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12 Sep 2022, 1:56 pm
I think the Gaia Hypothesis is a tainted metaphor that looks too selectively at the evidence. Yes there are some instances of life changing the environment to make it more liveable, but there are also plenty of life making the environment worse, with humanity of course being the worst offenders but far from the only ones.
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12 Sep 2022, 3:35 pm
I remembered that the discussion was bleak, I forgot just how bleak:
Daniel Schmachtenberger brought up that some thinkers in India are considering global warming by western countries and it's environmental impacts on the Indian subcontinent as 'negligent genocide' and he had to admit - that framing of the situation isn't inaccurate. Regardless, above, here's two well-off white guys effectively saying that it's going to happen no matter what, there will be winners and losers, and nature will sort out the difference the way it always has. This might be where India, if they're savvy, grows their stockpile of nuclear weapons and starts amputating a random major US or European city based on a lottery system for every year that the problem isn't fixed (after all - that's just as natural as hundreds of millions of people starving).
_________________ “Love takes off the masks that we fear we cannot live without and know we cannot live within. I use the word "love" here not merely in the personal sense but as a state of being, or a state of grace - not in the infantile American sense of being made happy but in the tough and universal sense of quest and daring and growth.” - James Baldwin
Joined: 27 Jan 2010 Age: 29 Gender: Male Posts: 8,811 Location: London
12 Sep 2022, 3:42 pm
techstepgenr8tion wrote:
This might be where India, if they're savvy, grows their stockpile of nuclear weapons and starts amputating a random major US or European city based on a lottery system for every year that the problem isn't fixed (after all - that's just as natural as hundreds of millions of people starving).
I don’t think declaring nuclear war is going to solve anything.
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12 Sep 2022, 3:43 pm
The_Walrus wrote:
I don’t think declaring nuclear war is going to solve anything.
It's definitely a way to get taken seriously.
_________________ “Love takes off the masks that we fear we cannot live without and know we cannot live within. I use the word "love" here not merely in the personal sense but as a state of being, or a state of grace - not in the infantile American sense of being made happy but in the tough and universal sense of quest and daring and growth.” - James Baldwin
12 Sep 2022, 1:22 pm
