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08 Jan 2022, 10:48 pm

Even after all the times people people have told me to not make a big deal about things I see on the news, the internet is still finding ways to make me worry about the future of our society. This time, it involves an expert of sorts saying that by 2030, the US could turn into a right wing dictatorship. I really don't know what kind of bad that'll be for the country, but whatever it is, it's scary to me. I want to know for sure that things will get better after this time of COVID and political division and government corruption.


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08 Jan 2022, 11:15 pm

Of course we all want to see America sailing into calm waters, leaving this mess all behind us. Unfortunately, troubled times for a country is the opening a potential dictatorship is waiting for. Wishful thinking, or ignoring the signs of the times, is the last thing any of us should be doing.


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08 Jan 2022, 11:16 pm

What especially bothered me was that this guy was talking about it and acting like it was something to be worried about. People in the comments of this video think this isn’t just fear mongering as well. He’s always seemed like a credible talk show host to me so it doesn’t help with the stress I’m feeling that something’s not right here.

https://youtu.be/sq9WodYz8-I


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08 Jan 2022, 11:23 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
Of course we all want to see America sailing into calm waters, leaving this mess all behind us. Unfortunately, troubled times for a country is the opening a potential dictatorship is waiting for. Wishful thinking, or ignoring the signs of the times, is the last thing any of us should be doing.
Then what should we be doing?


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09 Jan 2022, 9:00 am

CubsBullsBears wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Of course we all want to see America sailing into calm waters, leaving this mess all behind us. Unfortunately, troubled times for a country is the opening a potential dictatorship is waiting for. Wishful thinking, or ignoring the signs of the times, is the last thing any of us should be doing.
Then what should we be doing?


Keep up with the national conversation, learn what is legitimate fact and what is false in said national conversation, and vote accordingly in upcoming elections for starters.
For instance, taking the Covid19 vaccine and obeying the mask mandate isn't a violation of one's rights or a political stance, but is meant to protect our fellow citizens, and so any politician or media talking head who says otherwise should be opposed for lying. Spreading the truth to those who have been deluded certainly helps.


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09 Jan 2022, 9:24 am

There seems to be a steady stream of threads in here started by liberal types – usually Americans – complaining about the mess their society is in and worrying out loud about some impending right wing, Fascist dictatorship.

The fact is, the US (like most other Western countries) has been moving in a socially liberal, economically neoliberal, anti-national and globalist direction for decades – so if liberal types are unhappy about the state of their society, maybe they should start by casting some of the blame on their own liberal value system instead of forever focusing on some future Fascist bogeyman.

Doesn’t it say something about the deficiencies of the current liberal democratic system we live under that it has little else to motivate and inspire people beyond scare stories claiming that what ‘might’ replace it is going to be even worse?



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09 Jan 2022, 5:43 pm

slam_thunderhide wrote:
There seems to be a steady stream of threads in here started by liberal types – usually Americans – complaining about the mess their society is in and worrying out loud about some impending right wing, Fascist dictatorship.

The fact is, the US (like most other Western countries) has been moving in a socially liberal, economically neoliberal, anti-national and globalist direction for decades – so if liberal types are unhappy about the state of their society, maybe they should start by casting some of the blame on their own liberal value system instead of forever focusing on some future Fascist bogeyman.

Doesn’t it say something about the deficiencies of the current liberal democratic system we live under that it has little else to motivate and inspire people beyond scare stories claiming that what ‘might’ replace it is going to be even worse?


In fact, there has always been a conservative reactionary resentment toward liberalism, and therein lies the fascist threat. Many of the people who took part in the January 6 riot had been motivated by fears that they were losing their high status as white people due to non-whites gaining equality due to liberalism, or believing that the growing number of non-white Americans was proof that whites were being replaced. Same as with middle class people believing that they are losing economic standing because of liberal policies that provide a social safety net for poor people. Fascism feeds on the irrational fear and resentment of the haves of the have-nots, and for the liberalism that provides equality and livelihood for said have-nots.


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09 Jan 2022, 6:12 pm

I feel the republican party should change their name to the monecrat (play on the word money) party. You have a supposed billionaire who wants he and his family to run America; and there are plenty of sycophants who worship him because of his money. I honestly feel there is no way to combat this. I can only hope there are enough Americans who can see the danger of money-worship and see Trump as a threat to democracy.



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09 Jan 2022, 6:19 pm

am wondering if the expiration date on this body expires before 2030 ? Social phenomina not withstanding . :roll:


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09 Jan 2022, 6:23 pm

Paranoia is also partnered with resentment and fear when it comes to the rise of fascism, and it's roots run deep:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/op-ed-todays ... 12560.html


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09 Jan 2022, 6:43 pm

The nature of government in the US was nicely described the outgoing US president Dwight Eisenhower. He warned of the burdens imposed by a large, and seemingly permanent, military establishment set up after WWII. He charged his countrymen to be on guard against a “militaryindustrial complex” acquiring “unwarranted influence” in the halls of power.

Fast forward to 2022 and the government in the US is multifaceted entity that includes
Foreign intelligence agency - CIA
National Security - FBI
The FBI and CIA are under direction from the National Security state - NSA who's powers were expanded following 9-11
The military industrial complex - conglomeration of US defence and private contractors
Multinational Corporations/banks - global conglomerates based in the US but also with no specific address who donate money to whoever is in power and who keep the wheels of the economy going.

The operations of the above are largely outside the jurisdiction of congress other than the budgets being set (although in the case of the NSA its been a blank cheque since 2001).



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09 Jan 2022, 6:47 pm

CubsBullsBears wrote:
Even after all the times people people have told me to not make a big deal about things I see on the news, the internet is still finding ways to make me worry about the future of our society. This time, it involves an expert of sorts saying that by 2030, the US could turn into a right wing dictatorship. I really don't know what kind of bad that'll be for the country, but whatever it is, it's scary to me. I want to know for sure that things will get better after this time of COVID and political division and government corruption.



Strange, I keep hearing how everything is turning to the left wing and how woke has taken over but then I hear this? Is this another conspiracy created by the right about our country going woke and we're leaning towards the left?


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09 Jan 2022, 6:52 pm

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Strange, I keep hearing how everything is turning to the left wing and how woke has taken over but then I hear this? Is this another conspiracy created by the right about our country going woke and we're leaning towards the left?


Yes, they seem to want it all. Apparently the country is in peril from the "woke" leftists :roll:



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09 Jan 2022, 9:11 pm

cyberdad wrote:
The nature of government in the US was nicely described the outgoing US president Dwight Eisenhower. He warned of the burdens imposed by a large, and seemingly permanent, military establishment set up after WWII. He charged his countrymen to be on guard against a “militaryindustrial complex” acquiring “unwarranted influence” in the halls of power.

Fast forward to 2022 and the government in the US is multifaceted entity that includes
Foreign intelligence agency - CIA
National Security - FBI
The FBI and CIA are under direction from the National Security state - NSA who's powers were expanded following 9-11
The military industrial complex - conglomeration of US defence and private contractors
Multinational Corporations/banks - global conglomerates based in the US but also with no specific address who donate money to whoever is in power and who keep the wheels of the economy going.

The operations of the above are largely outside the jurisdiction of congress other than the budgets being set (although in the case of the NSA its been a blank cheque since 2001).


This has frightened me since forever .


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09 Jan 2022, 10:32 pm

Jakki wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
The nature of government in the US was nicely described the outgoing US president Dwight Eisenhower. He warned of the burdens imposed by a large, and seemingly permanent, military establishment set up after WWII. He charged his countrymen to be on guard against a “militaryindustrial complex” acquiring “unwarranted influence” in the halls of power.

Fast forward to 2022 and the government in the US is multifaceted entity that includes
Foreign intelligence agency - CIA
National Security - FBI
The FBI and CIA are under direction from the National Security state - NSA who's powers were expanded following 9-11
The military industrial complex - conglomeration of US defence and private contractors
Multinational Corporations/banks - global conglomerates based in the US but also with no specific address who donate money to whoever is in power and who keep the wheels of the economy going.

The operations of the above are largely outside the jurisdiction of congress other than the budgets being set (although in the case of the NSA its been a blank cheque since 2001).


This has frightened me since forever .


It's probably the worst kept secret that there is a shadow government under the guise of the national security state (the NSA are but one arm) who (for the ostensible purposes of national security) operate outside of the jurisdiction of congress. This is partly a fail safe to avoid any authoritarian figure (e.g. Trump) getting above his station and/or instigating an attack on the government (how ironic). But also the initiation of measures to ensure protection against civil insurgency whether domestic or an international threat that is required to bypass the bureaucracy of congress to initiate swift action.



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09 Jan 2022, 10:33 pm

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CubsBullsBears wrote:
Even after all the times people people have told me to not make a big deal about things I see on the news, the internet is still finding ways to make me worry about the future of our society. This time, it involves an expert of sorts saying that by 2030, the US could turn into a right wing dictatorship. I really don't know what kind of bad that'll be for the country, but whatever it is, it's scary to me. I want to know for sure that things will get better after this time of COVID and political division and government corruption.



Strange, I keep hearing how everything is turning to the left wing and how woke has taken over but then I hear this? Is this another conspiracy created by the right about our country going woke and we're leaning towards the left?


It's Hollywood that's going too far to the left. It's politics that's going too far to the right.


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