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16 Dec 2021, 10:46 pm

Where I Live, No One Cares About COVID

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In November, my wife asked me whether I had seen an article with the remarkable headline “Is It Safe to Go to Thanksgiving Dinner?”

“Is that from last year?” I asked.

“No, it’s a few days old,” she said, her voice sinking to a growling murmur. “These people.”

As Christmas approaches, we can look forward to more of this sort of thing, with the meta-ethical speculation advanced to an impossibly baroque stage of development. Is it okay for our 2-year-old son to hug Grandma at a Christmas party if she received her booster only a few days ago? Should the toddler wear a mask except when he is slopping mashed potatoes all over his booster seat? Our oldest finally attended her first (masked) sleepover with other fully vaccinated 10-year-olds, but one of them had a sibling test positive at day care. Should she stay home or wear a face shield? What about Omicron?

I don’t know how to put this in a way that will not make me sound flippant: No one cares. Literally speaking, I know that isn’t true, because if it were, the articles wouldn’t be commissioned. But outside the world inhabited by the professional and managerial classes in a handful of major metropolitan areas, many, if not most, Americans are leading their lives as if COVID is over, and they have been for a long while.

In my part of rural southwest Michigan, and in similar communities throughout the country, this is true not despite but without any noticeable regard for cases; hospitalization statistics, which are always high this time of year without attracting much notice; or death reports. I don’t mean to deny COVID’s continuing presence. (For the purposes of this piece, I looked up the COVID data for my county and found that the seven-day average for positive tests is as high as it has ever been, and that 136 deaths have been attributed to the virus since June 2020.) What I wish to convey is that the virus simply does not factor into my calculations or those of my neighbors, who have been forgoing masks, tests (unless work imposes them, in which case they are shrugged off as the usual BS from human resources), and other tangible markers of COVID-19’s existence for months—perhaps even longer.

Indeed, in my case, when I say for a long while,I mean for nearly two years, from almost the very beginning. In 2020, I took part in two weddings, traveled extensively, took family vacations with my children, spent hundreds of hours in bars and restaurants, all without wearing a mask. This year my wife and I welcomed our fourth child. Over the course of her pregnancy, from the first phone call to the midwife a few months after getting a positive pregnancy test until after delivery, the subject of the virus was never raised by any health-care professional, including her doula, a dear friend from New York.

Meanwhile, our children, who have continued to attend their weekly homeschooling co-op since April 2020, have never donned masks, and they are distinctly uncomfortable on the rare occasions when they see them, for reasons that, until recently, child psychologists and other medical experts would have freely acknowledged.

The CDC recommends that all adults get a booster shot; I do not know a single person who has received one. When I read headlines like “Here’s Who May Need a Fourth COVID-19 Vaccine Dose,” I find myself genuinely reeling. Wait, there are four of them now?

Prescinding from the question of whether there was ever any meaningful evidence in favor of outdoor transmission, let me point out that until I found myself in Washington, D.C., on a work trip in March, I had never seen anyone wearing a mask outside. For someone who had never worn one in any situation, it was bizarre to find thousands of people indifferently donning these garments outdoors, including those walking alone or in pairs at night after leaving bars or restaurants where they had presumably taken them off.

I came away from this experience with the impression that, whatever their value, masks long ago transcended public health and became a symbol, not unlike in this house we believe signs or MAGA hats.


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16 Dec 2021, 11:31 pm

Daily cases have TRIPLED in NYC in a month. It’s still mostly the Delta Variant.



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17 Dec 2021, 4:39 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
Daily cases have TRIPLED in NYC in a month. It’s still mostly the Delta Variant.


Yes, the numbers are worse, but without the initial mandates/precautions it may seem less severe.



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17 Dec 2021, 5:47 am

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Where I Live, No One Cares About COVID
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In November, my wife asked me whether I had seen an article with the remarkable headline “Is It Safe to Go to Thanksgiving Dinner?”

“Is that from last year?” I asked.

“No, it’s a few days old,” she said, her voice sinking to a growling murmur. “These people.”

As Christmas approaches, we can look forward to more of this sort of thing, with the meta-ethical speculation advanced to an impossibly baroque stage of development. Is it okay for our 2-year-old son to hug Grandma at a Christmas party if she received her booster only a few days ago? Should the toddler wear a mask except when he is slopping mashed potatoes all over his booster seat? Our oldest finally attended her first (masked) sleepover with other fully vaccinated 10-year-olds, but one of them had a sibling test positive at day care. Should she stay home or wear a face shield? What about Omicron?

I don’t know how to put this in a way that will not make me sound flippant: No one cares. Literally speaking, I know that isn’t true, because if it were, the articles wouldn’t be commissioned. But outside the world inhabited by the professional and managerial classes in a handful of major metropolitan areas, many, if not most, Americans are leading their lives as if COVID is over, and they have been for a long while.

In my part of rural southwest Michigan, and in similar communities throughout the country, this is true not despite but without any noticeable regard for cases; hospitalization statistics, which are always high this time of year without attracting much notice; or death reports. I don’t mean to deny COVID’s continuing presence. (For the purposes of this piece, I looked up the COVID data for my county and found that the seven-day average for positive tests is as high as it has ever been, and that 136 deaths have been attributed to the virus since June 2020.) What I wish to convey is that the virus simply does not factor into my calculations or those of my neighbors, who have been forgoing masks, tests (unless work imposes them, in which case they are shrugged off as the usual BS from human resources), and other tangible markers of COVID-19’s existence for months—perhaps even longer.

Indeed, in my case, when I say for a long while,I mean for nearly two years, from almost the very beginning. In 2020, I took part in two weddings, traveled extensively, took family vacations with my children, spent hundreds of hours in bars and restaurants, all without wearing a mask. This year my wife and I welcomed our fourth child. Over the course of her pregnancy, from the first phone call to the midwife a few months after getting a positive pregnancy test until after delivery, the subject of the virus was never raised by any health-care professional, including her doula, a dear friend from New York.

Meanwhile, our children, who have continued to attend their weekly homeschooling co-op since April 2020, have never donned masks, and they are distinctly uncomfortable on the rare occasions when they see them, for reasons that, until recently, child psychologists and other medical experts would have freely acknowledged.

The CDC recommends that all adults get a booster shot; I do not know a single person who has received one. When I read headlines like “Here’s Who May Need a Fourth COVID-19 Vaccine Dose,” I find myself genuinely reeling. Wait, there are four of them now?

Prescinding from the question of whether there was ever any meaningful evidence in favor of outdoor transmission, let me point out that until I found myself in Washington, D.C., on a work trip in March, I had never seen anyone wearing a mask outside. For someone who had never worn one in any situation, it was bizarre to find thousands of people indifferently donning these garments outdoors, including those walking alone or in pairs at night after leaving bars or restaurants where they had presumably taken them off.

I came away from this experience with the impression that, whatever their value, masks long ago transcended public health and became a symbol, not unlike in this house we believe signs or MAGA hats.
8O

But that's how my parents seem to be thinking, too. Like it's all about symbols and allegiance.
Like it wasn't real, like the hospitals running low on staff and oxygen and people dying in numbers not recorded since WWII were just a made up story.
And they take pride in ignoring it, seeing public health precautions as political manifests and nothing more.
Prideful ignorance. Humans are crazy.

PS - of course I got my booster shot. I don't want to risk ending up in a hospital in current state of our hospitals.


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17 Dec 2021, 8:20 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
Daily cases have TRIPLED in NYC in a month. It’s still mostly the Delta Variant.

Mostly Delta but as I linked to in the Omicron thread the New York and New Jersey region leads the nation with 13 percent of new cases Omicron.

Here it is not like where the writer lives, we still have plenty of people that wear masks outdoors with nobody around. But still the Hochul put in a indoor mask mandate but made it optional for the localities to enforce it and 13 counties took her up on it and won’t enforce it including where I live. Here it won’t be like where the writer lives, but even here people are starting to think, “I did everything they asked, I likely won’t get severe disease, I can’t do this the rest of my life, why are they shutting stuff down again for an appearently less lethal variant?” The politicians see and that is why this “mandate” is de facto optional. Mitigation is going to became more and more a personal choice. There will always be the Felix Unger’s of the world and there are many more of them now but most can not mentally and financially sustain that and neither can the economy.

It is confusing, will the very rapid spread of Omicron overcome the apparent lower severity to cause the hospitals to be overwhelmed? Even if it is weak like a bad cold or the flu should we take into account debilitating Long Covid(which might actually be Perminant Covid)? Will Long Covid even be a thing with Omicron?


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17 Dec 2021, 8:25 am

I'm hoping Omicron is the start of COVID being just like the other coronaviruses. We shall see what the future holds as far as hospitalizations are concerned. NYC is the hospital capital of the country, probably; so far, they haven't been overwhelmed.

When hospitalizations start going up rapidly, this will cause more restrictions to be imposed.



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17 Dec 2021, 8:35 am

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I'm hoping Omicron is the start of COVID being just like the other coronaviruses. We shall see what the future holds as far as hospitalizations are concerned. NYC is the hospital capital of the country, probably; so far, they haven't been overwhelmed.

When hospitalizations start going up rapidly, this will cause more restrictions to be imposed.

I too am hoping that Omicron (tentatively looking like a milder strain) will displace more serious variants and signal the end of this horrible mess.


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17 Dec 2021, 8:43 am

This has been the case in the UK also, since Bojo prematurely shot his wad on 'Freedom Day' back in June. People thought it was all over and behaved accordingly. It's also made it very hard to convince people that measures to control Omicron are necessary now. 'Let her rip' is the man in the street's opinion.

What people aren't getting is that while Omicron may well be milder, it's many times more transmissable and even if a lower percentage require hospitalisation than Delta, the increased infection numbers may still result in a health service that has no capacity to deal with either covid sufferers or the people who would normally need beds for treatment unrelated to covid. In the UK that's an NHS that's already got a massive backlog of patients waiting for life-saving treatments including cancer screenings and regularly sees patients in beds in corridors during the winter just from normal flu viruses. It could well be carnage.

Omicron has already become the dominant strain in Scotland and London in a couple of short weeks. It'll be dominant across the UK before Christmas and it's estimated to be dominant in the US by the end of January if rates continue.

Even if it's milder, it's still serious and people need to take it seriously.


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17 Dec 2021, 4:17 pm

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This has been the case in the UK also, since Bojo prematurely shot his wad on 'Freedom Day' back in June. People thought it was all over and behaved accordingly. It's also made it very hard to convince people that measures to control Omicron are necessary now. 'Let her rip' is the man in the street's opinion.

It's even harder now the Xmas party scandal has hit the fan and a by-election has shown how passionately the public wants to kick them out. I think another factor is a kind of health-and-safety fatigue among the public. People are sick to death of having to worry about Covid. I don't think they necessarily disbelieve the danger. They just desperately want their lives back, and it's getting to the point where they'd sooner throw caution to the wind to achieve that. Sometimes, for two pins I think I'd do the same. When they were originally contemplating the first lockdown, they weren't sure how long they could enforce it before people lost their patience. That was one of the arguments for waiting.



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17 Dec 2021, 9:19 pm

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In my part of rural southwest Michigan, and in similar communities throughout the country, this is true not despite but without any noticeable regard for cases; hospitalization statistics, which are always high this time of year without attracting much notice; or death reports.

Must be pretty nice to live so deep in the country that you don't need to worry about tourists/etc. spreading disease around. Up here in West Michigan, things are pretty bad. We've got the "Tri-Cities" here, so plenty of people around.

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Over the course of her pregnancy, from the first phone call to the midwife a few months after getting a positive pregnancy test until after delivery, the subject of the virus was never raised by any health-care professional, including her doula, a dear friend from New York.

Okay, I call BS on this one. There's no way that whatever town he lives in is so deep in the woods that the major hospital there has ZERO Coronavirus restrictions for the entire year of 2021.


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