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05 Nov 2021, 3:07 pm

Rep. Anthony Gonzalez has a warning for his fellow Republicans: former President Donald Trump will try to steal the next election.  With Trump appearing to prepare for another presidential run in 2024, Gonzalez told CNN he will try to stop Trump from running the same 2020 playbook to overturn another election, but he warned that Trump could have more help next time from those in charge of running -- and certifying -- elections.  "January 6 was an unconstitutional attempt led by the President of the United States to overturn an American election and reinstall himself in power illegitimately.  That's fallen nation territory, that's third world country territory. My family left Cuba to avoid that fate. I will not let it happen here," Gonzalez said.

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05 Nov 2021, 3:16 pm

He’s like some sort of antibiotic resistant STD.


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05 Nov 2021, 3:27 pm

I hope that he does. He has stated that he would probably run as an Independent (or create his own party like "Make America Great Again) I feel this would insure democrats a victory as it would split up the normal republican vote. I feel democrats should encourage Trump to run again.



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05 Nov 2021, 4:11 pm

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I hope that he does. He has stated that he would probably run as an Independent (or create his own party like "Make America Great Again) I feel this would insure democrats a victory as it would split up the normal republican vote. I feel democrats should encourage Trump to run again.
You do have a valid point.  However, "Anyone Other Than Trump" will work only if the alternative to Trump is no worse.



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05 Nov 2021, 5:22 pm

Fnord wrote:
Aspinator wrote:
I hope that he does. He has stated that he would probably run as an Independent (or create his own party like "Make America Great Again) I feel this would insure democrats a victory as it would split up the normal republican vote. I feel democrats should encourage Trump to run again.
You do have a valid point.  However, "Anyone Other Than Trump" will work only if the alternative to Trump is no worse.
Ron DeSantis is rumored to throw his hat in the ring. He'd be just as bad as Trump.



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08 Nov 2021, 9:40 pm

Misslizard wrote:
He’s like some sort of antibiotic resistant STD.


Like most politicians. :mrgreen:



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08 Nov 2021, 9:42 pm

Aspinator wrote:
I hope that he does. He has stated that he would probably run as an Independent (or create his own party like "Make America Great Again) I feel this would insure democrats a victory as it would split up the normal republican vote. I feel democrats should encourage Trump to run again.


I gather America doesn't have a voting "Preference" system, as we have in Australia? :scratch:



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08 Nov 2021, 10:25 pm

nationally that is a bit too much nuance for amuuuricans per se, but there are a few pockets of smart people here who do have a ranked polling option.



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08 Nov 2021, 10:33 pm

Tross wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Aspinator wrote:
I hope that he does. He has stated that he would probably run as an Independent (or create his own party like "Make America Great Again) I feel this would insure democrats a victory as it would split up the normal republican vote. I feel democrats should encourage Trump to run again.
You do have a valid point.  However, "Anyone Other Than Trump" will work only if the alternative to Trump is no worse.
Ron DeSantis is rumored to throw his hat in the ring. He'd be just as bad as Trump.


I heard he isn’t running.

Kristi Noem, governor of South Dakota, is supposedly running as well. Greg Abbott is also allegedly running (lord help us)


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09 Nov 2021, 1:40 am

If the election were held today, he wouldn't have to steal it, his numbers are better than Biden's.


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09 Nov 2021, 2:53 am

Tim_Tex wrote:
Tross wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Aspinator wrote:
I hope that he does. He has stated that he would probably run as an Independent (or create his own party like "Make America Great Again) I feel this would insure democrats a victory as it would split up the normal republican vote. I feel democrats should encourage Trump to run again.
You do have a valid point.  However, "Anyone Other Than Trump" will work only if the alternative to Trump is no worse.
Ron DeSantis is rumored to throw his hat in the ring. He'd be just as bad as Trump.


I heard he isn’t running.

Kristi Noem, governor of South Dakota, is supposedly running as well. Greg Abbott is also allegedly running (lord help us)

well I dont know about Abbott being viable to become our next president because I think Abbott has bigger fish to fry at home in Texas because he prolly wont be president if he loses to Beto.I think he has to win the Republican Primary and beat Beto to have a shot at being our next president.



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09 Nov 2021, 10:05 am

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If the election were held today, he wouldn't have to steal it, his numbers are better than Biden's.

Agreed. I think he would win relatively comfortably. The last poll I saw had a 2020 rematch as even. I take whatever the polls say and add 4 to 5 points to the Republican candidate. A Trump win would say more about the democrats then Trump.

Absolutely he would try and steal the election he won.


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09 Nov 2021, 10:38 am

I just hope the EU will create it's own army and develop our own nuclear weapons to defend ourselves against Russian or Chinese invasion.

We can't count on help from the U.S. again. U.S. is no better than Russia, as I fear U.S. with the new Trump administration will ally with Russia and leave NATO.

The majority of Americans have already spoken: No to democracy, no to liberty - yes to dictatorship.



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09 Nov 2021, 1:07 pm

the amuuurican populace has been systematically dumbed-down, and we are seeing the end game of the PTB right now.



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09 Nov 2021, 1:17 pm



It's True It's A Good Thing America
Isn't Having An Election Today As

The Folks, Overall, Are So Spoiled
And Ignorant They Can't Even See

The Value of Our Democracy and
The Fact That Trump Played A Role
In A Deadly Insurrection to Destroy

The Democratic Process of Fair Elections
And Peaceful Transitions of Power Integral
To Any Democracy's Success or Failure And At

Least at that Point in Time the Senate Majority Leader
And the House Minority Leader Placed The Blame on Trump
As Easily Justified Now As Well Except For Those Who Continue

To Be Worried About Kissing Trump's Butt or Losing Their Places of Power
Where Even Blind Eyes Are Turned By Most of the Republican Party That We

Have Close To Failing Grades As Assessed on this Country's Infrastructure Falling
Apart Saved in Part By An Infrastructure Plan Finally Passed While Again Ignorant
Sources of News Like the Fox News Station Decries It Was A Negative Result to

Repair our Nation's

Infrastructure and
Create Millions of
Jobs to Do So Where

Actually the Poorest Among
Us That Include So Many of the
'Trump Style Republican Party' Will
Benefit the Most Yet It's True Good Things

Come From Struggle With Biden's Low Approval
Polls Comes Even A Greater Fire Under The Butts of
Democrats to Pass the Build Back Better Act Next Week

And No Matter What Happens in Politics at Least if We
Don't Lose Our Democracy The Benefits of that including

Millions More Covered By Health Insurance, Existing Subsidies
Lasting For 5 More Years, Child Health Care, Kindergarten,
Improvements to Medicare, Elder Care, New More Affordable Housing,
And Repairs to Existing Public Housing, And More, Will Be The Legacy

Of This Biden Administration No Matter What Happens to the Next Presidential
Election With Of Course For Folks With Any Common Sense of What is Actually Good
For Themselves And The Country As Whole Should Reward The Party By Continuing it

That Makes
LIFE BETTER
FOR REAL
FOR THEM

NOW

NOW

NOW

Yet, Sadly Humans

Don't Always Do What Benefits

Them; Instead They Do Whatever
The Group Lead Authority instructs
Them to Do Binding And Bonding Over

Stuff As Nuts

As Believing

The After Life

Is Better Than This Life

Yet Of Course For the Folks

Who Only Believe This Life S88KS

Now it Works, It Works, As Long As You

Can Keep Folks Down; Therefore, The Religion
That Continues of Misery Loves Company and Suffering Most

Now Looking

Forward

To After

Death More than Life Now;

And Politicians Take All the
Advantage They Will Over this Ignorance

Yet The Problem Now Is They Have Unleashed
A Monster on the Democratic Process They May Not

Be Able to

Fit Back

In The

Cage of the
Night of Misery and
Suffering For Now they

Are Out in Broad Daylight For Everyone
To See How Ugly Ignorance Will Surely Breathe....

Do Understand 'This Sentence' Never Ends For Them....

Some of US Are Free

Enjoying the

Peace Without

A Care in Heaven Now

Yes As Long As The Garden

Of Eden on Earth Stays iNTact At Least for me....

NAKED, WHOLE, COMPLETE, LOVE ENOUGH

ETERNALLY

NOW...

Yawn...

IT'S THE MOST
BEAUTIFUL CRISP
CLEAR BLUE SKY FALL
DAY EVER NOW SO YES!

*Eve Pass the Popcorn...

*The Natives Are Still Restless...

*SO GOES the Human Condition...

*IT Moves FAST... CATCH IT (LOVE)
*IF YOU CAN... AND WILL... FREE... NOW

And Yes for Now, i'm EXTREMELY Disappointed
IN Many Americans FOR The Spoiled Nature they
Show For this Great Gift of Democracy We Have

Yet You Know What

'They' Say When

'Rome' Falls

Ya Rise

Differently to Survive...

LooKING AROUND Yes
PARADISE DON'T MiND FOR NOW



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09 Nov 2021, 8:02 pm

thinkinginpictures wrote:
I just hope the EU will create it's own army and develop our own nuclear weapons to defend ourselves against Russian or Chinese invasion.

We can't count on help from the U.S. again. U.S. is no better than Russia, as I fear U.S. with the new Trump administration will ally with Russia and leave NATO.

The majority of Americans have already spoken: No to democracy, no to liberty - yes to dictatorship.


you don't just invade Europe, coming from China - you can't just conquer Russia on your way to Europe. The Siberian Steppe in winter is a nice Buffer against any invading army.
Russia doesn't have the means to invade Europe - it's a mafia regime,not a dictatorship with a soviet-union-sized army.

Europe and Russia together would howrver pose a threat to everyone, the US and China. European tech and Russian resources...
So even if Russia decided to invade Europe, the US and China have incentive to intervene. I imagine them collaborating and the everything turns into a cold war, after tge common enemy is defeated, like after ww2


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