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mwalker1996
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16 Jun 2025, 8:52 am

I was watching a YouTuber talk about Love on the spectrum and one person commented how she didn't like Abby because she calls black people Africans and White people "regular American" when referring to Arial from Little Mermaid. Another reason was the face she think Asperges is a Jewish diagnosis.

I don't fault her for having those misconceptions since she's a lv 2 austic whose not educated on social studies. I do see autstic people say some non PC things, mostly out of ignorance.

I'm guilty myself of coming off non PC but I worked hard at not saying things that most people find offensive. I grew up hearing people say homophonic, fatphobic, and racist things as someone who grew up in the black community, but being that I went to college and came of age in a sensitive society I learned to tone those things down.

Are you guilty of being non PC?



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16 Jun 2025, 11:30 am

I'm not always PC, but I don't feel guilty about it. I think there's too much PC these days and it gets cumbersome. Sometimes I just don't expect anybody will be offended because I'm not au fait with all the latest words and opinions that have been deemed taboo, other times I think there's a risk that somebody will be offended but I decide to say it anyway. Being offended is an odd thing. It's OK in moderation but if it's taken to extremes then it's the offended who are doing the oppressing. And it gets very subjective in the middle so it's a great place for a fight to start.

Am I alone or does anybody else find it kind of refreshing to just ignore PC and come out with it?

Don't get me wrong, I'm fairly courteous, and not notorious for saying naughty things, and if somebody finds what I say hurtful then if they just talk to me about it in a civilised manner without trying to get their revenge or try and treat me like a naughty boy, I'm very likely to use tact next time I speak in their presence.

Talking of "in their presence," I've often said things without realising the person I'm saying it to isn't the only one who can hear me. But that's not politically incorrect things particularly, just accidental indiscretion. I'm more aware of it than I used to be.



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16 Jun 2025, 11:50 am

Sometimes I feel like I'm just politically ignorant. :?



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16 Jun 2025, 11:58 am

I don't know and I don't particularly care.


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16 Jun 2025, 12:15 pm

I am indifferent to the societal expectations and norms as they often seem arbitrary and unequal. I follow my own inner moral compass and guidelines when interacting with others.

I have seen people talk all noble and politically 'correct' in certain circumstances, then talk completely different in others. Example is people who are act PC in public, then are all racist in private around their friends when they think they are safe from social scrutiny and judgement.


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16 Jun 2025, 12:22 pm

One time my (old and better) supervisor told me that he wanted me to work Saturdays because it's a "three man job" and there was only two people on a Saturday. Then he quickly tapped my arm and said "oh I mean a three person job". Lol I just told him that he doesn't need to go all PC on me, as it doesn't exactly change the fact that I'm a woman does it? :lol:

He called me a boy once. I was looking for something and I asked him where it was and he said "over there, you silly boy!" I don't know why he said boy for. It was funny. :lol:


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16 Jun 2025, 12:46 pm

CherokeeDeathRose13 wrote:
Sometimes I feel like I'm just politically ignorant. :?

Well, I wonder if there's anybody in the world who isn't politically ignorant? It's a very subjective matter. Whoever gets to decide what things we're not supposed to say must be winging it to a degree. I asked around about why some comment or other a politician made was seen as antisemitic, and the best answer I could get was that there was a feeling that the comment might make the really extreme antisemitists feel empowered, but that nobody really knew for sure. In other words, there are no definitive answers to what's naughty and what isn't, but if you get stuck in the wrong homogenous group they might do their damnedest to make you feel guilty.



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16 Jun 2025, 1:18 pm

I used to be naive in a lot of political topics but after having a civil discussion with a friend online (without any emotions running high) I feel I have learnt more and can see both sides of the political spectrum and I've learnt that some things are just better left unsaid for the sake of other people's feelings if you don't want to come off as an a**hole (even if you're not an a**hole). Things do get heated with political discussions, and I've learnt now to avoid them or only share what I know factually rather than just from hearsay. And I got a lot of political information from hearsay in the past, which is more opinion and emotion-based. So yeah, I was politically ignorant because I didn't know the facts.


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16 Jun 2025, 2:52 pm

mwalker1996 wrote:
I was watching a YouTuber talk about Love on the spectrum and one person commented how she didn't like Abby because she calls black people Africans and White people "regular American" when referring to Arial from Little Mermaid. Another reason was the fact she think Asperges is a Jewish diagnosis.

I don't fault her for having those misconceptions since she's a lv 2 austic whose not educated on social studies. I do see autstic people say some non PC things, mostly out of ignorance.

I'm guilty myself of coming off non PC but I worked hard at not saying things that most people find offensive. I grew up hearing people say homophonic, fatphobic, and racist things as someone who grew up in the black community, but being that I went to college and came of age in a sensitive society I learned to tone those things down.

Are you guilty of being non PC?



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16 Jun 2025, 6:40 pm

^
Why have you quoted yourself without making any comment?



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18 Jun 2025, 8:05 pm

I'm 51, female and white so I'm a politically incorrect Karen by default. As a kid I heard other kids at school using the N word and later at home I my mom about it, and she said it was very offensive to black people, so I decided never to use that word, ever. On the other hand I feel like we have to walk constantly on eggshells. I'm still trying to not say "lame", which was popular slang back in the 80s and 90s for something you didn't like, but it's original meaning was for someone who can't or has trouble walking. But how many people actually know that these days? They don't even know "gay" used to just mean "happy". Or that "dumb" used to mean "mute".

Actually now, maybe it's saying someone is lame because they can't walk is ableist now, just like "dumb" is now ableist because it's outdated and everyone thinks it means "stupid", anyway.



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18 Jun 2025, 8:52 pm

lostonearth35 wrote:
I'm 51, female and white so I'm a politically incorrect Karen by default. As a kid I heard other kids at school using the N word and later at home I my mom about it, and she said it was very offensive to black people, so I decided never to use that word, ever. On the other hand I feel like we have to walk constantly on eggshells. I'm still trying to not say "lame", which was popular slang back in the 80s and 90s for something you didn't like, but it's original meaning was for someone who can't or has trouble walking. But how many people actually know that these days? They don't even know "gay" used to just mean "happy". Or that "dumb" used to mean "mute".

Actually now, maybe it's saying someone is lame because they can't walk is ableist now, just like "dumb" is now ableist because it's outdated and everyone thinks it means "stupid", anyway.


I believe historically there was a tie between the concept of being stupid and not being able to communicate.

At least, the relationship between intelligent and intelligible seems to hint at it.


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If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. —Malcolm X
If you feel useless, just remember the USA took four presidents, thousands of lives, trillions of dollars and 20 years to replace the Taliban with the Taliban.