Sanjay Gupta admits lies surrounding horse dewormer

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The majority of people with Covid don't die from it. Rogan happened to have been one of those.
My family and I all got the Covid vaccine, and none of us have become magnetic, or have gotten the virus from the shot, or had our DNA altered so Christ can't raise us on the Last Day, or any of the insane things the anti-vaxx right has attributed to the vaccine.

Have you ever actually listened to his podcast? What specific misinformation? He's not a journalist anyway, he's just a podcast host, so it's not like he's expected to be super accurate to begin with, but even so. Do you even know his position on COVID and vaccines?

You're being obstinate for the sake of winning an argument. Even if dewormer is prescribed to humans, so what? Covid19 isn't a parasite, and so the stuff is useless.

a) Do you have access to his medical charts to know why it was prescribed or are you assuming his doctor was an idiot? (Which brings us back to the slander at hand).

b) Did it harm him? NO.

c) If you or someone you love was seriously ill with any illness and a licensed doctor prescribed several FDA-approved medications to save your life, would you say no and refuse treatment?

d) Please note that the Covid vaccines weren't FDA approved when everyone took them.

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The fact that people hang on his every word, at the expense of listening to actual medical professionals, says he's a dangerous source of misinformation. To say that his show is just a podcast and so doesn't matter if he's right or not is incredibly irresponsible. Would you feel any differently if he told people that swallowing broken glass was healthy?

People have died from taking the dewormer animal paste, after going to animal supply stores rather than getting the medical prescription.

I don't hang on his every word. I think he's hot (lol), and I like the way he thinks.

I've seen him speak for maybe two hours in my entire life.

I didn't even know he was considered "right wing" until this thread.

If believing in freedom of thought, freedom of choice, freedom of expression, freedom of self-determination, and freedom of belief makes a person right wing, I must be living on the wrong planet.

I was raised to believe personal liberty was a good thing.

.... and?

What does that have to do with a person taking human-form IVM with a licensed doctor's supervision, in addition to other medications that saved their life?

Projecting much? I'm not being obstinate, I'm demonstrating that CNN lied, which you are refusing to accept. I think there's a word for that, refusing to accept something in the face of overwhelming evidence.



Irrelevant, the argument isn't about whether Ivermectin is effective against COVID, it's about whether CNN lied when they said Rogan took horse dewormer, which he did not, he took human Ivermectin pills, as my picture show should have made clear to you at this point.

Also, Ivermectin was a human medicine first so referring to it as dewormer is incorrect and misleading; don't you claim to have a problem with the spreading of misleading information?

Evidence for anything you just said? I'm also going to take that as a no, you've never actually listened to him, and a bingo on you not having any specific claims to misinformation he has spread as well.

Source?

He isn't, liberals just hate him because he has a large platform and they can't control him, it's like the rage they have towards Substack and Rumble, they loathe anyone who doesn't toe the party line who they can't bring to heel.

If CNN wanted to play a role in this story at all, they should have made a statement such as:

"We understand that Joe Rogan is sick with Covid. Our thoughts and wishes are with him at this time and we wish him a speedy recovery."

If JR later discussed his use of IVM as one medication dispensed by the hospital and by his state-licensed doctor, and CNN felt this was dangerous, they might have run information ads to differentiate horse paste from human prescriptions. A public awareness campaign could have educated people and / or prohibited vet supply vendors from selling the drug without a veterinary prescription. They could have clarified this without insinuating that JR is an idiot, his doctor is a quack, or that he put public safety at risk by naming his meds.

At the time Rogan used Ivermectin and Prednisolone both drugs were prescription but not restricted. This means you can ask your GP to prescribe these for you and the GP won't get in any trouble with regulatory bodies.

Now there are restrictions applied and while GPs can still prescribe these there is more scrutiny and possible action if a GP prescribes without proper checks.

I noticed Rogan was also championing the benefits of Prednisolone for curing his COVID, I'm afraid that's also misinformation. The journal article Rogan used to support his arguments was based on trials on severe lung infections where the patient is hospitalised and oxygen was required. In those severe cases cortisone based medication can help in survival (this is similar to the types of drugs given to severe asthmatics who are having an episode in hospital). There is no evidence that in mild symptoms (Like Rogans) it has any clinical benefit and according to medical specialists it is actually more dangerous beyond a certain dosage than taking no Prednisolone.

This underlines why its dangerous for non-qualified people to be giving medical advice (Rogan has 11 million followers) as Rogan doesn't understand how to interpret medical studies. Have you wondered why public posts promoting the use of alternative therapies for COVID have been removed from Twitter and facebook? it's dangerous advice,

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I don't hate him?

Thanks for clarifying. I'm not American and I don't follow politics or ascribe to any political agenda, except for human rights and personal freedom.

People fight for women's right to abortion because it's understood that people should be free to control their own body, and make medical decisions in their own best interest. I thought that was a (predominantly) left-wing opinion?

What about assisted suicide? Isn't that more left-wing? It's the person's body, and the person's choice.

What about freedom of religion, freedom of assembly, freedom of speech, freedom of gender identity and sexual orientation, among other liberties?

Aren't they left-wing?

In keeping with these beliefs in human sovereignty and personal autonomy being "Liberal", I don't understand why a person who chooses to take a medication prescribed by their doctor, in a hospital setting, is denied this agency and considered a redneck, right-wing fool.

They don't have rights? They don't have agency?

I'll never understand American politics or rhetoric, so I guess I'm out.