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03 Sep 2023, 11:13 pm

I just now came across the following article: Is J.K. Rowling transphobic? Let’s let her speak for herself: An exhausting — if not exhaustive — timeline of J.K. Rowling’s transphobia, by Aja Romano, Vox, Mar 16, 2023.


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04 Sep 2023, 5:32 pm

I'd, uh, be a little cautious about using that particular source if I were you, kinda like putting an exploding cigar in your own mouth and lighting up.


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04 Sep 2023, 5:51 pm

What source are you referring to? The author (Aja Romano) specifically, or Vox generally?

And what are your specific concerns about the source? As far as you can tell, for example, is J.K. Rowling misquoted in any way?


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04 Sep 2023, 7:23 pm

The biggest reason to not give her money is that she may be helping to fund the anti-trans lobby.
Neither my sister nor I are cis-gendered. This affects me/loved ones quite directly.

She's not only not an ally - if it were just that on its own? I don't care. My mom is not an ally and I still love her - there are mixed feelings, but I don't think she's a bad person. Because people are complex af. But Rowling is actively making life harder for us, she has quite literally made herself an outspoken enemy.

For me, if I ever get into Harry Potter I will read the books second hand, or find a way to pirate them. But at this point it's unlikely I will bother.

I do dislike those who are being unkind to trans-allied HP fans. I believe you can still consume it responsibly, but it would involve sacrifices like not buying merch directly or at all.


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21 Apr 2024, 11:23 am

J.K. Rowling didn’t want to be called a Holocaust denier. That backfired.

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The Streisand effect is a phenomenon that occurs when someone attempts to hide information but winds up boosting it to far more eyes. The name comes from the time Barbra Streisand tried to suppress a picture of her house. The lawsuit against the photographers ended up garnering far more attention than the original photo, which was not a paparazzi pic — just an aerial photograph taken to document erosion — ever would have.

Another famous woman is currently in the middle of a massive Streisand Effect right now: J.K. Rowling.

“J.K. Rowling is a Holocaust denier” trended on X this week.

But why — or more accurately, why now? A few weeks ago, discourse surged around Rowling after the author tweeted alleging that Nazis did not target trans people. People immediately corrected the record — Nazis did target trans people, including pillaging and burning a library full of research on gender — and many noted that Rowling’s original allegation amounted to Holocaust denial.

The renewed hubbub is due to a tweet from British Jewish journalist Rivkah Brown. “On 13 March I tweeted that JK Rowling ‘is a Holocaust denier,’” she posted. “That allegation was false and offensive. I have deleted it and apologize to JK Rowling.”

This apology was transparently a response to the threat of litigation. During the original clamor about Rowling and Nazi persecution of trans people, Brown tweeted: “J.K. Rowling is questioning the well-documented fact that Nazis targeted trans people. She’s now a Holocaust denier.” In response, Rowling tweeted: “I’d be delighted to meet you in court, Rivkah, to discuss Holocaust denial.”

Brown said in an email that Rowling’s legal team demanded not only that she delete the tweet, but apologize. Brown said that she lacks “the financial resources to engage in a legal battle with Rowling,” so she issued the apology.

When Brown’s apology went live, people on X assumed there had been a legal threat, and began tweeting the same claim that she had retracted.

They could because of a difference in libel laws between the U.S., where freedom of speech is protected, and the U.K., which is famed for its restrictive defamation laws. In the U.K., whoever has published a statement bears the burden of proving that it is not just likely to be true, but definitively true — a high bar. Meanwhile, the person claiming injury must only prove that their reputation was damaged in the eyes of “right-thinking members of society.”

The U.K.’s libel laws favor those claiming injury so heavily that those seeking to sue over defamation often become “libel tourists,” bringing their cases in the U.K. even if they live elsewhere. Publishers often refuse to release controversial books in the U.K. for fear of losing a libel suit.

Rowling is well known for leveraging the U.K.’s defamation laws against her critics.“Give my regards to your solicitor!” Rowling replied to an online critic last year who had also noted overlaps between the author’s views and Nazi ideology about gender. They later removed the offending tweet and replaced it with an apology.

Brown said she was concerned that the incident, and others like it, “effectively gives carte blanche to wealthy Holocaust deniers” who have the funds to legally pursue anyone who might call out or correct their statements.

But in the U.S., free speech is heavily protected; claimants must prove not only that a defamatory statement is false, but also that it was disseminated with “malicious intent.” U.S. courts will not enforce U.K. libel rulings unless they comply with U.S. standards of process and free speech.

This allows X users in the U.S. to state their opinions on Rowling’s views openly. And Rowling’s attempts to silence her critics have only encouraged them, and brought accusations of Holocaust denial to a much wider audience.


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21 Apr 2024, 2:12 pm

JK Rowling's Transphobia Wasn't Hard to Find, She Wrote a Book About It


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21 Apr 2024, 3:15 pm

It's funny how I never liked Harry Potter long before all the drama surrounding JK Rowling being a supposed transphobe. Everyone knew I was obsessed with witches and magic as a kid and they thought I would enjoy the books and the movies, but I just didnt like them and I could never put my finger on why that was...

Maybe something in my subconcious picked up on all this many years ago? :lol:


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21 Apr 2024, 3:17 pm

RedDeathFlower13 wrote:
It's funny how I never liked Harry Potter long before all the drama surrounding JK Rowling being a supposed transphobe. Everyone knew I was obsessed with witches and magic as a kid and they thought I would enjoy the books and the movies, but I just didnt like them and I could never put my finger on why that was...

Maybe something in my subconcious picked up on all this many years ago? :lol:


I'm with you on this, although I suspect it was mostly not having available bandwidth to pick-up another interest. :lol:


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21 Apr 2024, 3:22 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
RedDeathFlower13 wrote:
It's funny how I never liked Harry Potter long before all the drama surrounding JK Rowling being a supposed transphobe. Everyone knew I was obsessed with witches and magic as a kid and they thought I would enjoy the books and the movies, but I just didnt like them and I could never put my finger on why that was...

Maybe something in my subconcious picked up on all this many years ago? :lol:


I'm with you on this, although I suspect it was mostly not having available bandwidth to pick-up another interest. :lol:


Haha yes that too. Sometimes I forget I'm autistic. :P I always have a hard time picking up a new interest myself. :lol:


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21 Apr 2024, 3:38 pm

RedDeathFlower13 wrote:

Haha yes that too. Sometimes I forget I'm autistic. :P I always have a hard time picking up a new interest myself. :lol:


I feel like autism makes our interests each take up quite a bit of space on the plate, I wonder if that makes it harder to pick up new ones because there's no room for them. :nerdy:


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21 Apr 2024, 3:45 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
RedDeathFlower13 wrote:

Haha yes that too. Sometimes I forget I'm autistic. :P I always have a hard time picking up a new interest myself. :lol:


I feel like autism makes our interests each take up quite a bit of space on the plate, I wonder if that makes it harder to pick up new ones because there's no room for them. :nerdy:


That would make sense. Plus I dont know how it is for other people with autism but for me personally it's like I have the hardest time making myself try anything new because I'm afraid it will be something I absolutely hate, and the entertainment I hate tends to stick in my mind a lot more. :lol:


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21 Apr 2024, 3:47 pm

RedDeathFlower13 wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
RedDeathFlower13 wrote:

Haha yes that too. Sometimes I forget I'm autistic. :P I always have a hard time picking up a new interest myself. :lol:


I feel like autism makes our interests each take up quite a bit of space on the plate, I wonder if that makes it harder to pick up new ones because there's no room for them. :nerdy:


That would make sense. Plus I dont know how it is for other people with autism but for me personally it's like I have the hardest time making myself try anything new because I'm afraid it will be something I absolutely hate, and the entertainment I hate tends to stick in my mind a lot more. :lol:


I can relate to that. That's me with entertainment, at restaurants and a lot of other scenarios too. :lol:

Life's too short to waste time being disappointed. :lol:


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21 Apr 2024, 6:21 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
RedDeathFlower13 wrote:

Haha yes that too. Sometimes I forget I'm autistic. :P I always have a hard time picking up a new interest myself. :lol:


I feel like autism makes our interests each take up quite a bit of space on the plate, I wonder if that makes it harder to pick up new ones because there's no room for them. :nerdy:

I think so.


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22 Apr 2024, 12:30 pm

My youngest son was 10 years old when the first Harry Potter movie arrived at the cinema. He was a little to young then but we watched it at home together a year later. I read the books aloud for him. When he got older we watched the movies together at the cinema. I never would have watched the movies or read the books if not for my kids. From the very beginning I thought of Severius Snape as the misunderstood hero. He was the only character in the story I cared for. When I later read that he was based on an autistic teacher Rowling had in school it made perfect sense to me. JK Rowling seems to be an evil person but, apart from some fat shaming and similar stuff, I think that's pretty well hidden in the Potter story.


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