Glad I Don't Live In America.
All states in the US are honestly a mix of both conservative and liberal ideals despite the red and blue labels. In red states you usually have more liberal people who stick with bigger cities like for example Atlanta here in Georgia which is considered very liberal.
And in blue states you still have conservatives who stick to the more rural areas like in Upstate New York (or so I've heard, honestly I've never been to New York so I wouldnt know for sure.)
But how are civil wars fought though in other instances, since two groups of people are always mixed througout a country? What makes other civil wars different in terms of groups fighting?
In the last American Civil War there was a clearly define line drawn between the northern states and the southern states.
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All states in the US are honestly a mix of both conservative and liberal ideals despite the red and blue labels. In red states you usually have more liberal people who stick with bigger cities like for example Atlanta here in Georgia which is considered very liberal.
And in blue states you still have conservatives who stick to the more rural areas like in Upstate New York (or so I've heard, honestly I've never been to New York so I wouldnt know for sure.)
But how are civil wars fought though in other instances, since two groups of people are always mixed througout a country? What makes other civil wars different in terms of groups fighting?
In the last American Civil War there was a clearly define line drawn between the northern states and the southern states.
Every state of the Confederacy except South Carolina committed troops to the Union cause. And the line wasn't so clear in states like Kentucky, Missouri, and Maryland.
All states in the US are honestly a mix of both conservative and liberal ideals despite the red and blue labels. In red states you usually have more liberal people who stick with bigger cities like for example Atlanta here in Georgia which is considered very liberal.
And in blue states you still have conservatives who stick to the more rural areas like in Upstate New York (or so I've heard, honestly I've never been to New York so I wouldnt know for sure.)
But how are civil wars fought though in other instances, since two groups of people are always mixed througout a country? What makes other civil wars different in terms of groups fighting?
In the last American Civil War there was a clearly define line drawn between the northern states and the southern states.
Every state of the Confederacy except South Carolina committed troops to the Union cause. And the line wasn't so clear in states like Kentucky, Missouri, and Maryland.
Again, What's your point Vanessa?
The last American Civil War was clearly a war between Southern states and Northern states.
A new Civil War will not be so easily divided in this country. Period.
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Side note - The American civil war really started as a border war between Missouri and the Kansas territory in 1856. The majority of people living in Kansas did not want slavery to be allowed in that area. Missouri was a slave state and wanted to be able to sell slaves for a profit in neighboring states. It lead to very bloody confrontations back and forth across the boarder of the two areas. It continued even when Kansas became a free state in 1861, the same year that Fort Sumpter was attacked. Most people do not know about that part of the war, as it was on the western frontier at the time.
https://civilwaronthewesternborder.org/timeline
Back to the original topic at hand.
Oh okay. Well why do the democrats and repblicans hate each other so much? Can't they just agree to disagree and live their lives peacefully without turning everything into a p@$#ing contest? For a very random example, I don't agree with other people's politics sometimes, but I don't go rioting and trying to shove my views down their throats? Why turn it it all into a p@!sing contest?
That's a very good question actually. I would like to know this too?
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Indeed. We are a nation of hypocrites on so many levels like you would not believe.
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Well another thing, is why do Americans have to identify themselves as either democrats or republicans? If they just choose their own believes and choose to be themselves, wouldn't there be a lot less of a contest between the two, if people would just choose not to classify themselves, like that?
Good luck, if you try that, people will constantly try to fit you into their boxes, they have a very hard time with people who don't square up neatly with one side or the other. My entire time on WP, 13 years now, has been spent in large part fighting against the risible accusation that I must be a Republican because I criticize Democrats, because people here literally cannot conceptualize someone who truly doesn't belong to either party and makes up their own mind issue by issue. Thinking for yourself is hard, and most people aren't very good at it.
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Oh okay. Well some of the politics I agree with are more conservative and some I agree with are more liberal. I mean just because I am for socialized free health care, doesn't mean that I also have to be for defunding the police for example.
But if I have beliefs from both sides, how would either side classify me then?
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He ended the ACA mandate that targeted poor people who could not afford health insurance.
Yes and I agreed with that. IMO Obama is a prime example of the wrong kind of Democrat namely a Socialist Progressive pretending to be one. The ACA wasn't affordable care, just a mandate to have health insurance.
everybody conveniently leaves out the generous subsidies for those with limited income. when i qualified i paid less than $50/month for a basic plan that would have cost me over 4 figures on the private market. in fact, somebody with my health issues would not have been sold a plan for any price even if i could have afforded such.
Back in the 80s my family had no insurance, and I know we could never have afforded Obamacare. We would have just lost my father's refund every year too. I don't believe in taxation or fines for the purpose of social engineering or forcing people to do things your way. Also there are people who don't believe in modern medicine and this forces them to pay for it.
so as far as you're concerned, i can just die then. fine.
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because there is a vast difference between the two parties. the democrats work to help average folk, the GOP hate average folk and work just to benefit their own wealthy selves.
One of the mysteries of the universe.
But I'll give you a hint: Over zealous emotional engagement.
Emotions distort reality and reason flys out the window when feelings take priority.
I have never seen the like, in regard to the number of people embracing hyperpartisanship.
We have extremists here in Australia, but they are relatively few, compared to what has happened in America.
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