The GOP Is the Party of ‘f**k You’

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It was once a political party, now it’s a nihilistic, corrupt, fake populist scam.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-gop-i ... etter%20PM

The reason they're the party of f**k you is because they've worked out there's a subset of voters who find that very appealing.

And other subsets of voters who don't find that appealing but find it the lesser of two evils because
1. They believe RINO's/liberals/progressives/wokes/deep state is worse
2. To get policies they like into law. The ends justify the means.

But....but...but the GOP is an endangered species.

What do you suggest a GOP politician should do?

They have NOTHING to offer any grassroots voter except the promise to "screw you over to benefit the rich".

So since they cant offer anything substantive to working American families all they can do is concoct false issues.

So ..they beat up trans kids and upon drag performers to get the populace riled up- to distract attention from the fact that they have -nothing real to offer!

If you take away fake issues like...scapegoating trans people, and drag queens, then what do you have left in GOPism?

Nothing. So the GOP would go extinct.

If we dont let the GOP exploit nonexistent issues then...we will have to put Republicans into zoos to preserve them!

So you're saying that the GOP also pitches to delusional tin hatters who believe in the existence of the "deep state"?

What do you mean by "policies they like"? What actual reality based "policies" does the GOP have these days? All they do these days is vilify immigrants and vilify the Transgender. At least the Dems take action about reality (ie infrastructure and healthcare).

And which definition of "RINO" are you using? The old definition, or the new Trump definition? Two almost opposite things.

In the old days GOPers would brand a GOPer who was too Liberal as "Republican in name only". But Trump brands ALL traditional Republicans (like Pense, Romney, etc) as "RINOS" because they uphold the rule of law and believe in democracy (both of which Trump wants to dispense with).

So which thing are you opposed to? Are you opposed to democracy and the rule of law? Or are you still living in 2010, and think that John McCain is still alive are just worried about him acting too Democratlike?

Yes


Putting in laws that make it harder for transgenders and banning information about them. That is policy.
Similar with "Critical Race Theory" and Black Lives Matter.
Making it harder and ultimately banning abortion

Having read plenty of conservative media hatred of the "transgender ideology", CRT, and abortion unites most if not all conservatives.



Mostly the Trump version.


This was an analytical opinion post, not a personal opinion post.

The point I was trying to make is there is a segment of 2000s styled Republicans/conservatives who are willing to sell out democracy and all norms to get policies they want to be enacted. They are a major reason why the Republican Party has become an authoritarian party.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGaXnM6 ... PakmanShow

At least they've stopped talking about prayer in schools.

I agree with most of what was said in the video. I disagree with the implication that America is a woke country. Far from it. I think Packman is confusing a live and let attitude with approval. I will use the trans issue since that was brought up in the video. For example a voter might think transgenderism is not normal, treatments and surgery should not happen until a person is older, resents people being canceled for misgendering people, early elementary school is too early to be taught etc. The same voter thinks it is un American to ban teaching about transgenderism especially for older children and college students, thinks it is cruel and unconstitutional to criminalize peoples most personal decisions. The above is just one example, there are different priorities, concurrence and opposition to certain views. The point is live and let live is a libertarian instinct, an instinct that is anything but woke.

Conservative ideology in a nutshell: f**k you, I got mine.

...and I guess I'll take yours too until you work harder.

I might have blamed the schools, but I guess that our teachers are doing the best they can with what they have.

Maybe schools really should focus on critical race theory and wokeness.

Or, maybe it is related to the decline of actual Christian churches.

When Hitler rose to power, it was easy to blame the hardship of the Great Depression. Now, there is no great hardship. We have things softer than ever. Now, people are taken in by Trump, the greatest con-man ever, and think that it is okay to buy military-style assault rifles to shoot up schools and shopping malls.

I'm pretty sure you'd define 'woke' substantially differently from Pakman. Not everyone interprets the word as something inherently illiberal like you do.

Probably true, but most of my post was about if not disagreeing about issues significant differences in the degree such as racism is a big problem but all whites are not racist or privileged.

I'm just saying that live and let live isn't at odds with what most so-called woke people desire.

Further, there's a good chance you also define privilege and racism differently.

At some point these conversations just become two people talking past each other using the same words in different ways. It makes it almost a waste of time to have those conversations because nothing productive will ever result so long as people refuse to listen to the words their opponents use as they actually use them.

Instead things just circle back to complaining about nomenclature. You'll encounter endless complaints how their opponents define privilege but they never get around to rebutting the concept because they can't (for example).

You'll hear endless complaints about how the word racism is used, but never any that dispute the basic premise.

At some point the complaints seem to boil down to attempts at policing their opponents vocabularies, which isn't exactly live and let live. I wonder why that is.

If one believes a meaning of a word has been changed in a way that is wrong/inaccurate/accurate or somewhat accurate but now is counterproductive is one supposed to "oh well, the new way of defining the word is inevitable" just accept it?

But the type of voter I am talking about is generally not trying to police vocabulary but trying to resist others policing them be it from people on the left trying to tell them all whites are privilaged, or people on the right trying to tell them trans=groomer.

That is a good way of describing it.

Like there are more than a few republican woman who have already had an abortion, or assume they would be the exception to the rule of being allowed one. Then they rally hardcore against other women being able to get an abortion. So, kind of like a whole 'f**k you I got mine and so screw you!' type energy.

Another example is marijuana, republican politicians don't push to legalize marijuana. But I can say plenty of racist right wing voters smoke the stuff...they just think they are special and won't get caught like their black neighbors for instance. Like they will legit vote against legalizing weed, when they're smoking it to. Once again 'I got mine, so screw you'. seems to be the motto.