Should Religion be Forcibly Eradicated?

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Should Religion be Forcibly Eradicated?

Is it time for government, on behalf of the people and humanity in general, to commence the forced eradication of religious beliefs?

I believe that we must. The first -preliminary- step, is erasing all forms of rugged individualism. This must be done by outlawing private ownership of firearms, outlawing parental involvement in the education of children and weakening of traditional marriage and families. Also, personal self-reliance must be scoffed at and heavily discouraged.

In order to create an atheistic utopia, the traditional family unit must be altered beyond all recognition. Methods to promote this further is outlawing homeschooling and private education. Parents must have no involvement in the education of 'their' children! The sole responsibility of children's welfare must begin, and end, with the State!

As religion flounders, the next step may commence. Nationalizing of property belonging to religious institutions, laws prohibiting display of religious behavior and symbols can start.

The new generation of children will be liberated from religious dogma and with a strong antitheistic fervor, the next phase can finally begin.

The new generation will be willing to report religious activity on the part of their parents and will be enthusiastic to report their parents to the respective authorities for religious behavior.

Thus, laws finally prohibiting religious thought and practice can finally be put in place. ALL religious people shall be reeducated to achieve mental liberation. All religious symbols shall be smashed. All bibles, torahs, korans, etc. will be burnt to ashes and the ashes themselves burnt! All churches, synagogues, mosques, etc. shall be either razed or used for utilitarian purposes such as public toilets, schools, abortion clinics, et.al.

This can, and must, be done in order for humanity to advance to a bright and illustrious future! However, not only religion must be eradicated but -ALL- the old ways. The old thoughts, old cultures, old ways and old behaviors.

This entails progressive destruction. All symbols and edifices of the old must be physically eradicated. Burned to the ground and the ashes burnt again and old edifices ground to powder!

The only way to embrace the future and the potential of humanity is to destroy the symbols of the old order. Not only is it a mass expression of catharsis, but it prevents the remnants of the old order (i.e. the parasites of the New Order) from having any tools at their disposal to displace the New Order. It also eliminates incentive to do so as to displace the New Order will replace the New Order with nothing but nothingness! Lastly, future enlightened generations cannot conceive of the old order and desire it if there is no evidence of it ever existing!

Is that from the communist manifesto?

I've written the Soviet government to ask them how well this has worked out for them, but for some reason they don't answer...

It's an interesting question : what should be done ?

You can say 'do nothing because people should chose to live their lives how they like' but well say a child is born into a sect and all he is taught is about the sect and then the entire sect commits suicide - including the child. Well that's not very good is it - I think you could argue for intervention in this case. And in many others.

I don't think you can close down ideas - shutting churches or burning books etc... But you must intervene to ensure that people have free and unpressured access to different ideas, different religions or ways of life, and that no child is pressured into taking any one option. In fact you should promote the idea that each person is an individual with an individual view that is likely to be very different from the person next to him, and that that is a good thing.

I really think that that's a bad idea, who are we to step in and tell people how to think? I sure as hell wouldn't want that. Some people aren't even religious, there's those like me that are just spiritual, would you say that superstition too should be outlawed? I say so long as the people following aren't hurting anyone then they should be allowed to live as they please. Also kids can learn a lot from their parents, not just education, but good common sense things that may pop up in life. x:

great idea!! have you guys thought of a name yet?

How about... ' the church of eradicated religions'

Hehe.
This is either an intelligent and clever joke, or the most stupid, unenlightened, uninformed and insane statement I've ever heard.
For your sake, I'll go with the first, unless you prove me wrong.

Anyway, the whole scary idea managed to be very communistic, fascistic and 1984-ish at the same time.
Communism and fascism; They tried it. It didn't work and was a terrible idea.
"1984" was supposed to be a deterrent, not an instruction manual.

And I don't think you'll have to worry about it anyway.
The bible itself says that religion will be overthrown and crushed anyway, so the problem will sort of solve itself.

Mainstream religion should NOT be eradicated, it does many good things as well as bad.

Where the idea breaks down is it does not trust the individual.
Which I agree with because there is no free will. But if the entire New Order is the collective will of all these individual people it does not trust and I do not trust its safe to say it will be the same old sh** but with a different name.

[quote="David1981"]Should Religion be Forcibly Eradicated?

Is it time for government, on behalf of the people and humanity in general, to commence the forced eradication of religious beliefs?

I believe that we must. The first -preliminary- step, is erasing all forms of rugged individualism. This must be done by outlawing private ownership of firearms, outlawing parental involvement in the education of children and weakening of traditional marriage and families. Also, personal self-reliance must be scoffed at and heavily discouraged.

In order to create an atheistic utopia, the traditional family unit must be altered beyond all recognition. Methods to promote this further is outlawing homeschooling and private education. Parents must have no involvement in the education of 'their' children! The sole responsibility of children's welfare must begin, and end, with the State!

As religion flounders, the next step may commence. Nationalizing of property belonging to religious institutions, laws prohibiting display of religious behavior and symbols can start.

The new generation of children will be liberated from religious dogma and with a strong antitheistic fervor, the next phase can finally begin.

The new generation will be willing to report religious activity on the part of their parents and will be enthusiastic to report their parents to the respective authorities for religious behavior.

Thus, laws finally prohibiting religious thought and practice can finally be put in place. ALL religious people shall be reeducated to achieve mental liberation. All religious symbols shall be smashed. All bibles, torahs, korans, etc. will be burnt to ashes and the ashes themselves burnt! All churches, synagogues, mosques, etc. shall be either razed or used for utilitarian purposes such as public toilets, schools, abortion clinics, et.al.

This can, and must, be done in order for humanity to advance to a bright and illustrious future! However, not only religion must be eradicated but -ALL- the old ways. The old thoughts, old cultures, old ways and old behaviors.

This entails progressive destruction. All symbols and edifices of the old must be physically eradicated. Burned to the ground and the ashes burnt again and old edifices ground to powder!

The only way to embrace the future and the potential of humanity is to destroy the symbols of the old order. Not only is it a mass expression of catharsis, but it prevents the remnants of the old order (i.e. the parasites of the New Order) from having any tools at their disposal to displace the New Order. It also eliminates incentive to do so as to displace the New Order will replace the New Order with nothing but nothingness! Lastly, future enlightened generations cannot conceive of the old order and desire it if there is no evidence of it ever existing![/quote

In addition to having undiagnosed Asperger's syndrome, I think you have Evil a**hole Disorder (EAD).

He looked up at the enormous face. Forty years it had taken him to learn what kind of smile was hidden behind that dark mmustache. O cruel, needless misunderstanding! O stubborn, self-willed exile from the loving breast! Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.

I will assume that this thread was intended as sarcasm. Seriously, if not, you are truly sick.

Honestly, I disagree with the OP on a number of issues, he sounds as if he's playing the stereotypical ammoral atheist (which is a stereotype perpetuated by Christians, therefore your submitting to Christianity yourself rather you realise it or not).
The whole thing came off 1984-ish as hell.... I agree organized literal interpretations of religion needs to be abolished myself, for the good of the species, as it is causing way much more trouble than it is solving, and has been proven wrong by science.
Sorry but helping one man get off drugs doesn't hold any water next to thousands of people hijacking a nation, trampling peoples' rights, and declaring gang wars with other religions, not to mention the virtual library of proven research that are being denied by religious zealotry, research which could help thousands of people around the world who are struggling. These theories have a long history of human rights abuse and tyranny, and today it is still going. For what it's worth though there are just as many pc zealots on the other side of the political spectrum here in the US who'll likely deny the same proven research if they find it "politically incorrect".
But my reasons for it aren't as hateful as those of the OP, I realise there are some literal Christians, literal Muslims, etc, who are still good people, who I might even be friends with. But the religions themselves are dangerous cults, they always have been. One or two good apples among the cult won't stop the cult from being a dangerous phenomenon. It is a hinderance in man's quest for universal peace, tranquility, and brotherhood. There are think tanks that can un-brainwash people (and I really hate to sound like the OP here in this thread, but it's all about protecting the well being of the species and making progress, moving forward, and acknowledging proven facts when they turn up)... Alternative interpretations of religion might still hold some water though, generally in the fields of unified theory, so these should be left as a possibility until we have more research to validate for or against it.

To the OP, We don't need totalitarianism, or a resurgence of communism, we need a socialist democracy based upon logical principal. I can only partially agree with you, but then again it doesn't seem like your answer is much better than the problems brought on by religion either.

The whole point is to get away from dogma and the unthinking acceptance of dictates from on high, not to replace religion of god with religion of the state.