Christian extremists disrupt a Hindu prayer

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27 Jul 2007, 6:21 am

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The AFA are just like Fred Phelp's group, probably a little less extreme.

People like that use fear on others, just like terrorists, only they make you think they're on their side.

They should know fear.....


They're conservative, and they try to preserve traditional family values. (OMGosh-I'm-so-scared!! ! :o )


They do not consider the opinions of any other group other than themselves.


Neither do the other side. Y'know..the people who think 'bigot, racist' etc automatically wins them the argument.


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27 Jul 2007, 8:01 am

Better I suppose that these Christian types just shout things at people at inappropriate moments, than take the other path and start bombing.

I propose a new crusade. We dispatch all right wing extremist christians to the middle east, where they can engage in religious war with the followers of Islam in the desert somewhere. Meanwhile the rest of the world can chill out, catch some rays, maybe have a beer or two, and get on with life without being barracked by frothing mentalists who obviously haven't actually READ the damn books they spout about.

And as for Phelps? One phrase springs to mind.. WWJD? Jesus would NEVER get tired of punching him. ...


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27 Jul 2007, 3:41 pm

Those rabid, foaming-at-the-mouth fanatics aren't Christians. They and their ilk only serve to make outsiders hate everyone who calls themself a Christian. I wouldn't do it myself, but I sure as heck wouldn't mind if put the Phelps family behind bars and anyone else who interrupts a prayer like that.

I predict the actions of these wicked impersonators will lead to a second Martyrdom.



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27 Jul 2007, 4:21 pm

Chuchulainn wrote:
Those rabid, foaming-at-the-mouth fanatics aren't Christians. They and their ilk only serve to make outsiders hate everyone who calls themself a Christian. I wouldn't do it myself, but I sure as heck wouldn't mind if put the Phelps family behind bars and anyone else who interrupts a prayer like that.

I predict the actions of these wicked impersonators will lead to a second Martyrdom.


Wow. Just like back in the good ol'
days of the reformation. Declaring that
those of differing sects aren't of the same
base religion.

Ya gotta love it.



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27 Jul 2007, 6:27 pm

calandale wrote:
Chuchulainn wrote:
Those rabid, foaming-at-the-mouth fanatics aren't Christians. They and their ilk only serve to make outsiders hate everyone who calls themself a Christian. I wouldn't do it myself, but I sure as heck wouldn't mind if put the Phelps family behind bars and anyone else who interrupts a prayer like that.

I predict the actions of these wicked impersonators will lead to a second Martyrdom.


Wow. Just like back in the good ol'
days of the reformation. Declaring that
those of differing sects aren't of the same
base religion.

Ya gotta love it.


Blas-phe-my, Blas-for-you,Blas-for-everyone! We havent had a really good heresy in years. Where are the Cathars when you need them?


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27 Jul 2007, 7:13 pm

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Blas-phe-my, Blas-for-you,Blas-for-everyone! We havent had a really good heresy in years. Where are the Cathars when you need them?


All things are light. :wink:



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28 Jul 2007, 11:09 am

As a Christian and a peacemaker, here's an article I ask you to read:
http://exchristian.net/exchristian/2007/07/why-i-believe-anti-evangelism-is-wrong.html



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28 Jul 2007, 8:18 pm

Well, it's like this tim.... Do I personally believe in religion? No, I think it's silly nonsense, **BUT** it's your right to believe in what I deem silly nonsense **as long as you don't trample my rights to believe what I believe**. No one religion is proven correct (in fact I could argue the exact opposite, that they've all been proven wrong), point is, your guess is as good as the next persons'.
I might not agree with your religion, but that does not mean we can't get along on other things. Hell we might even become the best of friends, but you believe what you believe, I believe what I believe, and never do we try to force one another to accept each others beliefs. If you think I am gonna burn in hell, let me burn in hell then. But the millions of non-Christians living in America are not guests living in a Christian nation. Your religion has no more validity than that of a Hindu or a Buddhist, or a Muslim, or a Jew, or a Pagan, or an atheist.
yes, some people do beligerantly attack Christianity, and I'm not condoning that but, this is largely a reaction from Christians (or people calling themselves Christians) who have, historically, expanded their fan base through force, hate, fear, ignorance, and oppression, and they are still doing it today. Most of them are greedy business tycoons or rednecks. They are almost all republicans, although recently the new generation of Christian extremists are looking at other political parties to hijack. These are the same people who burned "witches" at stakes, the same people who followed Hitler to slaughter the jews, the same people who refferenced "slaves obey your masters" as "justification" for slavery, and the same people who shed rivers of blood through the "holy crusades".
It's this way with muslims as well. Only due to less red tape and living in 3rd world nations, they can get away with alot more and have less checks and balances to remove. It's not any more right than the Christians though.



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29 Jul 2007, 4:34 am

Ragtime wrote:
they try to preserve traditional family values.


Current notions of euro-traditional family values are only about 100 years old.

To wit: mater, pater and their scions as a familial unit from birth to about age 18 have only been around since 1900 or so. Previous to that, children were treated much as small adults, and had very short childhoods. Plenty of evidence of that in literature, history and oil paintings.

Accusations of demagoguery aside: Norman Rockwell painted stereotypes. The huge influx of germanic and eastern europeans into North America at the turn of the century belies the WASP heritage as representing America as a homogenous unit. Here in Canada its even more pronounced; most of us did not live that 'father knows best' lifestyle. "Gee Wally, do you think dad will be mad when he finds out?"

A childhood extending into the teenage years is an artifact of the adoption/adaption of prussian military training techniques by the state regulated schools of victorian era America. The sorting of students into age delimited peer groups broke the traditional community based educational systems of the early years of settlement in north america. "Laura Ingalls, you'll be in the same grade level as Anne Shirley of Green Gables." No more one room school houses. Still, even my dad, born in 1947, attended one. The concurrency of that again breaks the notion of Homogeny across the 1900s. Rockwell illustrated his vision on a Palimpsest.

The "breaking" of the traditional family unit began in the 1960s, with a growing acceptance of divorce and agitation for abortion, reprehensible as it is. Therefore, even the cultural niche of a rockwell lifestyle lasted less than 60 years. "skating on thin ice" would be an apt response to one wanting to call it "traditional" in any sort of way.