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18 Mar 2023, 8:06 am
Dengashinobi wrote:
I don't think that going after opposition leaders is a good sign for democracy. Especially if you consider that also democrat leaders have been involved in recent scandals with government secrets like puppet Joe's degenerate son's laptop
What about his laptop?
Dengashinobi wrote:
and the Biden classified ducuments scandal from his vice presidency, Hillary Clinton's server scandal. Nobody gave a damn for those, the media didn't care, and as good liberal NPC's you are, you didn't care as well.
This was all over the news. What is a NPC?
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18 Mar 2023, 9:47 am
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Dengashinobi wrote:
I don't think that going after opposition leaders is a good sign for democracy. Especially if you consider that also democrat leaders have been involved in recent scandals with government secrets like puppet Joe's degenerate son's laptop
What about his laptop?
Dengashinobi wrote:
and the Biden classified ducuments scandal from his vice presidency, Hillary Clinton's server scandal. Nobody gave a damn for those, the media didn't care, and as good liberal NPC's you are, you didn't care as well.
This was all over the news. What is a NPC?
About the laptop of the degenerate son of the current puppet president search the internet yourself. Don't be lazy. There were indications of corruption associated with Ukraine. Nobody looked after that.
You forget to mention the scandal with the classified documents from Joe Biden's vice presidency. I guess that's ok with you.
Also corrupt Hillary's bathroom server. That was also ok with you.
NPC stands for non-player character in video games. You know, the characters with reprogrammed scripts and behaviour with whom you can interact in a video game. It's an analogy to media brainwashed liberals and others, but the liberals are a spot on example.
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18 Mar 2023, 9:54 am
Ironically most of the people who throw NPC around as an insult seem to vomit up the same ideological talking points like they're running a programmed script.
The same folks who cheer when a celebrity or athlete shares their ideology but scream shut up and dribble when they don't.
The same edgelords who claim to be free speech absolutists until they encounter dissenting opinions or condemnation.
The same folks who ignore Kushner and the little Trumps dealings but want Hunter's laptop to be the number 1 news story.
Basically, it's a good indicator you can laugh off whatever else the person is going to say because they've demonstrated they don't need to be taken seriously.
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18 Mar 2023, 10:08 am
funeralxempire wrote:
Ironically most of the people who throw NPC around as an insult seem to vomit up the same ideological talking points like they're running a programmed script.
The same folks who cheer when a celebrity or athlete shares their ideology but scream shut up and dribble when they don't.
The same edgelords who claim to be free speech absolutists until they encounter dissenting opinions or condemnation.
The same folks who ignore Kushner and the little Trumps dealings but want Hunter's laptop to be the number 1 news story.
Basically, it's a good indicator you can laugh off whatever else the person is going to say because they've demonstrated they don't need to be taken seriously.
The same folks who cheer when a celebrity or athlete shares their ideology but scream shut up and dribble when they don't.
The same edgelords who claim to be free speech absolutists until they encounter dissenting opinions or condemnation.
The same folks who ignore Kushner and the little Trumps dealings but want Hunter's laptop to be the number 1 news story.
Basically, it's a good indicator you can laugh off whatever else the person is going to say because they've demonstrated they don't need to be taken seriously.
All good but meanwhile you are saying this in a thread that is cheering about Trumps upcoming possible punishment while at the same time you have democrat leaders who qualify for the same punishment. Don't be two faced, either let Trump be or punish him along with Hillary, Biden and many others.
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18 Mar 2023, 10:13 am
Dengashinobi wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Ironically most of the people who throw NPC around as an insult seem to vomit up the same ideological talking points like they're running a programmed script.
The same folks who cheer when a celebrity or athlete shares their ideology but scream shut up and dribble when they don't.
The same edgelords who claim to be free speech absolutists until they encounter dissenting opinions or condemnation.
The same folks who ignore Kushner and the little Trumps dealings but want Hunter's laptop to be the number 1 news story.
Basically, it's a good indicator you can laugh off whatever else the person is going to say because they've demonstrated they don't need to be taken seriously.
The same folks who cheer when a celebrity or athlete shares their ideology but scream shut up and dribble when they don't.
The same edgelords who claim to be free speech absolutists until they encounter dissenting opinions or condemnation.
The same folks who ignore Kushner and the little Trumps dealings but want Hunter's laptop to be the number 1 news story.
Basically, it's a good indicator you can laugh off whatever else the person is going to say because they've demonstrated they don't need to be taken seriously.
All good but meanwhile you are saying this in a thread that is cheering about Trumps upcoming possible punishment while at the same time you have democrat leaders who qualify for the same punishment. Don't be two faced, either let Trump be or punish him along with Hillary, Biden and many others.
Should people not be grateful that the criminal might finally be held accountable?
By your logic no criminal should ever face consequences because some criminals will never face consequences.
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18 Mar 2023, 10:41 am
Dengashinobi wrote:
Also corrupt Hillary's bathroom server. That was also ok with you.
I suppose the former guy and his demon spawn doing the same thing and more was Ok with you too.But their emails: Seven members of Trump’s team have used unofficial communication tools
The Use of Private Email and Chats, This Time by Trump’s Family, Comes Under Fire
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18 Mar 2023, 12:19 pm
funeralxempire wrote:
Dengashinobi wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Ironically most of the people who throw NPC around as an insult seem to vomit up the same ideological talking points like they're running a programmed script.
The same folks who cheer when a celebrity or athlete shares their ideology but scream shut up and dribble when they don't.
The same edgelords who claim to be free speech absolutists until they encounter dissenting opinions or condemnation.
The same folks who ignore Kushner and the little Trumps dealings but want Hunter's laptop to be the number 1 news story.
Basically, it's a good indicator you can laugh off whatever else the person is going to say because they've demonstrated they don't need to be taken seriously.
The same folks who cheer when a celebrity or athlete shares their ideology but scream shut up and dribble when they don't.
The same edgelords who claim to be free speech absolutists until they encounter dissenting opinions or condemnation.
The same folks who ignore Kushner and the little Trumps dealings but want Hunter's laptop to be the number 1 news story.
Basically, it's a good indicator you can laugh off whatever else the person is going to say because they've demonstrated they don't need to be taken seriously.
All good but meanwhile you are saying this in a thread that is cheering about Trumps upcoming possible punishment while at the same time you have democrat leaders who qualify for the same punishment. Don't be two faced, either let Trump be or punish him along with Hillary, Biden and many others.
Should people not be grateful that the criminal might finally be held accountable?
By your logic no criminal should ever face consequences because some criminals will never face consequences.
I don't understand. Are you asking if Trump shouldn't be held accountable because neither Biden and Hillary weren't? My answer is yes. Or you hold them all accountable. You can't have double standards.
18 Mar 2023, 12:21 pm
Cornflake wrote:
Dengashinobi wrote:
Also corrupt Hillary's bathroom server. That was also ok with you.
I suppose the former guy and his demon spawn doing the same thing and more was Ok with you too.But their emails: Seven members of Trump’s team have used unofficial communication tools
The Use of Private Email and Chats, This Time by Trump’s Family, Comes Under Fire
Either hold Biden and Hillary accountable or none. You can't have double standards.
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18 Mar 2023, 12:24 pm
Dengashinobi wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Dengashinobi wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Ironically most of the people who throw NPC around as an insult seem to vomit up the same ideological talking points like they're running a programmed script.
The same folks who cheer when a celebrity or athlete shares their ideology but scream shut up and dribble when they don't.
The same edgelords who claim to be free speech absolutists until they encounter dissenting opinions or condemnation.
The same folks who ignore Kushner and the little Trumps dealings but want Hunter's laptop to be the number 1 news story.
Basically, it's a good indicator you can laugh off whatever else the person is going to say because they've demonstrated they don't need to be taken seriously.
The same folks who cheer when a celebrity or athlete shares their ideology but scream shut up and dribble when they don't.
The same edgelords who claim to be free speech absolutists until they encounter dissenting opinions or condemnation.
The same folks who ignore Kushner and the little Trumps dealings but want Hunter's laptop to be the number 1 news story.
Basically, it's a good indicator you can laugh off whatever else the person is going to say because they've demonstrated they don't need to be taken seriously.
All good but meanwhile you are saying this in a thread that is cheering about Trumps upcoming possible punishment while at the same time you have democrat leaders who qualify for the same punishment. Don't be two faced, either let Trump be or punish him along with Hillary, Biden and many others.
Should people not be grateful that the criminal might finally be held accountable?
By your logic no criminal should ever face consequences because some criminals will never face consequences.
I don't understand. Are you asking if Trump shouldn't be held accountable because neither Biden and Hillary weren't? My answer is yes. Or you hold them all accountable. You can't have double standards.
I'm saying you hold criminals accountable as criminal cases emerge.
What criminal charges have been levelled against the other two?
It seems like you'd like to have the standard be Republicans can only be prosecuted if Democrats are also prosecuted, even if no criminal charges are applicable to the Democrats.
It seems like you're demanding Trump walks unless the non-criminals I dislike are also treated as criminals just because.
You're insisting unequal situations be treated as equals.
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18 Mar 2023, 12:49 pm
funeralxempire wrote:
Dengashinobi wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Dengashinobi wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Ironically most of the people who throw NPC around as an insult seem to vomit up the same ideological talking points like they're running a programmed script.
The same folks who cheer when a celebrity or athlete shares their ideology but scream shut up and dribble when they don't.
The same edgelords who claim to be free speech absolutists until they encounter dissenting opinions or condemnation.
The same folks who ignore Kushner and the little Trumps dealings but want Hunter's laptop to be the number 1 news story.
Basically, it's a good indicator you can laugh off whatever else the person is going to say because they've demonstrated they don't need to be taken seriously.
The same folks who cheer when a celebrity or athlete shares their ideology but scream shut up and dribble when they don't.
The same edgelords who claim to be free speech absolutists until they encounter dissenting opinions or condemnation.
The same folks who ignore Kushner and the little Trumps dealings but want Hunter's laptop to be the number 1 news story.
Basically, it's a good indicator you can laugh off whatever else the person is going to say because they've demonstrated they don't need to be taken seriously.
All good but meanwhile you are saying this in a thread that is cheering about Trumps upcoming possible punishment while at the same time you have democrat leaders who qualify for the same punishment. Don't be two faced, either let Trump be or punish him along with Hillary, Biden and many others.
Should people not be grateful that the criminal might finally be held accountable?
By your logic no criminal should ever face consequences because some criminals will never face consequences.
I don't understand. Are you asking if Trump shouldn't be held accountable because neither Biden and Hillary weren't? My answer is yes. Or you hold them all accountable. You can't have double standards.
I'm saying you hold criminals accountable as criminal cases emerge.
What criminal charges have been levelled against the other two?
It seems like you'd like to have the standard be Republicans can only be prosecuted if Democrats are also prosecuted, even if no criminal charges are applicable to the Democrats.
It seems like you're demanding Trump walks unless the non-criminals I dislike are also treated as criminals just because.
You're insisting unequal situations be treated as equals.
Ah ok so Trump being charged for having done the exact same thing that Biden and Hillary did is different because the other two were covered up. That's exactly what I'm saying. Same deeds, different outcomes. That's unjust and dishonest.
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18 Mar 2023, 12:57 pm
Dengashinobi wrote:
Ah ok so Trump being charged for having done the exact same thing that Biden and Hillary did is different because the other two were covered up. That's exactly what I'm saying. Same deeds, different outcomes. That's unjust and dishonest.
Except that's not what's occurred, for starters.
But beyond that, sufficient evidence has to exist in order to begin criminal proceedings. Insisting that a lack of evidence is due to a cover-up doesn't make it so. Prosecutors can't act if they don't have sufficient evidence.
It's dishonest to insist unequal deeds are the exact same thing.
It's unjust to insist someone be punished simply because you don't like them, regardless of if adequate evidence to initial criminal proceedings exists.
Trump has to take responsibility for his actions just like anyone else. No amount of deflection is going to alter that.
If sufficient evidence to pursue Clinton or Biden exists, they too should be held responsible - but only if; not just because conservatives demand it.
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18 Mar 2023, 1:16 pm
Dengashinobi wrote:
I don't think that going after opposition leaders is a good sign for democracy. Especially if you consider that also democrat leaders have been involved in recent scandals with government secrets like puppet Joe's degenerate son's laptop and the Biden classified ducuments scandal from his vice presidency, Hillary Clinton's server scandal. Nobody gave a damn for those, the media didn't care, and as good liberal NPC's you are, you didn't care as well.
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18 Mar 2023, 1:20 pm
funeralxempire wrote:
Dengashinobi wrote:
Ah ok so Trump being charged for having done the exact same thing that Biden and Hillary did is different because the other two were covered up. That's exactly what I'm saying. Same deeds, different outcomes. That's unjust and dishonest.
Except that's not what's occurred, for starters.
But beyond that, sufficient evidence has to exist in order to begin criminal proceedings. Insisting that a lack of evidence is due to a cover-up doesn't make it so. Prosecutors can't act if they don't have sufficient evidence.
It's dishonest to insist unequal deeds are the exact same thing.
It's unjust to insist someone be punished simply because you don't like them, regardless of if adequate evidence to initial criminal proceedings exists.
Trump has to take responsibility for his actions just like anyone else. No amount of deflection is going to alter that.
If sufficient evidence to pursue Clinton or Biden exists, they too should be held responsible - but only if; not just because conservatives demand it.
Dude, they have literally found a freaking box with classified documents in Biden's case and a freaking server in Hillary's case. Nothing got done about that. Your argument would be valid if we assume that the prosecutors are perfectly impartial.
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18 Mar 2023, 2:01 pm
Dengashinobi wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Dengashinobi wrote:
Ah ok so Trump being charged for having done the exact same thing that Biden and Hillary did is different because the other two were covered up. That's exactly what I'm saying. Same deeds, different outcomes. That's unjust and dishonest.
Except that's not what's occurred, for starters.
But beyond that, sufficient evidence has to exist in order to begin criminal proceedings. Insisting that a lack of evidence is due to a cover-up doesn't make it so. Prosecutors can't act if they don't have sufficient evidence.
It's dishonest to insist unequal deeds are the exact same thing.
It's unjust to insist someone be punished simply because you don't like them, regardless of if adequate evidence to initial criminal proceedings exists.
Trump has to take responsibility for his actions just like anyone else. No amount of deflection is going to alter that.
If sufficient evidence to pursue Clinton or Biden exists, they too should be held responsible - but only if; not just because conservatives demand it.
Dude, they have literally found a freaking box with classified documents in Biden's case and a freaking server in Hillary's case. Nothing got done about that. Your argument would be valid if we assume that the prosecutors are perfectly impartial.
I seem to recall Hillary's server receiving extensive attention and the investigation was wrapped up. Should double-jeopardy not apply because you don't like the result?
Joe and a bunch of others were found to have classified documents, it appears to be a pretty widespread problem considering where they've found papers from some previous administrations. That said, Donald Trump's case differs in many serious details that are relevant for understanding why his case has received for scrutiny.
But beyond that, that's only one of many of Trump's legal quandaries. There's plenty of other reasons why he might end up going to prison. If he's convicted of some other issue and the classified documents case ends up not being prosecuted, wouldn't that negate your entire argument about hypocrisy?
Trump has engaged in far more, and far more blatant criminal activity. Your entire complaint only sounds reasonable when this basic fact is ignored.
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