F-ck leftist westplaining
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funeralxempire
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Earlier this week, the Polish parliamentary progressive left party, Razem, issued a statement in which they announce that they are cutting ties with two European organisations: Progressive International and DiEM25.
“The Russian aggression in Ukraine demands a lot of work from us and- unfortunately- explaining of many issues to the west European left,” Razem states on their socials, “Yesterday, our National Council decided to leave Progressive International and DiEM25. Why? For reasons incomprehensible to us, both movements did not unequivocally condemn the imperialist and aggressive actions of the Russian Federation and did not unequivocally support the sovereignty of Ukraine, dangerously relativising this war.”
I support this very polite and carefully worded statement, but this is Freedom so let me deliver this message by Razem differently: f**k.You. Or, at the very least, Shut.The.f**k.Up.
This text isn’t specifically about the Western anarchists. Despite an odd “Ukraine’s Nazi army” here and there, I think the anarchists are not too bad on the issues of Russian imperialism: both presently and historically. Some more work needs doing for sure but, especially compared to some other parts of the UK, and wider, Western left, I give my anarchist comrades a B minus here. You still know fuck-all about Eastern Europe and the only word in the relevant languages you are familiar with is “kurwa”, but at least most of you are not struggling to establish who is the baddie in the current situation. Now, you pathetic tankies and other cranks, it’s your attention we wish to have for the next few paragraphs.
“The Russian aggression in Ukraine demands a lot of work from us and- unfortunately- explaining of many issues to the west European left,” Razem states on their socials, “Yesterday, our National Council decided to leave Progressive International and DiEM25. Why? For reasons incomprehensible to us, both movements did not unequivocally condemn the imperialist and aggressive actions of the Russian Federation and did not unequivocally support the sovereignty of Ukraine, dangerously relativising this war.”
I support this very polite and carefully worded statement, but this is Freedom so let me deliver this message by Razem differently: f**k.You. Or, at the very least, Shut.The.f**k.Up.
This text isn’t specifically about the Western anarchists. Despite an odd “Ukraine’s Nazi army” here and there, I think the anarchists are not too bad on the issues of Russian imperialism: both presently and historically. Some more work needs doing for sure but, especially compared to some other parts of the UK, and wider, Western left, I give my anarchist comrades a B minus here. You still know fuck-all about Eastern Europe and the only word in the relevant languages you are familiar with is “kurwa”, but at least most of you are not struggling to establish who is the baddie in the current situation. Now, you pathetic tankies and other cranks, it’s your attention we wish to have for the next few paragraphs.
https://freedomnews.org.uk/2022/03/04/f ... tplaining/
This is mostly the left criticizing other portions of the left, so it needs to be understood from that perspective. Russian aggression has found some odd defenders, primarily among people who are very consistently anti-war when it's NATO or the Anglo-bloc engaging in it and yet suddenly there's a whole lot of equivocating and making excuses for Russian imperialism. It's good to see that called out for what it is. It doesn't matter what you claim your ideology to be, if you're making excuses for these violent imperialist actions you're defending imperialism and can't honestly claim to be antiwar or anti-imperialism.
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Just a reminder: under international law, an occupying power has no right of self-defense, and those who are occupied have the right and duty to liberate themselves by any means possible.
I'm about 1/2 to 2/3 through the article & yes, what is said in it absolutely needs to be said.
I myself am a westerner who is aware of just very few of the intricacies of Europe and Eastern Europe, and yet, only knowing that little bit I can see when westerners have the mindset this article criticizes, do what this article criticizes.
Perhaps imperfectly, I would use a hypothetical speaker to express one feeling about the thing as, "Here we go again, you westerners making our lives, our world, all about you."
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funeralxempire wrote:
Quote:
Earlier this week, the Polish parliamentary progressive left party, Razem, issued a statement in which they announce that they are cutting ties with two European organisations: Progressive International and DiEM25.
“The Russian aggression in Ukraine demands a lot of work from us and- unfortunately- explaining of many issues to the west European left,” Razem states on their socials, “Yesterday, our National Council decided to leave Progressive International and DiEM25. Why? For reasons incomprehensible to us, both movements did not unequivocally condemn the imperialist and aggressive actions of the Russian Federation and did not unequivocally support the sovereignty of Ukraine, dangerously relativising this war.”
I support this very polite and carefully worded statement, but this is Freedom so let me deliver this message by Razem differently: f**k.You. Or, at the very least, Shut.The.f**k.Up.
This text isn’t specifically about the Western anarchists. Despite an odd “Ukraine’s Nazi army” here and there, I think the anarchists are not too bad on the issues of Russian imperialism: both presently and historically. Some more work needs doing for sure but, especially compared to some other parts of the UK, and wider, Western left, I give my anarchist comrades a B minus here. You still know fuck-all about Eastern Europe and the only word in the relevant languages you are familiar with is “kurwa”, but at least most of you are not struggling to establish who is the baddie in the current situation. Now, you pathetic tankies and other cranks, it’s your attention we wish to have for the next few paragraphs.
“The Russian aggression in Ukraine demands a lot of work from us and- unfortunately- explaining of many issues to the west European left,” Razem states on their socials, “Yesterday, our National Council decided to leave Progressive International and DiEM25. Why? For reasons incomprehensible to us, both movements did not unequivocally condemn the imperialist and aggressive actions of the Russian Federation and did not unequivocally support the sovereignty of Ukraine, dangerously relativising this war.”
I support this very polite and carefully worded statement, but this is Freedom so let me deliver this message by Razem differently: f**k.You. Or, at the very least, Shut.The.f**k.Up.
This text isn’t specifically about the Western anarchists. Despite an odd “Ukraine’s Nazi army” here and there, I think the anarchists are not too bad on the issues of Russian imperialism: both presently and historically. Some more work needs doing for sure but, especially compared to some other parts of the UK, and wider, Western left, I give my anarchist comrades a B minus here. You still know fuck-all about Eastern Europe and the only word in the relevant languages you are familiar with is “kurwa”, but at least most of you are not struggling to establish who is the baddie in the current situation. Now, you pathetic tankies and other cranks, it’s your attention we wish to have for the next few paragraphs.
https://freedomnews.org.uk/2022/03/04/f ... tplaining/
This is mostly the left criticizing other portions of the left, so it needs to be understood from that perspective. Russian aggression has found some odd defenders, primarily among people who are very consistently anti-war when it's NATO or the Anglo-bloc engaging in it and yet suddenly there's a whole lot of equivocating and making excuses for Russian imperialism. It's good to see that called out for what it is. It doesn't matter what you claim your ideology to be, if you're making excuses for these violent imperialist actions you're defending imperialism and can't honestly claim to be antiwar or anti-imperialism.
100%.
I could not have put it better myself!
