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catspurr
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11 Mar 2008, 10:04 pm

I know all three candidates left have spoken for national service and have plans to promote it but I feel that it will become mandatory.

This affects ages 18-40 and plans for even the elderly in the future. You can choose between military service or civilian services for the government. Those suffering with mental disabilities will not be excluded and nor will the handicapped.

Anyone have information on this?

Hillary, Obama, Mccain all like this idea. Ron Paul is still in the race regardless of the blackout but of course they still leave Huckabee up for voting even though he dropped out :roll:



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12 Mar 2008, 12:18 am

I wanted to join the military when I was younger, but they turned me down. Something about how I wasn't pretty enough. Okay, I was overweight by twenty pounds, and they wanted me to work for free before being allowed to join -- screw that! I don't do contract work before a contract is written.

The downside is that this everybody-is-in-the-government idea is organized by the government. It means that citizens will be "encouraged" to fit inside ever-shrinking boxes, and their individuality will be cut off without them wanting it cut off.

It reeks of dictatorship. Say you are a soldier, and you have to follow your leader. Today, not such a bad thing. If everybody is like that, following orders, when their boss -pousa- tells them to vote for him, they have to vote for him. Capicse? It doesn't start that way, but lots of times, it ends that way with nations.



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12 Mar 2008, 1:22 am

haven't they ever heard of the 13th ammendment to the constitution?



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28 Dec 2022, 4:56 pm

If National Service was applied in an employment context instead of military it would work better.
Very simple - give people a basic sense of duty and responsibility, give them basic skills such as being able to grow food and maintain basic infrastructure. Throw in a sprinkling of "noblesse oblige" as well.



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28 Dec 2022, 5:03 pm

Would possibly consider this a good idea .......^^^^^ .. Possibly helping out our current immigration situation.?usa


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28 Dec 2022, 6:32 pm

I gladly gave up six years of my life to Military service in exchange for free tuition, free medical and dental care, and no-down-payment housing purchases.  There was nothing "Socialist" about this simple quid-pro-quo agreement.



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28 Dec 2022, 6:50 pm

catspurr wrote:
I know all three candidates left have spoken for national service and have plans to promote it but I feel that it will become mandatory.

This affects ages 18-40 and plans for even the elderly in the future. You can choose between military service or civilian services for the government. Those suffering with mental disabilities will not be excluded and nor will the handicapped.

Anyone have information on this?

Hillary, Obama, Mccain all like this idea. Ron Paul is still in the race regardless of the blackout but of course they still leave Huckabee up for voting even though he dropped out :roll:

I would refuse to serve in the military if we were in a war that was not declared by Congress even if it was mandatory national service.



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28 Dec 2022, 7:01 pm

Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
I would refuse to serve in the military if we were in a war that was not declared by Congress even if it was mandatory national service.
Then you would forfeit the benefits I mentioned, and likely be "blacklisted" from government work forever.

This would include working for any company that has contracts with the federal government, from the top five (e.g., Lockheed Martin, Boeing, General Dynamics, Raytheon Company, and Northrop Grumman) to some that may surprise you -- FedEx, MacDonald's, KFC, and the owners of most grocery-store chains.



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28 Dec 2022, 7:12 pm

Fnord wrote:
Texasmoneyman300 wrote:
I would refuse to serve in the military if we were in a war that was not declared by Congress even if it was mandatory national service.
Then you would forfeit the benefits I mentioned, and likely be "blacklisted" from government work forever.

This would include working for any company that has contracts with the federal government, from the top five (e.g., Lockheed Martin, Boeing, General Dynamics, Raytheon Company, and Northrop Grumman) to some that may surprise you -- FedEx, MacDonald's, KFC, and the owners of most grocery-store chains.

Thats fine with me if thats the price I must pay to avoid getting shot in a illegal war.I will just live off my trust fund if I cant make a living if I get blacklisted by the gov for that.



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30 Dec 2022, 10:35 am

I've spent my whole childhood and teenage years with adults yelling at me. I'm not going through it again with some drill Sargent just because it's mandatory that I join some service.

Just shoot me.


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30 Dec 2022, 10:42 am

Will I have to do this or is it just in America? I don't want to be forced to do something like that.

EDIT: Just seen the date this thread was created - 2008 - so it's an old piece of information that I needn't waste my energy panicking about.

This is what happens when new members bump old topics like this. There needs to be a rule on this really.


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