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13 Oct 2021, 4:50 am

It’s good to be “light” sometimes.

“Heaviness” and solemnity really get on my nerves.



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13 Oct 2021, 5:22 am

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Only a true partisan would think (or FEEL) that having the gatekeepers of people's main sources of access to information (which would be needed by the public to make an informed decision) tilting the scales to favor a given side was a good thing, regardless of the "reason"/justification given. Someone who was not partisan (yet favoured that side) would have simply said "I understand why they acted as they did (and am thankful for this), but the actions were still wrong", not seek to justify the acts as being "for the good of the country" and so feel them justified\acceptable.


There is some nuance here you all seem to be missing. I never said it was a “good” thing. I’ve always said I was uncomfortable with how it all occurred and played out. Did I feel overall life turned out OK because of all factors present in the moment? That I do; I think for this one time a bad approach may have gotten to the result it needed to in the short term. Long term is still unknown, and there is a big risk of backfiring. I am quite clear we have to solve all the surrounding issues before finding ourselves in such a situation again. It wasn’t handled right but we also don’t have any mechanism in place that we all agree would be better. We need to have those conversations. That is key, not arguing about what my personal feelings mean. What happened is closed and done, it really doesn’t matter how I feel about the end result, because I don’t want the process to repeat. If you think I do, you’ve misread me.

How will you solve the disinformation crisis? What would you do?

You can’t call me partisan but offer nothing at all. At least I try. I put myself out there. I have yet to see you do the same. Propose a solution instead of pushing me on something closed and done.


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13 Oct 2021, 5:53 am

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Well being called a liar is a fairly strong accusation.


I've given you multiple opportunities to refute the claim, but you continue to tap-dance because you cannot refute what is true. It hurts you too bad to admit when you don't know what you're talking about, so you make things up, and then you pretend not to understand when the questions start. It's actually pretty trollish when you get down to it.


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13 Oct 2021, 6:56 am

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It's actually pretty trollish when you get down to it.


Or ... two people who don't know how to talk to each other. Something to consider.

The difference is the level of intention.

Even if the result on your side (frustration) feels exactly the same.

(I'm not really expressing that well, but hope you can figure it out)


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13 Oct 2021, 8:09 am

Brictoria wrote:
DW_a_mom wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
DW_a_mom wrote:
Personally I think they did what they had to do for the good of the country in the heat of the election, but I also completely understand why you would strongly disagree.


Spoken like every political assassin in history, and I'm sure you'd have a different tune if this had gone the other way.


Partisanship:
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partisanship
/ˈpɑːtɪz(ə)nʃɪp/

noun: partisanship

prejudice in favour of a particular cause; bias.
"an act of blatant political partisanship"


Unnecessary and insanely annoying.

Do you understand the meaning of "personally"? I expressed a FEELING, not a fact, and not an argument that I thought ANYONE ELSE needed to agree with. That's about as far from shoving anything down anyone's throat as possible. Am I not allowed to occasionally have a FEELING that I've already said I don't expect others to necessarily agree with? Read the way I worded that. Then read it again. I wasn't advocating for anything.

You don't need to chime in with taunts of "partisanship;" FEELINGS don't have to meet any standard of any sort at all.


Being partisan isn't about advocating\pushing your views on another (as you appear to be attempting to imply), but is about "my side, right or wrong", or a belief that (regarding their side's actions) "the ends justify the means"...

In this case it was demonstrated throught the FEELING that having tech, media, and entertaniment industries all putting their thumb on the scales in favour of one particular side was OK because you FEEL it was "what they had to do for the good of the country", in the full knowledge that those who were not on the same side would not see it that way (and that you would likely have been offended had they acted to favor the other side, despite the partisans on that side who would have felt that it was "what they had to do for the good of the country").

Only a true partisan would think (or FEEL) that having the gatekeepers of people's main sources of access to information (which would be needed by the public to make an informed decision) tilting the scales to favor a given side was a good thing, regardless of the "reason"/justification given. Someone who was not partisan (yet favoured that side) would have simply said "I understand why they acted as they did (and am thankful for this), but the actions were still wrong", not seek to justify the acts as being "for the good of the country" and so feel them justified\acceptable.


Some people simply can't maintain an objective mindset, and they project their own biased thinking environment onto others.
Some people a very odd. 8)



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13 Oct 2021, 8:12 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
It’s good to be “light” sometimes.

“Heaviness” and solemnity really get on my nerves.


I was under the impression lighthearted socialising was verboten. :scratch:



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13 Oct 2021, 8:15 am

Dox47 wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
Well being called a liar is a fairly strong accusation.


I've given you multiple opportunities to refute the claim, but you continue to tap-dance because you cannot refute what is true. It hurts you too bad to admit when you don't know what you're talking about, so you make things up, and then you pretend not to understand when the questions start. It's actually pretty trollish when you get down to it.


Some people are more interested in point-scoring than in having a discussion.
I tend to avoid "some people". 8)