How British are the Windsors?

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I knew that the so called "Windsors" are really the "Saxe-Coberg-Gothas" or whatever their heavily Teutonic sounding real name is that they were forced to change in the First World War.

But thats interesting that the pendulum is swinging back, and that marrying commoners helps bring it back to ReBritishization of the British Royal Family. In fact sticking with the old ways of royals only marrying other royals had to go because Europe has lost most of its Royal families. Besides Denmark there is the Netherlands. And then there is Monaco (which isnt a real country, and its monarchs are not "real royals" supposedly). And I believe that that is it. Both of those countries are of the same all German family as the British royals. And the gene pool is even shallower now than it was in the days when all of Europe was monarchies.

Also interesting is that lady who was part African centuries back.Apparently Megan was NOT the first part Black British royal.

The 1701 Act of Settlement also greatly reduced the prospective gene pool for British royals--no Catholics, and most of the continent is still Catholic.

Best to not marry into the Hapsburgs.

The Windsors obviously have recent north-west German ancestry but given the population of Britain (both English and Celtic) share common DNA with people from the same region anyway the point is moot.

The original ancestral paleolithic population who are the first Britians who built stonehenge were largely wiped out A small fraction (10%?) of maternal DNA in modern Britains is retained from that population which might be missing from the Windsors genome.

So when King Charles visits the Salisbury plain he'll be a foreigner to places like Stonehenge.

Most British families contain immigrants.

If you have British citizenship then you're British, end of story.

Nailed it.

Debating over whether they count as ethnically English wouldn't impact whether or not they're British.

Actually even if it did matter it wouldnt matter because the Monarchy system in Europe is based on class, and not on nationality.

Our professor in "History of the Far East" said that for a Chinese emperor to marry the crowned head of a neighboring country in Asia (Like Thalland or Japan or Korea) would be "to marry someone who was lower than the lowest Chinese".

In contrast the kings of Europe couldnt marry commoners of their own country and HAD to marry only thier equals...meaning only other royals...which by definition would mean...only foreigners. So within a few generations the national origin of the rulers ceased to correlate with the countries they ruled.

Most of the royal families of Europe were predominantly N/W European. Even the kings and queens of Spain, Italy and Greece had little indigenous blood. Remember Phillip the Greek? the late father if King Charles was born to the Greek royal family, but he was of Danish and German ancestry.

Yeah. And most of them were the children/grandchildren of Queen Victoria.

And also Eastern Europe. The "Russian" Czar was the same family as the British Royals..which was German.

Greece was only recently freed from the Ottoman Turks, and all of slavic eastern Europe was ruled by either Russia, or by Austria-Hungary until WWI. So those countries didnt have their own kings until after the age of monarchy was over and went straight to being republics even if they had had their own royal dynasties centuries before like Poland.

So a number of historic accidents narrowed down the royal families of Europe (along with guillotines in France, etc).

Oh yes! the Greeks didn't have a king since Constantine XI Palaiologos in 1453. The Turks are today essentially living in what was part of Greece in the Anatolian peninsula.

I am surprised nobody descended from Palaiogos didn't come forward to claim the throne of Greece?

Anatolia was never part of Greece-proper. It was the heart of the Greek Byzantine Empire but not really actual Greece.

Yes. Modern Greece won independence in 1831, and crowned its first modern king that year...prince Otto of Bavaria (south Germany). And he was deposed in 1861, and replaced as king by... a prince from Denmark! Go figure.

The Bavarian king brought his own brewmaster who stayed on after the King got booted out and introduced the Greek people to beer brewing. His brand is probably still drunk there. So Otto did one thing good.

That old question lol. Whatever the history books say they are the dominant family today. From a historical view point its interesting reading about.