Who killed Jesus? Some new ideas

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I would say that the actual situation is a little more subtle than that.
A Chinese of half African descent will certainly cause more exclusion than a Chinese of half white descent. Africans are still new to East Asia.
Some European phenotypes may have spread with ancient hybrids, so that they are often regarded as normal local appearance or gene mutations, but African phenotypes are not.

In some extreme cases, when a pure black abandoned baby adopted by Chinese people grows up and looks like a Chinese urban guy in behavior and expression, he will be regarded as amiable.
There is a similar situation for what appears to be a pure white phenotype. There is no lack of such individuals on the border between China and Russia.
But it can still almost be regarded as congenital, which basically depends on where you were born or the culture of your guardian, rather than an environment in which you can learn to integrate.

Modern Chinese people have some contradictory and subtle feelings about the Chinese ethnic group who can't speak Chinese or dont agree with Chinese culture.
But the news about a person with pure Chinese descent will certainly attract more attention in China. Whatever their culture.

The Chinese are neither a pure identification nor a pure cultural identification - although it usually seems closer to the latter.
Even the English word "Chinese" itself corresponds to several Chinese terms with slightly different meanings.

I always understood that "China" is derived from "Chin" which is the surname of the emperor who forcibly united China in 200 BC. But his "Chin" dynasty ended with one ruler, himself, because he got assassinated. Then the Han dynasty took over, and ruled for the next four centuries.

I imagine the "Out of Africa" hypothesis isn't exactly popular in China as all evidence points to all our ancestors being black. Do you know the story of the American actor John Boyega and how his role as the star of the Star War's sequels was changed half way when Disney learned Chinese audiences would not pay money to see a lead actor who was black.

White Europeans were obsessed, for about 400 years.

If the word "China" here means "China", which is used to refer to the "central Empire", it comes from many different theories - the spelling variant Chin of the Qin Dynasty must be one of the more attractive ones.
But as a self identified "China", this is absolutely reasonable.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qin_Shi_Huang#Administrative_reforms

Although the differences in spoken language between different "Chinese dialects" may be analogous to the whole Europe, they can still be regarded as the same language because of the same writing system.

Gives me an excuse to play this cool Xmas song from the Seventies.


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I would say that China's central media, CCTV, has made documentaries based on the premise of "Out of Africa" hypothesis.
I noticed that there were a few well-informed Chinese claim that some local fossil museums will provide hints that are not so - but I think it is unfair to claim that "global-earth" is not popular in the United States.

And I don't quite understand that discrimination against a certain ethnicity/race has something to do with how we view the origin of human beings. Is it understandable to discriminate against other residents who certainly do not live in the place of human origin?
I would think that "black" / "African" is a byword from external observation, not a community of self-identity - until the slave trade. The ancestor of a certain race is a certain ethnic group living in Africa, which does not mean that other ethnic groups living on the African continent have some inheritance relationship with this race. Especially considering the genetic diversity of human beings on the African continent.

About John boyega and China:
https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/v2g7xr/whats_up_with_the_star_wars_poster_hiding_john/

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Um...And I'm sure the film Black Panther has been shown in China.
I'm not sure what the West thinks of this film, but it has caused widespread criticism of "Americans/White discriminating against blacks" in China. And take the film itself as evidence to accuse white centralism.

Since PRC has long wanted to portray itself as the spokesman of the third world, "African brothers" is a very common expression in China.

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First of All, Happy Father's Day
And Juneteenth And to Be Clear

Father's Day and Juneteenth Are Both Stories

And Both Will Continue to Live on As Long As the Two
Stories Exist and Folks Continue to Believe And Celebrate Them.

Secondly, REALITY CHECK, JESUS IS 'THE WORD;' YEP, IN OTHER WORDS
JESUS IS A STORY TOO AND IMPOSSIBLE TO KILL OR DESTROY AS LONG AS THE

STORY EXISTS AND FOLKS CONTINUE To BeLieVE IN THE STORY AND CELEBRATE IT; it's a Moot

Point as
Far
As Who

Actually Killed

the So-called Physical
Little Brown Dude, Syrian
Looking As Such Back then

As Far As Who Was Actually Responsible
in Part or Whole for the So-Called Crucifixion

(For the Illiterate Aramaic Speaking Dude Then Who
Never Wrote A Word Nor His 'Lowly FRiEnDS' Either)

As That Was A Regular Practice the Roman's Used
to Scape-Goat Folks that Way to Put Fear into Others
From Breaking the Roman Rule and Associated Laws of Course...

Not Much Different Really than what the Ku Klux Klan Used to Do to
Scare African Americans By Scape-Goating Black Folks Burning them on A Cross

If they Dare
Crossed the
Rule of Disgusting
Ignorant 'White Folks'

Discriminating Against
Folk's Rights to Life, Liberty,
And the Pursuit of Happiness Just
Based on the Melanin Pigment in Their Skin

And It's True Considering the United States is
Practically Turning into the Sunshine State of Heat
in Florida; Not a Bad Idea to Have Some Darker Pigment
These Days to Protect One from the 100 Degree June Sunshine

From Dawn
to Dusk AS Such...

The Browning of the World
Just in the Nick of Climate Change;

Other than that if the Original Little Brown
Dude With Dirty Feet in Sandals Tried to Make
HiS Way in A First Baptist Church of SUITS SUITS
SUITS AND ALL THE PUSH-UP BRAS AND THE SUCH

HE WOULD BE SNUBBED AS PASTORS HAVE ALREADY
TRIED THIS EXPERIMENT TO FIND OUT WHAT WOULD
HAPPEN IF JESUS COMES AS HE CAME THE FIRST GO AROUND

True a Little Mexican Carpenter Dude ACross the Border as the
So-Called Christians at a Trump rally Said SHOOT HIM and 'the Trump'

(In the Panhandle of 'Florida Men', Other Wise Known as LA Lower Alabama
Roll Tide Roll Around the ToiLet Boil AS Such)

Could Only
Smile at
the Sado
Masochism
At Hand Not Much

Different than Recent
Chants of Hang Mike Pence
As Trump Made it Clear He
Thought He Deserved it For Not

Supporting A Biggest Lie Yet Its Doesn't
Matter How Much of a 'Father oF All Lies'
Trump Proves Himself to Be THaT; He is Still Celebrated

NoW As A Story Holy and Sacred in the Halls of So-Called
Evangelical Christians Celebrating His Big Story Lie Just This Week

Killing Jesus by Story and Replacing Jesus With THE Trump Big LIE Story;
Just Yuck as

True Trump
Ain't Got
No Beatitudes At all

In that Big Painted on Orange God Face of His
That Evangelical Christians Still Give Great Thanks
And Praise For His Biggest Father oF ALL Lies Still Today...

Anyway, It's Hard to Kill A Story That's Been Around For Thousands
of Years as 'WORD' Does Get Around As Nicene Creeds Tend to Be

Repeated
As A Magic
Incantation

To Actually Bring Jesus
Back in Physical Form For
the First 'Time' Ever Out of Story!

Hmm, as 'They' Say Be Careful For What
You Wish For As If You Wish Long Enough
Together An 'Egregore' May Suddenly Appear;

(Coming in Naked Glory to Judge the
Living And the Dead And All that Jazz)

And No an 'Egregore' Is Not Something
Out of the "Shrek" Movie

Never the Less Old Tropes
And Memes
May Truly

Come to Life!

Sort of Like When
Science Fiction Precedes
Actual Science Instituted Reality;

It's Not Uncommon For Humans to Write
Stories and Actually Bring them to Life;

It's What Imagination And Creativity
Set Free Does as Dreams Do
Eventually HuMaNiFesT

in Fruition of Reality
As Humans Come
Together

And Write
Stories and
Actually Bring them
into Existence for Real;

Sort of Like Da Vinci's Pics
of Helicopters and Of Course

What is More Than Likely a Self-Portrait
Of His Long Haired Eccentric Style During
An Era Where Long Hair Wasn't in Style No

('Last Supper' Such An 'Effete Dude' With A Beard)

Different; Not Really than the Toxic-Patriachal Age
Of Jesus Setting Women Apart From Men AS Such Yes

It's True in 'the Last Supper' This Way At Least through
Art Da Vinci Brought Jesus to Life And Continued Worship

It Seems For His
Likeness too in
Portrait Story too

Continuing on Bended Knee ThiS Way;

One Way for An Eccentric Dude to Establish A LeGacY For Real;

Ain't Humans Fascinating Little Critters; Yes, i Do Believe They Are...

Anyway Yes; 'They' Already Tried to Get Rid of the Story of Jesus in the
Movie
'The Book of Eli' As They Determined That it Was Truly A Dangerous

Story that Folks Bonded And 'Bended Over' to Destroy Civilization With
A Nuclear War as True Continuing to Forecast the End of the World and

Believing in it
Makes the Potential
of that Egregore coming
to Reality Indeed too As

Yep Once Again Human Stories Come
To Fruition and Make Our Realities

Now True YUCK!

And Even False!
too by Example
of the Trump Big
Lie Becoming Holy
And Sacred Praised
And Given Great Thanks
For in Halls of Evangelistic
Fundamentalistic Literal White
And Black Seeing Lies in Big Get
Togethers Celebrating Trump's Big Lie Still Today!

Anyway Denzel Washington Playing the Part of 'Eli'
Had A Big Surprise for the Folks Who Tried to Steal the

Last Copy on Earth of the Old King James Version of the Bible
in His Possession Protected By Sword As Come to Find Out Eli Who
Wore really Cool Sun Glasses Was Actually Blind and the Book Was in Braille
That No One Else Had the Ability to Read and it Didn't Matter Anyway As Eli

Had a Savant
Skill Sort of Like
Mine for Close to Photographic
Memory of Text As Yes He Waited

Until He Went to SanFrancisco

The Last Place They Wore Enough
Flowers in their Hair to Repeat Back

The Book Somewhere it Wouldn't Be Used
to Destroy Living Nature on Earth Again it

Was a Pretty Good Story Yet Same Old Stories Bore me

to Practical Death in Life

As my Bible is an Original
And the Longest Long Form
Poem at 10.6 MiLLioN Words
of Effort Now in 106 Months For
Real All Fully Documented of Course
As Real Books Naturally Come to Life of Course;

Do the Frigging Math That's the Size of Writing a
King James Size Effort on Average Every 8 Months

(13 Times Over in Size Over the Span of 106 Months)

And in the Last 6 Years Since 2016, 8 MiLLioN Words
At Almost a King James Size Effort; Yes, Every 7 Months

And Yes it Might be Hard to Believe Until You Start Counting
The Words i Even Write As A Side Story, 8th New Testament
Named the "Depth of the Story" Just For Fun And a Free Give
Away on the Wrong Planet as it too Will Soon Be Close to 1.8 MiLLioN
Words on August 19th, 2022, in 2 Years of Just A Part of What i've Written in the Last Two

Years As Long
As "SonG oF mY
SoUL" A Never Ending
Story Long Form Bible Poem
Continuing to Rise this Way For Real

ALong With 16,788 Miles of Public Dance in 105 Months;
Yes in Autotelic Flow of Ecstatic Meditative Free Dance
As That Regulates All Emotions; Yes, Integrates All
Senses Increasing Laser Focus And Short Term
Working Memory And Long Term Retrieval of
Memories As Science Shows Even Short
Regular Spurts of Meditation in Flow
Will Increase Creative Output by
500 Percent; Yet in My Case
Almost Every Second of
Every Day i Do This Now
in Just Another "Day in the Life" of Me; Yes,

aS Only A Personal Bible As Such As We LiVE iN
A Day And An Age Where Anyone May Bring the
Egregore of Jesus And or TRuMP, ETc... Back to Life Now New

Or Old Choose Your Story

Wisely Be Very

Cautious What

You Really Bring to Life

Moral oF A STory For Now.

Sadly, So Far, a Core of Evangelistic
Christians Continue to Bring TRuMP Back to Life;

Just Because They BeLiEVE iN His Story They Swallowed Bait, Hook, Line,
And Sinker (Yuck Grinch 10 Times Bigger Stink, Stank, Stunk For Real!)
A True 'Father oF All Lies' Biggest Lie Once Again Happy Father's Day

And

Juneteenth

As It's True My Little
1.8 MiLLioN Word Effort
Likely Coming Soon Enough on August 19th Even on the ''Wrong Planet'
in A Two Year Anniversary of Doing that Just Cause i Can And Will Do It Now.

Hey What Can i Dance
And Sing Dancing Singing
Is My Special Interest Free

It's What Us Autistic Folks Do;

Painting a Sistine Chapel Again or
Retelling A Same Old God Damning Story

THAT Ain't No Special Interest for me i Do More;
i 'Just Do it' NoW FOR REAL

Without Even
Selling

Any
American
Made Shoes...

i Already Finished
the Race And Kept
my Faith Long Ago...

Long Ago Indeed 107
Months Ago on this Date
on July 19, 2013 RiSinG out
oF A Real 66 Month HeLL ON EartH...

This is Just Icing on All of that Soul Cake....

For
FREE...

And Love of
Course that
is Actually Real and
True and Living iNCaRNaTE Now NeW!...

-me

my Only Child and Son Died on July 24, 1997
Born on June 4th, 1997 His Name Was Ryan
And Yes That Means (Little King) Although

i Didn't Plan that meaning, Either As Such
For What Frederick Means in German Either
As Sure That Was His Middle Name as Well;

Never the Less, God Yes! Happy Father's Day
to me; i Don't Wait for Affirmation From

Anyone
Else Yes!

i Just Do me
And That's Naked
Enough Whole Complete!

-me2

And Here's that Other
'Book of Eli' Just For Reference
And Other Book Shelf Purposes...

For the
Old
Record
Books of Course...

-me3

And 'The Rise
of Gru' And all
That DarK Jazz too...

After All is Said and Done; Danced And
Sung; It'S Only A Body of Words Come to Life
And Breath Inhaling Peace ExhalinG Love For Real Now...

HoMe...

Yes,

-US All of Us
~Whenever Ya Arrive Now too..

(PS: This That's A God WinK)

Anyway Gotta Go Before i'm
Late to Church Barely Getting
THeRE For the Homily Again Every
God Damn Week it seems Lately, Hehe...

Never
the Less
Soon Enough For

-me now

Just Killing Time For Real...

Killing Every Frigging Second Forevernow...

~See Ya Later...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_rN21oKxSE

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I was a biology graduate when the out of Africa theory became first public news in 1991. Population genetics + Y chromosome lineage and mitochondrial DNA lineage all independently demonstrated the same pattern, all humans originated from a stock of Homo Sapiens in Africa. With time the original separation of the groups shortened and in early 2000s they were saying it was recent as a mere 50,000 years ago.

The country at the time most against this theory was China. It was in the news and I followed the rebuttals. Chinese archaeologists stuck with archaeological finds that Peking man insisting Chinese people originated in China. My understanding is that line has not changed. A lot of people in the west assumed because it was unpalatable for Chinese to imagine they could be descended from black people.

I'm a Star Wars fan and my understanding is this was a decision made by Disney Corp. When JJ Abrams originally cast Boyega as Finn the intention was to make him front and centre of the Trilogy franchise, a former storm trooper who was moved by the force to leave the empire and join the rebellion. The female cast Rey (played by Daisy Ridley) was mean't to be his sidekick and potentially his love interest. What happened while they were filming the first movie was when they published marketing posters mean't for east Asia there was a consensus among Disney executives that east Asian audiences would not take to Finn as a main character and that further, the decision to have an interracial relationship would ruin the franchise with American Star was fans. So not only was Finn's character reduced halfway in the first movie into a cowardly comedic side character but the relationship between Finn and Rey would turn Platonic. As Finn's character was relegated to the periphery, two other characters became prominent - Po (who had a curiously Chinese name) and Kylo Ren (who also had a name reminiscent of a Japanese samurai). Ren would become Rey's love interest.

Why did Disney do it? because the east asian market is a very big one. Everyone (including Boyega) knew it was happening, Profit before Plot line.

I am very confused. I'm not sure about Korea and Japan.

My impression is that in China, when it comes to talking about the race of actors in American films, the main argument is the lack of blacks and Asians as protagonists in American films.

Another criticism is that even if colored people appear in films, they often only appear as mascots that provide diverse proportions. As functional characters to assist white protagonists, or act completely in the culture of white Americans, or are full of (malicious) stereotypes - the last case is usually used to describe East Asian men.

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The east Asian market (including Korea and Japan) carry similar views of American films, If a person wants to pay to see an American film they expect to see attractive white people as the main protaganists.This is no different to South Asians or west Asians. Boyega's casting conflicted with potential profit margins for the movie franchise. Hence the poster image of Finn was reduced to a mere side character to ensure Daisey Ridley and Adam Driver's faces were front and centre to attract audiences through the box office.

Black Panther is different. Although it was a MCU movie, it was cast in Africa so an audience would expect to see black actors playing the main protagonists.

This may represent the idea of some Chinese people. But I don't understand why it is considered the idea of the Chinese market.
Green Book has also been widely shown in China.

We may hope that a European film will be more white instead of deliberate diversification a way contrary to history.
But most people don't think that white people should represent America.


The absurdity of criticizing the Chinese people for their greater malice towards blacks lies in that China is more anti-US in general, and US racism, especially racism against blacks, is obviously an effective criticism tool.

Disney Corp are one of the largest companies in the world, They don't usually mistakes when it comes to maximising profit margins. They read the market. That's all I can say.

Green Book is a biographical movie about a black classical piano player. There are plenty of Hollywood biographical movies involving black characters but they are biopics.

If you're talking about this one of these posters - I'd say it narrows down the black character...and Two non-human characters and one white character were removed, with the important role in the upper left corner changes the posture and reduces the sense of existence.
And the use of these blanks to significantly enhanced various sci-fi or combat elements.

Obviously, we can see what their interpretation of the Chinese market is. Love grand scenes and epic feeling.

I don't understand why among so many changes, only the "downsizing" of black characters has been obsessed. He has a huge poster of his own.

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You need to ask Disney Corp. As I said they don't make mistakes when it comes to reading the market.

A big piece of evidence of manipulation is Harrison Ford's character Han Solo (another Chinese name ) getting blown up twice the size of Finn despite Han having a small role in the series.