Ultraterrestrials: The Ancient Intelligence Behind UFOs | Op

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This is a ball of yarn I scrape at occasionally and I found this Michael Phillip unpack of John Keel (1970's UFO researcher similar to Jacques Vallee in thought) particularly interesting. Where I'd agree - I think nuts and bolts visitors from other star systems, the hypothesis of literal foreign intelligent species visiting us in metal or other material craft from another solar system, is the least compelling explanation from the overall behavior. Some not insignificant chance that it's a kluge of hallucination, sleep paralysis, clout chasers, misidentified drones, and government test craft, going out past that in complexity it would be some instantiation of the 'ultraterrestrial' hypothesis. My primary working models for that, starting with something like a Darwinian metaphysical idealism (like Hoffman and Prakash's 'Conscious Realism'), 1) functionalism with multiple realizability gives us actual egregores, that they're more tangible than an abstract concept, that there would be overarching canopies of egregores of egregores, and from higher levels they could manipulate us to their own ends or, if we're luckier, troubleshooting existential threats we can't see 2) semiotic predators like the crown of thorns ship Rorschach and the scramblers in Peter Watts's Blindsight, in this case they're something non-conscious that evolved on completely different lines, too far outside our fitness landscape to see most of the time, and when they do show up they're dumping entropy on us for their own survival.

Anyway here's the video in question, it's 1:01:58 so only watch if you're interested in the topic or exploring the idea out past what I said above. What I will say Michael shared which I hadn't considered previously, the idea that such a phenomena played both the air force and UFO believers against each other and played 'man in the middle' much in the way George P Hansen in 'The Trickster and the Paranormal' talked about parapsychological phenomena playing both researchers and skeptics in similar ways (that's where I think of 'semiotic predators' offloading entropy - they come to stir she sh-- pot).