Medical transition should be free and mandatory

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There are nearly 50 million trans people around the world (about 0.6% of World Population), so it is not too late to help them get the treatment they need in order to improve their well-being and decrease suicide rates (in the US, more than 40% of trans adults have attempted suicide). We still have time!

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https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/press/transpop-suicide-press-release/[/quote]

You're still not making a case for forcing people to receive surgery, vs. the better option of making it available voluntarily for people who might need it.

It's not even that you're failing to make a good case, you're not making a case whatsoever.[/quote]


Trans people have high suicide rates! Either we should intervene and invest as much money as we can as early as possible or face a new coming global crisis. We are already having hundreds of millions of people being hungry and without clean water, and now we have loads of lonely people, and then we have a lot of trans people committing suicide. If the goal of an agenda is to achieve something by a certain time period then it should be done without goofing around. I genuinely cannot believe how the capitalist system can be so greedy and selfish when we have enough money in the world to make an efficient teamwork effort into investing it to solve these persistent global issues that may greatly hinder our progress if not dealt with sooner![/quote]

Forced surgery doesn't directly address suicide rates.
Further, whatever positive contributions forced surgery might make can be achieved by voluntary surgery.

I don't get why you're so hung-up on authoritarian solutions to issues. What benefits come from the state forcing people vs. allowing people to make the choice to pursue surgical solutions?

How will making reassignment mandatory be better than having the patient make the final decision about their medical choices?

How will you deal with people who have anxieties over major surgery, will you force them to undergo surgery anyways?[/quote]

This feels like the underpinning of some socialist ideas, things become mandatory for the greater good. Although they keep saying offer and mandatory. Despite the requests for clarity. It doesnt feel, to me, like these are self induced thoughts but some rhetoric that resonated and they cannot see the deep flaws in it.

The suicide rates are high? Evidence offer is "attempts at suicide" which include "thoughts of" from people engaged in a leading survey. I'm not claiming its not an issue but the sources of such strong positions with the OP are seemingly nonsensical because they don't marry with reality. There appears to be ill formed opinions based on data they wanted to hear and proper scrutiny has not been applied. Likely with the same voracity in which they may apply scrutiny to seemingly contradictory evidence.

The interactions between yourselves seem to be descending into "you just dont get it" as if you knew what they knew (believed) you would only conclude the same way.

Despite your best attempts at clarity, it appears to be a monologue not a dialogue

It is true! I want every trans person to transition as quick as possible. But what you do is claim how there are trans people who think that they would be "forced against their will" when the concept of transgender is to transition. Why? So that their body appearance won't discriminate against them. And even if there is someone who claims that it is being "forced against their will", it will not hinder the process and we will still achieve lower suicide rates by helping these poor people find the light at the end of the tunnel.

It is mandatory for the purpose that we cannot wait anymore! And because I believe that a trans person is supposed to transition to avoid being misgendered, then we should do this for the sake of helping the very small trans population in this entire planet.

Well...whats wrong with that?

I think that everyone in America (except me)male or female.. should be forced at gunpoint into the hospital...to be surgically transformed into a clone of Claudia Schiffer!

And the taxpayer should pay for it!

I mean...is that asking too much?

That is the problem. Over 40% of trans people in America attempted suicide because of the failure of the system to just help them transition. This is a warning sign that things can get worse if we do not take radical action towards bringing down the growing suicide rates!

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So not only do we see transphobia from misgendering but also when you have politically-aligned medical staff who refuse to offer such care which only increases such stigma. I think we need to get rid of such bias that can cause unwanted bigotry. The article mentions that Obamacare in 2016 clarified that such discrimination is illegal.[/quote]

"Politically aligned medical staff"

What does this mean? Are there right and wrong politically aligned medical staff? Forcing transition is the right alignment?

Didn't you read the article? Trans people were discriminated also by the politically conservative beliefs of the staff. The Obama administration in 2016 had to reassure them that such discrimination wasn't tolerable.

ABA, ECT and chelation back not to mention no cheese.

https://study.com/learn/lesson/false-an ... comparison.

Which Claudia Schiffer?

Did you read my question? Or do you think the article can only be interpreted one way?

As for that last one you made. Yes. I believe that "forcing transition" is the right choice because how can a trans person live a happy life without transitioning and legally changing their gender? For too long they're being oppressed and misgendered! The time has come for a serious change and we need it!

It is what I feel that should be done as to probably prevent me from even looking and thinking of my former trans friend as female if they identify as a male and don't like being treated like a female. I have done too much wrong assumptions of my own family and them, and I learned it the hard way when our friendship turned out to be a rollercoaster ride.

Never again will I misgender them because they will one day have free medical transition, and they will legally change gender and I will at that time be with some other girl who isn't trans.

Would all surgeries be free?
What about cancer patients who will otherwise die?

Usually this is a topic regarding the issue of trans people. All I can tell is that all surgeries would be free and that cancer patients like every other disabled patient has priority. We can't have them waiting for too long.

Ideally, I think all non-elective surgeries for all people should be free.
I grew up in Canada where that was the norm.
All surgeries were free except things deemed cosmetic.
One of my family members had a free gender-confirmation surgery.

There is only one.