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14 Dec 2021, 1:56 pm

Whether you're right or left wing - Cancel Culture is only for losers.

There's absolutely no reason why people should be banned from public life because of their political opinions.

Name just one good reason why you cannot like a piece of art made by someone who have opposing political/religious views compared to your own values, provided you'd like that very same piece of art had the artist not expressed the political opinions of which you disagree with.

You need to provide just one GOOD reason. I can't find any.



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14 Dec 2021, 2:12 pm

I actually don't understand the term "cancel culture".


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14 Dec 2021, 2:13 pm

Nothing says I'm being censored like posting on several online platforms about it and doing the talk show circuit to complain about it.


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14 Dec 2021, 2:14 pm

babybird wrote:
I actually don't understand the term "cancel culture".


Example:

Someone makes a piece of art. Everyone likes it.

The artist then write a political statement, totally unrelated to his art.

Then someone who previously liked his art, starts disliking it.

That's cancel culture in a nutshell.



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14 Dec 2021, 2:37 pm

babybird wrote:
I actually don't understand the term "cancel culture".


I thought it was about abusing free trials. :mrgreen:



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14 Dec 2021, 2:40 pm

thinkinginpictures wrote:
babybird wrote:
I actually don't understand the term "cancel culture".


Example:

Someone makes a piece of art. Everyone likes it.

The artist then write a political statement, totally unrelated to his art.

Then someone who previously liked his art, starts disliking it.

That's cancel culture in a nutshell.


So when people develop disdain for an artist based on their behaviour or opinions are they not allowed to lose interest in that person's art as a result? :scratch:


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14 Dec 2021, 2:52 pm

It's just one of those things that I can't grasp. I know it's not difficult but I think it's the phrase that just doesn't sit well with me.


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14 Dec 2021, 3:10 pm

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So when people develop disdain for an artist based on their behaviour or opinions are they not allowed to lose interest in that person's art as a result? :scratch:


You may dislike as much art as you like, provided it's the art itself you dislike.
Disliking art based on who made it, makes you a loser though.

I hate nazis. I wish Hitler is burning up in hell for all eternity.
But I have no reason to dislike his art.



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14 Dec 2021, 3:11 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
Nothing says I'm being censored like posting on several online platforms about it and doing the talk show circuit to complain about it.

Made me think of this:


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14 Dec 2021, 3:24 pm

Simple: "Cancel Culture" is a 21st-century term for what used to be called "Ostracism".

Cancel culture is a modern form of ostracism in which someone is thrust out of social or professional communities; whether those communities are online (e.g., social media), corporate (e.g., "You're fired!"), or in person (e.g., "I don't know you").

"Ghosting" is a way of cancelling a personal relationship.

"Boycotting" is a corporate (or economic) way of canceling a business relationship.

"Banning" is a way of cancelling someone from a social website.



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14 Dec 2021, 3:58 pm

Yeah I use those old school terms for it. Thank you Fnord.


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14 Dec 2021, 4:03 pm

You are welcome, Bird!

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14 Dec 2021, 4:15 pm

Fnord wrote:
Simple: "Cancel Culture" is a 21st-century term for what used to be called "Ostracism".

Cancel culture is a modern form of ostracism in which someone is thrust out of social or professional communities; whether those communities are online (e.g., social media), corporate (e.g., "You're fired!"), or in person (e.g., "I don't know you").

"Ghosting" is a way of cancelling a personal relationship.

"Boycotting" is a corporate (or economic) way of canceling a business relationship.

"Banning" is a way of cancelling someone from a social website.


Another word for it is: Bullying.



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14 Dec 2021, 5:21 pm

thinkinginpictures wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
So when people develop disdain for an artist based on their behaviour or opinions are they not allowed to lose interest in that person's art as a result? :scratch:


You may dislike as much art as you like, provided it's the art itself you dislike.
Disliking art based on who made it, makes you a loser though.

I hate nazis. I wish Hitler is burning up in hell for all eternity.
But I have no reason to dislike his art.


Terrible logic. People can like or dislike art on whatever grounds suits them.


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14 Dec 2021, 5:26 pm

thinkinginpictures wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Simple: "Cancel Culture" is a 21st-century term for what used to be called "Ostracism".

Cancel culture is a modern form of ostracism in which someone is thrust out of social or professional communities; whether those communities are online (e.g., social media), corporate (e.g., "You're fired!"), or in person (e.g., "I don't know you").

"Ghosting" is a way of cancelling a personal relationship.

"Boycotting" is a corporate (or economic) way of canceling a business relationship.

"Banning" is a way of cancelling someone from a social website.
Another word for it is: Bullying.
Wrong again.  Bullying is the repeated and habitual abuse of someone perceived as weaker, with the objective to aggressively dominate or intimidate the victim.

Cancelation is what happens when a bully is removed -- an "anti-bully" action.



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14 Dec 2021, 9:43 pm

Cancel culture is a pretty knucklehead idea if you ask me.


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