouTube videos do not qualify as "real time" demonstrations.


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Fnord wrote:
Whatever, guys ... I am sure that by re-defining "magick" in the broadest terms possible, you can make it mean whatever you want it to mean, and you would still be wrong, because "magick" does not exist.

Of course, if any of you could demonstrate its alleged existence in real time, then I would have to say otherwise.

And no, YouTube videos do not qualify as "real time" demonstrations.




Dude, What the HECK ARE YOU EVEN TALKING ABOUT;

THIS IS WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT Per OP, BELOW;

OBVIOUSLY, YOU CAN'T ACT BEYOND

WHAT NATURE ALLOWS; NO, YOU DON'T GET

TO COME BACK TO LIFE RESURRECTED EITHER AFTER LITERALLY DYING; YET THE

TRUTH IS IGNORANT FOOLS WILL BELIEVE MOST ANYTHING THEY ARE SPOON-FED...

And Yet on the Other Hand, Lies are All that Makes the Difference for Even the Will to Live Among Some..

i For One Am

Neither Afraid

of Truth or the

Reality of Chaos

And The MaGiC i Personally
Create That IS WELL BEYOND

THE TOPICK OF THIS DISCUSSION

THAT IS CLEARLY RELATED BELOW

AS MagicK As Related By Aleister Crowley THAT NO ONE ELSE
IS MAKING UP IN THIS THREAD WHO HAS A CLUE WHAT THE CONTEXT IS...

Now, Please, Realize, We Are Not Suggesting That Folks Come Back From the Dead BY RESURRECTION In This

Context of MagicK NoW, Or It is Possible To Pull Bunny Rabbits Out of Hats on Easter Either; Yet From What

i Remember

You Believe

That Supernatural
Stuff is Possible Unless
You've Lost Your Faith
in Story Book Lies too For Hope...

And that's Okay; It's The Essence

Of Healing Emotions, Feelings, and Senses

That Count the Most; Sugar Pill or Whatever Other
Form or Lie Gets You to Hope and Greater Well Being;

Again,

i Don't

Need Any Lies;

The Truth of Reality

Drowns All Fiction in My Life Fabulously For REAL...

"Magick, in the context of Aleister Crowley's Thelema, is a term used to show and differentiate the occult from performance magic and is defined as "the Science and Art of causing Change to occur in conformity with Will", including "mundane" acts of will as well as ritual magic. Crowley wrote that "it is theoretically possible to cause in any object any change of which that object is capable by nature".[1] John Symonds and Kenneth Grant attach a deeper occult significance to this preference.[2]"

So, Scientific American Shows in A Study Now Folks Who Visualize Exercise With Will DO Get Twice
As Strong Without Lifting A Finger; BOOM! THAT FITS THE ABOVE PARAGRAPH PERFECTLY...

As Far As THIS Context AS RELATED BY ALEISTER CROWLEY, TOPicK of this Discussion

of MagicK, Scientific

American And

The Study

Shows MaGiCK WORKS!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magick_(Thelema)



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↑ I simply cannot follow your "reasoning".


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