How do you understand the concept of informed consent?
How do you understand the concept of informed consent to anything? Now Amnesty International, in Poland, is proposing to change the definition of rape in our legislation so that consent to sex must be explicit, now consider rape only forcing by force or deception to have sex
Personally, I am not interested in women, more in men, if you know what I meant ![]()
I am 36 I wonder how it is with these consents, not only when it comes to sex, but whether the question of consent is not formalized too much for the sphere of life which, by its very nature, should be spontaneous, which will be later will apply to a partner regardless of gender with a form, as in the tax office, maybe some stupid bureaucrat will have to approve it, that would be a good joke ![]()
By the way, when it comes to consent as such, my parents were a little overprotective, and rightly so about me, especially about something dangerous.
My friend told me to always ask my parents when they would be distracted, and preferably drunk, although in the case of my parents it was, unfortunately, or unfortunately, impossible because they rarely drank alcohol at all
A friend also said that it is best to ask them separately and never when they are together because if it happens that let's say that dad will agree and mom will not, or vice versa, you can confront them, let's say, but "mom/dad agreed" that thanks to this this person in this case the parent who disagreed will turn out to be the unkind one
This friend also said that when it comes to any activities that require formal written consent, e.g. at school, some trip, it is best to give it to the parents to sign, mixed with other papers, when they are the busiest, because there is a good chance that they will even sign it. without reading ![]()
If you want to have sex with someone, and they tell you “No”, or if they are too drunk or stoned to say “No”, or if they are unconscious, and you have sex with them anyway, you have committed rape.
If the person is under the Age of Consent, and you have sex with them, you have committed rape.
Is that clear enough?
Given the chronically and deliberately deceptive and manipulative behavior you detail in what is quoted below it appears that you understanding the concept of informed consent has not happened, and either never will happen or will be willfully rejected, if you haven't already willfully rejected it.
A friend also said that it is best to ask them separately and never when they are together because if it happens that let's say that dad will agree and mom will not, or vice versa, you can confront them, let's say, but "mom/dad agreed" that thanks to this this person in this case the parent who disagreed will turn out to be the unkind one
This friend also said that when it comes to any activities that require formal written consent, e.g. at school, some trip, it is best to give it to the parents to sign, mixed with other papers, when they are the busiest, because there is a good chance that they will even sign it. without reading
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I thought that "informed consent" was a term used for medical procedures? When I was going to go on HRT my PCP was going to let me use "informed consent" instead of getting letters from a psych.
I also honestly can't understand what you're getting at in your post. I don't see how everything you talked about relates to each other. 
Given the chronically and deliberately deceptive and manipulative behavior you detail in what is quoted below it appears that you understanding the concept of informed consent has not happened, and either never will happen or will be willfully rejected, if you haven't already willfully rejected it.
A friend also said that it is best to ask them separately and never when they are together because if it happens that let's say that dad will agree and mom will not, or vice versa, you can confront them, let's say, but "mom/dad agreed" that thanks to this this person in this case the parent who disagreed will turn out to be the unkind one
This friend also said that when it comes to any activities that require formal written consent, e.g. at school, some trip, it is best to give it to the parents to sign, mixed with other papers, when they are the busiest, because there is a good chance that they will even sign it. without reading
This friend of mine had this attitude, who also had Asperger, and he seems to have managed to live better than me
He was telling me that I was a looser and I am a loser and will remain a looser
He was telling me that I have to be able to navigate in life
Given the chronically and deliberately deceptive and manipulative behavior you detail in what is quoted below it appears that you understanding the concept of informed consent has not happened, and either never will happen or will be willfully rejected, if you haven't already willfully rejected it.
A friend also said that it is best to ask them separately and never when they are together because if it happens that let's say that dad will agree and mom will not, or vice versa, you can confront them, let's say, but "mom/dad agreed" that thanks to this this person in this case the parent who disagreed will turn out to be the unkind one
This friend also said that when it comes to any activities that require formal written consent, e.g. at school, some trip, it is best to give it to the parents to sign, mixed with other papers, when they are the busiest, because there is a good chance that they will even sign it. without reading
Now I think that I was needlessly so unnecessarily honest, by the book and kind to others
If the person is under the Age of Consent, and you have sex with them, you have committed rape.
Is that clear enough?
You forgot one, Fnord:
Even if the person doesn't say "no" or doesn't fight back, it's unacceptable to do anything. It's not just about fight or flight; there's also "freeze." The person could be unwilling, but unable to express it due to fear. The person has to give a clear "yes", either verbally or by physically being clearly in to it, like taking off their own clothes willingly or something. This is apparently going to be added to the definition of rape soon where I'm from, if it hasn't been done already. Honestly though, I would've thought it would've been there since 80s or something, but apparently not. In that sense, our laws are still pretty uncivilized.
If the person is under the Age of Consent, and you have sex with them, you have committed rape.
Is that clear enough?
Not all women say no to sex even if they are sober. They put off body language that says "no" and men either ignore those signals or they are bad at reading body language. This is the reason why some men on the spectrum are even afraid to have sex, not because they fear they will get falsely accused but are scared they will misread their body language or not read their cues and accidentally rape them.
I have never been afraid to say no but then again I don't fear men.
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Daughter: NT, no diagnoses. Possibly OCD. Is very private about herself.
I understand it to be about getting a definitive "yes" each step of the way in an intimate encounter.
You have to understand that a body may react physically in ways that scream "yes" even though a person does not want to SAY yes. Intimacy with someone you aren't already in an exclusive relationship with isn't the time to try to rely on non-verbal signals. You have to get a "Yes, I want to do what you asking."
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I don't think you can 'accidentally' rape somebody. You could be accidentally raped. Like drugged. If you were rendered unconscious. But...oh I tripped and fell on you and...uh??
Again, if you freeze up, and nobody holding a knife on you...a gun...Then I just don't get it. And in that case, there's nothing accidental about it. So afraid to say no? you would just say nothing and let somebody have their way with you?
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I don't think you can 'accidentally' rape somebody. You could be accidentally raped. Like drugged. If you were rendered unconscious. But...oh I tripped and fell on you and...uh??
Again, if you freeze up, and nobody holding a knife on you...a gun...Then I just don't get it. And in that case, there's nothing accidental about it. So afraid to say no? you would just say nothing and let somebody have their way with you?
Not all women kick or scream. Some will just go along with it and let it happen without saying anything. This is a autistic man's worst fear. How do they know the woman is not conformable if she isn't fighting or telling the man "I gotta leave, maybe another time."
And most women will not say anything if this happens to them so men out there afraid to be falsely accused have little to worry about.
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Son: Diagnosed w/anxiety and ADHD. Also academic delayed and ASD lv 1.
Daughter: NT, no diagnoses. Possibly OCD. Is very private about herself.
