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02 Apr 2022, 4:55 pm

UVA researchers find link between Confederate monuments, lynchings

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Earlier this week, President Joe Biden signed a bill into law that makes lynching a federal hate crime.

According to some University of Virginia researchers, there were more lynchings in states with Confederate statues, like Virginia.

According to the FBI, the total number of hate crimes has been increasing every year but one since 2014 across the country.

The team of scholars found in dedication speeches for Confederate memorials, many used racist language. Nearly half included phrases like "love of race" and "your own race and blood."

The study says both lynching and Confederate memorials were reactions to Black progress.

Under the new federal hate crime law, anyone convicted of the offense can receive a sentence of up to 30 years in prison.

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States with the most Confederate memorials
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Seventy-three Confederate monuments were removed or renamed in 2021, leaving 723 such monuments standing in the United States. The Southern Poverty Law Center's “Whose Heritage?” data project counted more than 2,000 Confederate memorials throughout the country today, including statues, parks, schools, streets, highways, or practically any structure which, in one way or another, honors a Confederate figure or the whole coalition of seceded states.

Stacker analyzed the SPLC’s research and ranked states according to which have the most Confederate memorials, Data was last updated Jan. 21, 2022 (released Feb. 1).


Read the linked article for state-by-state for details.


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02 Apr 2022, 8:15 pm

Important to say - I think these things are probably related, but I don’t think statues cause lynchings. It seems likely to me that the sort of communities that will lynch black people are also the sorts of communities that erect Confederate statues.

I support removing the statues or erecting plaques that are more appropriate, but we shouldn’t be under any illusions that this will make the world safer or less racist.



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05 Apr 2022, 1:43 am

No, statues don't cause lynchings, but the Pro-Confederate/racist attitudes that went into erecting those Confederate monuments do.


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06 Apr 2022, 12:28 am

Confederate Monuments are known to whisper racist thoughts to anyone who passes by them.



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06 Apr 2022, 2:33 am

TwisterUprocker wrote:
Confederate Monuments are known to whisper racist thoughts to anyone who passes by them.


No, racist thoughts in the heads of people led to erecting those statues.


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06 Apr 2022, 4:26 am

On one hand - the observation seems silly. Almost a tautology. Like saying "In the mostly Protestant USA states that have a high proportion of Spanish speakers tend to also have a high proportion of Roman Catholics. Ergo... speaking Spanish somehow causes a person to abandon Protestantism for Catholicism.

Though Catholicism and Spanish speaking correlate in the US (A) Spanish speaking, does not cause (B)belief in Catholicism. Both A and B are caused by (C) Immigration from Latin America because folks in Latin America tend to be both Spanish speaking and Catholic to begin with (and that is due to the fact that five centuries ago Latin America was founded by colonist and conquistadors from Spain which is a Catholic country). And the said immigrants from Latin America usually retain their native Catholicism once they come here.

On the other hand - its not quite like that. There is SOME half truth to it.

States that have a lot of Confederate statues presumably do so because they have a lot of local heroes in the Confederate cause. And they have that because they were once part of the southern confederacy during the Civil War. Those same states -southern states- also had segregation - in the post civil war era. Lynching was a way enforcing the racial power structure of segregation. Long story short- A)Confederate statues do not cause (B)Lynchings. Both A and B exist in the same region of the country that once had slavery- and fought a war to preserve slavery- and thus had military heroes from that war. So both A and B have roots in C (slavery). Much like the Spanish Speaking-Catholic correlation.One didnt cause the other. They both have a common origin in the past.

Except for one little thing. Many confederate statues were built in the 1950s just as the Black Civil Rights movement was emerging in the south. And they were built as a deliberate gesture of defiance to the Fed Govt. and to the Civil Rights movement.

So...such statues were often a statement about the present day politics. And thus were anti civil rights. Thus kinda WERE a deliberate statement in support of racism. So though its seems silly that A would cause B, there is SOME truth to thinking that A perpetuates the thinking the causes B.



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06 Apr 2022, 11:56 am

naturalplastic wrote:
On one hand - the observation seems silly. Almost a tautology. Like saying "In the mostly Protestant USA states that have a high proportion of Spanish speakers tend to also have a high proportion of Roman Catholics. Ergo... speaking Spanish somehow causes a person to abandon Protestantism for Catholicism.

Though Catholicism and Spanish speaking correlate in the US (A) Spanish speaking, does not cause (B)belief in Catholicism. Both A and B are caused by (C) Immigration from Latin America because folks in Latin America tend to be both Spanish speaking and Catholic to begin with (and that is due to the fact that five centuries ago Latin America was founded by colonist and conquistadors from Spain which is a Catholic country). And the said immigrants from Latin America usually retain their native Catholicism once they come here.

On the other hand - its not quite like that. There is SOME half truth to it.

States that have a lot of Confederate statues presumably do so because they have a lot of local heroes in the Confederate cause. And they have that because they were once part of the southern confederacy during the Civil War. Those same states -southern states- also had segregation - in the post civil war era. Lynching was a way enforcing the racial power structure of segregation. Long story short- A)Confederate statues do not cause (B)Lynchings. Both A and B exist in the same region of the country that once had slavery- and fought a war to preserve slavery- and thus had military heroes from that war. So both A and B have roots in C (slavery). Much like the Spanish Speaking-Catholic correlation.One didnt cause the other. They both have a common origin in the past.

Except for one little thing. Many confederate statues were built in the 1950s just as the Black Civil Rights movement was emerging in the south. And they were built as a deliberate gesture of defiance to the Fed Govt. and to the Civil Rights movement.

So...such statues were often a statement about the present day politics. And thus were anti civil rights. Thus kinda WERE a deliberate statement in support of racism. So though its seems silly that A would cause B, there is SOME truth to thinking that A perpetuates the thinking the causes B.

Linkage is not causation, sometime it is just random correlation, sometimes it is more then that. In this case it is circumstantial evidence that that statues were not put up with just reverence to fallen soldiers as oft claimed. It is circumstantial evidence of not only of racist attitudes but of enough of a racist attitudes for people to act on it. That is its importance.


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06 Apr 2022, 10:09 pm

The 1950s was almost 100 years after the Confederacy was defeated in the Civil War.

It seems pretty obvious that those who built tributes to Confederate folks harkened back to an ignorant past with hackneyed notions.

It’s a pity these folks could not put up with the equality of human beings of a darker skin color.