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26 Sep 2023, 1:05 pm
Seeing as they've built enough housing, by some estimates, for 3 Billion people and only have a population of 1.4 Billion people you'd think their government might just decide to redistribute housing to anyone who decides to be baby factories. Boom; ghost cities become population centres.
Of course this would create a whole new set of problems.. but free/cheap housing would certainly make it a whole lot more feasible for people to be able to afford to have kids.
Aside: This is the new normal here locally where I am. Young people can't afford to house and feed themselves, the idea of starting families is not in the cards for most people. Most of the people I see with young babies are from collectivist cultures where they have multiple generations and several incomes to a household, not the typical individualist Colonial North American. Since it costs $2M for a typical suburban house, Canada's birth rate is about to nose dive and the only way we sustain or expand our population is via immigration.. which shouldn't be a huge problem considering there's still a several year long wait list of people trying to move here. Although, many of the ones that can do math might opt not to come here because life is often harder here these days (financially) than wherever they are from, so the list might get shorter/only wealthy people will move here to setup shop in the habitable climate zone.
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26 Sep 2023, 1:34 pm
The younger generation might have to make some tough choice with the elderly soon.
Maybe they'll legalize/broaden medically assisted suicide laws.
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26 Sep 2023, 1:37 pm
The younger generation might have to make some tough choice with the elderly soon.
It's even worse in China in terms of taxpayers paying for pensioners (versus the west), since the official retirement age is 60 for men & 55 for women in China.
Interesting. They'll change those age laws, just as they're changing in Canada and elsewhere. Used to be a typical retirement age of 65 here, with well off people aiming for 55. Now you can't draw your maximum pittance of a Canada pension until you're 70 and if you take it early you get less/month. Depends on one's own health/genes whether it's better to take it sooner or later.
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26 Sep 2023, 1:45 pm
The younger generation might have to make some tough choice with the elderly soon.
It's even worse in China in terms of taxpayers paying for pensioners (versus the west), since the official retirement age is 60 for men & 55 for women in China.
Interesting. They'll change those age laws, just as they're changing in Canada and elsewhere. Used to be a typical retirement age of 65 here, with well off people aiming for 55. Now you can't draw your maximum pittance of a Canada pension until you're 70 and if you take it early you get less/month. Depends on one's own health/genes whether it's better to take it sooner or later.
That's true. If you don't expect to live long enough to collect your $'s, then you might as well take less, earlier on.
Yep. I know a woman in her 60's collecting hers because both sides of her family die young, so, even if it's less/month, collecting for a lot more months probably nets her more money considering her expected lifespan.
For myself, hard to say.. my dad's family's males die young, my mom's family live a long time. Hoping my genetics lean towards my mom's family more than my dad's. Add in a reasonably healthy diet and exercise and I Hope to have a longer vs. shorter lifespan.. and in an ideal world I'd earn and save enough money that it's entirely moot when, or if, I ever draw a government pension. Can't entirely count on that, though.. I don't exactly have a high income and life is expensive. BUT, with no dependants and just me I can do better than the typical family man trying to live on the same income I earn, that's for sure.
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26 Sep 2023, 3:12 pm
^would be quite the shift if that happens. From what I gather from Chinese immigrants here they think it’s awful that Westerners put elderly people on care homes instead of keeping them in the family home and looking after them.
..but if they have no kids to look after them.. ?
Maybe China will become the world’s greatest producer and exporter of soylent green ?
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