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religion is BS. (christ) is a greek name. his name is god saves. HE HAS NO LAST NAME. if you read what jesus said, in the bible and out of the bible you would know some truth. i dont agree that the current bible is the truth, or its NT prophets. ive read alot of the books that were left out of the bible and concluded that they were as much truth than the origoinal books if you can call them that, but still that jesus is lord

Jesus (8–2 BC/BCE to 29–36 AD/CE),[1] also known as Jesus of Nazareth, is the central figure of Christianity. He is also called Jesus Christ, where "Jesus" is an Anglicization of the Greek Ίησους (Iēsous), itself a Hellenization of the Hebrew יהושע (Yehoshua) or Hebrew-Aramaic ישוע (Yeshua), meaning "YHWH is salvation";

Even us pagans have no problem with Jesus the man, who was a great pilosopher, teacher, doctor (healer), leader, and possibly even a family man (theories are that he survived the crucifixion and lived with Mariamne until they were forced into hiding). No-one has been able to find the actual tomb of Joseph's family, but because there are no dates on any of the bone boxes found in other tombs, who knows how long Jesus actually lived? As for the rest of it, it's mainly folklore and dogma that has been spun out of all proportion and some of the gospels were written long after the events were supposed to have taken place. It's possible that a few of the writers never even met Christ, and some of the gospels may have been written by only one or two people.

i personally belive jesus was god. will i force my views on you? no

I'm confused. richardbenson said that religion is BS, he attacks the reliability of the Bible. and also says that Jesus was God. Again, I'm confused. What do you believe, richardbenson?

i belive that jesus is god. not the bible. a book of man doesnt condem me, only god. wich he saved me so im not...
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..... Richardbenson, your really confusing me..... You keep repeatedly contradicting yourself.

I think there is a possibility of alternative interpretations of major religions as UFO cover-ups (possibly). If this is true, it's no leap to assume that all of the religions were somehow connected. Seeing as they all trace back to the same "god", the same names and symbols continuously resurface from one religion to the next. And all the "miracles" could just be waaaaaayyyyyy far advanced technology. But this is all theory, I don't treat it as absolute truth.

how am i contridicting myself? last time i checked ive always said i believed jesus was god. ufos are one possibility, but i like a good story

Pfft, the same old intolerant anti religion rhetoric which gets rather annoying, and is disrespectful of people's beliefs. At least try to debate intelligently, and not start up threads with "religion is BS, the bible is lies, I don't need evidence because it's bullcrap!! !"

I strongly dislike many of the teachings of Mr. Christ. He says that we should accept suffering we don't deserve and punish ourselves for our intelligence and competance. Some of his stuff is pretty sensible, but for the most part he was a man who threw the world into a state of anti-mind ignorance fueled by fear of post-mortem punishment.

Which, of course, makes even less sense. The ultimate goal of Christians is "heaven," a state of eternal bliss. I ask you, what can a man possibly think about in a state of total bliss? What art, what thought, what knowledge could possibly come from that kind of place? What virtuous things could someone do in heaven? Absolutely nothing. Going to heaven means being reduced to an animal state. Why would "God" punish us for our virtue by taking away our ability to be virtuous? Is stealing what makes us human a reward for helping humanity? I do not believe in God, but if I did I would refuse to follow the God of the Bible as he is incredibly self-contradictory and geared towards animalistic anti-thought. I believe that the only real sin is not thinking. Christ says the opposite. Christ threatens the intellectual with eternal suffering. I will not consciously sell myself into slavery at the point of a gun. If there is a God and he sends me to hell, then so be it. But I will not give him the satisfaction of thinking that it is my fault I'm there. I will refuse to let him believe he is anything more than a mugger who steals minds and bodies using threats of damnation. I am a human being who thinks, produces, and pursues only his own happiness through legitimate methods. If God damns me to hell for that, then he is the one at fault. Is that an intelligent enough debate for you, Mr. Anubis?

What? You mean everyone has been calling him the wrong name since all this started? Obviously the writers of the bible severely screwed up then. What is his surname then for future reference, then? Surely, they should have referred to him as Jesus such-and-such, the Christ, in that case. Probably too long winded and accurate for the bible thumpers of today.

christ is a title. jesus was his name. most christians are not going to heaven does that make you happy?

Personally, being pagan it doesn't worry me in the slightest. Heaven is a state of euphoria we reach on earth, and hell is deep depression (or war, if you want to go down that road). So whatever fate befalls the Christians is no-nevermind to me....

what exactly am i saying here that is confusing