Welp here we go, election madness.

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This is it, it determines whether we become a fascist nation or not. I would not argue the democrats are the best choice, but for now they are the necessary choice. One must vote with their head this upcoming election not with their heart. There is no good side...that is certain but for americans voting a democrat in is safer than getting a republican...I don't particularly like it, as the democrats have done a sh*t job at reining in Isreals human rights abuses...but also I dont want women here getting the taliban treatment.

Which if we get a MAGA a**hole they will try to outright ban abortion, and idk states like colorado may not take to kindly to that, but a civil war would mean a lot of bloodshed on both sides...Idk I just hope we get a democrat and not a republican for president.

Why civil war and not secession? (Sincerely asking for advice)

I hope that the US will become a true multi-party system instead of a two-party system

I have a lot to say, but nothing is as comprehensive as Wikipedia

Mostly agree.

Usually a New Year begins if not with optimism at least with the notion of a fresh start. Because of the way the election is setting up the way it is I begin the year with a sense of dread. While a Democrat win is probably the lesser of two evils no matter who wins I do not foresee the losing side accepting the result. Rather then a civil war which requires organization I do not believe is there I foresee a quickening slide into anarchy, meanness in daily interactions, things we take for granted not working as well or not working at all, supply shortages due to danger, people retreating to there homes to pandemic levels in some locales.

The two factions in the United States are becoming polarized and divided, which is also the source of great differences in the post. I also believe that Trump represents the political aspirations of a large number of people.

We also have to factor in the following things:

1. The upcoming SCOTUS case determining Trump's eligibility, and whether his actions constitute an insurrection. If he's given the boot, the likely GOP nominee would be Nikki Haley.

2. Trump's other criminal trials (classified info, the Georgia case, 1/6).

3. The running mate of each candidate. It appears Biden will stick with Harris, and Trump is considering MTG as a possible VP pick this time around. He's done with Pence.

4. The impact of RFK Jr. and Cornel West in the race. RFK2 has had an unusually strong showing for an indie candidate thus far.

5. Jill Stein is making *another* run with the Greens. No word on who the Libertarians are running.

6. Biden still has to defeat Dean Phillips in the primaries.

As a non American I seem to remember listening to part of DT's inaugural speech where he pledged to be "a president for all Americans" yet it turned out to be among his first lies as a newly elected president. He became among the most divisive presidents in US history.

So many people in both your major parties would do a far better job than the two semi fossilized gentlemen currently in the lead! But US democracy doesn't seem to follow any pattern of logic and when offered truly out of the box thinkers, the primary voters flee into the "laager".

This is the first election I am aware of in which a Republican candidate is ...ashamed...to admit that she belongs to "the Party of Lincoln", and is ashamed of, and tries to hide the fact that it was her Republican party who...freed the slaves!

If I were Nikki Haley I would be boasting about that fact!

That shows that there is no GOP anymore. The modern MAGA GOP is ostensibly a continuation of the Gingrich GOP which is a coalition between northern Republicans and the old southern wing of the Democratic party (ie Dixiecrats).

Half Nixon, half Strom Thurmond.

But in fact the post Trump GOP is pretty much all Dixiecrat (White surpremist, and Christian Nationalist). All Strom Thurmond, and no Reagan or Nixon anymore in the mix. Lacking any message for the American electorate the old GOP is gone and done for.

Though the Libertarian Party is a more extreme version of the old traditional "party of business" style of conservatism of the old GOP. So if you are the rare traditional Republican you might find refuge in the Libertarian Party.

So there is no Republican Party anymore.

What exist is 1) Dixiecrats (under the MAGA GOP label), (2) old style Democrats (like Biden), and (3) Everyone to the left of middle of the road Dems like Biden (Jill Stein, Bernie Sanders, AOC, et al). Call them "Greens" or "Socialists".

Dixiecrats, Northern Style Democrats, and Socialists. Thats the real political landscape.

My previous comment was, admittedly, an attempt to stir the pot, but motivated by the impression that mainline progressives who support Biden think Millennials and Gen-Z can be counted on to vote for Biden and against Trump. Which I think is a foolish assumption. I'll agree that the economy may seem great to a Baby Boomer. The stock market is soaring and there are lots of jobs. The problem is, younger people don't have IRAs loaded with mutual funds, and those jobs don't pay enough to put food on young peoples' tables or gas in their tanks, so it's unlikely they'll ever have those IRAs. And this will motivate a lot of them, maybe not most, but a lot, to vote for Trump. I'll bet OP has acquaintances in her age group who support Trump. I think her husband does Warhammer stuff, so he should know a lot of men like himself, and I'll bet quite a few support Trump. Or they won't bother voting at all.