Compulsory vaccines vs. compulsory military service

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People are against making Covid-vaccines compulsory, while at the same time being FOR compulsory military service (conscription).

I find it hard to understand the reasoning behind this, because conscription is far more intrusive than vaccines.
With vaccines, you can still live your life as you so choose. You decide where to live, where to work, what to work with if you want to work at all.

With conscription you're forced to live at a specific place, during a specific period of time, working a specific job, which you cannot refuse.

Yet people ONLY complain about making vaccines compulsory, they never complain about conscription.

Why?

You’re not correct.

Many more people are against military conscription than they are against vaccines being compulsory.

We, in the US, haven’t had a military draft since 1975. Most people don’t mind the vaccine mandates.

I guess your impression is based on what’s going on in your country.

While that's true, I bet a lot of people opposed to compulsory vaccination are in favor of military conscription. In the US, it seems a lot of people blindly form opinions along party lines, and pro-military and anti-vax are both associated with Republican.

Well now ... you will just have to find your (compulsory) driver' license, get into your (compulsorily registered and insured) car, drive it down the road (while obeying the compulsory traffic laws), buy some gasoline (and pay the compulsory sales tax), and then drive to the nearest government office to protest those (compulsory) masks and vaccines.

Yes, that was sarcasm, folks!

How do you make it (text) so small, are you a wizard?

It's not that some things are compulsory. It's about which things should be compulsory - and what shouldn't.

Military service or other forced labor has huge impact on people's lives, more than getting a vaccine and more than obeying traffic laws. Even if they are not sent to war.

I guess most Republicans/Pro-Military in the U.S. are against conscription, as are most Americans.
We can't really use American politics to make assumptions about the world. They're different.

So Kraftiekortie was right about that one - I was talking more about non-US politics.

In most Scandinavian countries, Conservatives are against vaccines because they believe in "individual/personal liberty", but they want to keep (compulsory) military service. Makes no sense to me...

I don’t agree with compulsory military service—but I understand the concept. If there’s an insufficient military, a country is almost always in danger from invasion, or would have difficulty, say, in fulfilling NATO requirements.

When it comes to vaccines, this should be a public health, rather than a political, issue. It’s obvious that being vaccinated prevents much hospitalization and death from COVID, and reduces transmission considerably. It would be nice if it prevented COVID altogether.

Think about what would have happened had there been much “vaccine resistance” to the polio vaccine.

I don't think vaccines reduces transmission, but they do help reduce hospitalization. There's a law which requires you to have a safety belt while driving because ultimately the society has a responsibility for treating your injuries due to a car crash. Your injuries are much worse if you haven't had a safety belt + you're more likely to increase society's expenses as a cripple.

Can we use this logical reasoning in the vaccine-debate?

Since vaccines help reduce hospitalization, that's a good idea - because otherwise covid-patients would be filling up all the hospitals meaning they can't perform surgeries or other treatments for other patients.

Of course I do believe that people should be able to choose among the approved vaccines. Nobody should be forced to get a vaccine they're not comfortable with, or which are more likely to cause side-effects/worsen side-effects.

Of course, people should be able to choose which vaccine they will take—as long as they take a vaccine at all.

I am against compulsory military service, too. So don't put the words in my mouth.

But one aspect in which vaccines are worse is that military service comes to the end while the effect of vaccines can't be "undone".

I’m glad you can’t get tetanus after receiving the tetanus vaccine; I wouldn’t want to “undo” that effect.

The vast majority of vaccine side-effects either are treatable, or go away on their own after a short time (the vast majority of those go away after a short time).

No….the COVID vaccine does not bear “the Mark of the Beast,” nor are chips implanted into people via that vaccine.

Actually, just like there are people that believe that covid vaccines are the mark of the beast, there are also people that believe that real ID is the mark of the beast. I did notice though that

a) The idea that real ID is the mark of the beast is more common in Russia than in America: in America they believe it is only a precursor

b) In both countries people started talking about real ID a lot less now that covid vaccine took its place

Some people are just suspicious by nature. One form of paranoia just replaces another.

Military service can have effects that can't be undone, either. If you get your arm blown off by an IED, for example, you can't get it back.

At least you don't go to hell for it. But then again, you might go to hell for killing someone yourself. So yeah, I am against mandatory military service too.