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28 Nov 2025, 4:25 pm

In a dramatic shift, Americans no longer see four-year college degrees as worth the cost

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Americans have grown sour on one of the longtime key ingredients of the American dream.

Almost two-thirds of registered voters say that a four-year college degree isn’t worth the cost, according to a new NBC News poll, a dramatic decline over the last decade.

Just 33% agree a four-year college degree is “worth the cost because people have a better chance to get a good job and earn more money over their lifetime,” while 63% agree more with the concept that it’s “not worth the cost because people often graduate without specific job skills and with a large amount of debt to pay off.”

In 2017, U.S. adults surveyed were virtually split on the question — 49% said a degree was worth the cost and 47% said it wasn’t. When CNBC asked the same question in 2013 as part of its All American Economic Survey, 53% said a degree was worth it and 40% said it was not.

The eye-popping shift over the last 12 years comes against the backdrop of several major trends shaping the job market and the education world, from exploding college tuition prices to rapid changes in the modern economy — which seems once again poised for radical transformation alongside advances in AI.

“It’s just remarkable to see attitudes on any issue shift this dramatically, and particularly on a central tenet of the American dream, which is a college degree. Americans used to view a college degree as aspirational — it provided an opportunity for a better life. And now that promise is really in doubt,” said Democratic pollster Jeff Horwitt of Hart Research Associates, who conducted the poll along with the Republican pollster Bill McInturff of Public Opinion Strategies.

“What is really surprising about it is that everybody has moved. It’s not just people who don’t have a college degree,” Horwitt added.

National data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics shows that those with advanced degrees earn more and have lower unemployment rates than those with lower levels of education. That’s been true for years.

But what has shifted is the price of college. While there have been some small declines in tuition prices over the last decade, when adjusted for inflation, College Board data shows that the average, inflation-adjusted cost of public four-year college tuition for in-state students has doubled since 1995. Tuition at private, four-year colleges is up 75% over the same period.

Poll respondents who spoke with NBC News all emphasized those rising costs as a major reason why the value of a four-year degree has been undercut.

Jacob Kennedy, a 28-year-old server and bartender living in Detroit, told NBC News that while he believes “an educated populace is the most important thing for a country to have,” if people can’t use those degrees because of the debt they’re carrying, it undercuts the value.

Kennedy, who has a two-year degree, reflected on “the number of people who I’ve met working in the service industry who have four-year degrees and then within a year of graduating immediately quit their ‘grown-up jobs’ to go back to the jobs they had.”

“The cost overwhelms the value,” he continued. “You go to school with all that student debt — the jobs you get out of college don’t pay that debt, so you have to go find something else that can pay that debt.”

The 20-point decline over the last 12 years among those who say a degree is worth it — from 53% in 2013 to 33% now — is reflected across virtually every demographic group. But the shift in sentiment is especially striking among Republicans.

In 2013, 55% of Republicans called a college degree worth it, while 38% said it wasn’t worth it. In the new poll, just 22% of Republicans say the four-year degree is worth it, while 74% say it’s not.

Democrats have seen a significant shift too, but not to the same extent — a decline from 61% who said a degree was worth it in 2013 to 47% this year.

Over the same period, the composition of both parties has changed, with the Republican Party garnering new and deeper support from voters without college degrees, while the Democratic Party drew in more degree-holders.

Remarkably, less than half of voters with college degrees see those degrees as worth the cost: 46% now, down from 63% in 2013.

Those without a college degree were about split on the question in 2013. Now, 71% say a four-year degree is not worth the cost, while 26% say it is.

Preston Cooper, a senior fellow at the right-leaning American Enterprise Institute, said enough cracks have proliferated under the long-standing narrative that a college degree always pays off to create a serious rupture.

“Some people drop out, or sometimes people end up with a degree that is not worth a whole lot in the labor market, and sometimes people pay way too much for a degree relative to the value of what that credential is,” he said. “These cases have created enough exceptions to the rule that a bachelor’s degree always pays off, so that people are now more skeptical.”

The upshot is that interest in technical, vocational and two-year degree programs has soared.

“I think students are more wary about taking on the risk of a four-year or even a two-year degree,” he said. “They’re now more interested in any pathway that can get them into the labor force more quickly.”

Burns said she believes that a lot more people in her millennial generation are “now saddled with a huge amount of debt, even as successful business professionals,” which will influence how her peers approach paying for college for their children.

There hasn’t just been a decline in the cost-benefit analysis of a degree. Gallup polling also shows a marked decline in public confidence in higher education over the last decade, albeit with a slight increase over the last year.

“This is a political problem. It’s also a real problem for higher education. Colleges and universities have lost that connection they’ve had with a large swath of the American people based on affordability,” Horwitt said. “They’re now seen as out of touch and not accessible to many Americans.”

The NBC News poll surveyed 1,000 registered voters Oct. 24-28 via a mix of telephone interviews and an online survey sent via text message. The margin of error is plus or minus 3.1 percentage points.


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28 Nov 2025, 6:34 pm

What is it that makes college degrees so expensive?


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28 Nov 2025, 7:18 pm

I call BS...higher education will always open doors to a professional career.
AI will make it more important to also have general Stem qualifications in addition to a business degree or management degree.
And even when highschool graduates opt to bypass college, many will earn savings and go back and pay for a college degree while working.

the single factor in America is cost. Your government chooses to spend taxpayer money on defence > education and health. An American is at greater risk of homelessness and poverty if they are sick or cant pay back on student loan. Perhaps this might explain a decline in uptake of college places due to financial uncertainty.



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28 Nov 2025, 10:42 pm

Old saying ,popped into my mind when considering government jobs and their like . Not what you know, But who you know.
This is not to say a degree may be a good starting point when getting a job .
Having said that , have confronted many Doctors and surgeons . Who questioned how I gained the knowledge I did
to offer suggestions on My own surgeries, That they did not have a reference for . And I truley suffered the consequences at the hands of these less than opened minded College Educated Twits . And still do. The Education at College is set to cause you to fit in with the accepted ( politically)and known level of group think . Have seen and personally known at least 2 Doctors whom the Almighty AMA sued repeatedly and attempt to remove the Licenses of those same Doctors. Whose medical practices were actually helping people / children with Chronically afflicted Infectious diseases, based on their practical experiences in their own private practices .

,In another case of a Doctor,doing another surgery on me, years later, I felt the need to correct him in his use of terms. As I did not want the results from the surgery, that his Diction implied. A small thing , but incorrectly used means different things. 'ie. to Vivisect or to Dissect' , one directly implys that tissue was being manipulated or removed from a cadaver, non living organism (to Dissect). The other to remove examine or manipulate tissue from a living organism.
( to Vivisect ).. But my experiences regarding this stuff I refer to, are only the medically College Educated . And personally have a older brother, Whose degrees in Physics and Chemistry got him a job eventually , Working for the USA s. manned space program . But in a conversation with him, he could not navigate his way out of a paperbag . Because of old Dogma learnings taught to him in college. >>>>This way into paperbag>> always go forward :ninja: ..! , But that does not apply if you need to back out or change direction to achieve the objective . ? ( of getting back out of the bag) 8O . NO offence intended to those whom have successfully acquired good and accurate information from any institution of higher learning.


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28 Nov 2025, 10:51 pm

cyberdora wrote:
I call BS...higher education will always open doors to a professional career.
AI will make it more important to also have general Stem qualifications in addition to a business degree or management degree.
And even when highschool graduates opt to bypass college, many will earn savings and go back and pay for a college degree while working.

the single factor in America is cost. Your government chooses to spend taxpayer money on defence > education and health. An American is at greater risk of homelessness and poverty if they are sick or cant pay back on student loan. Perhaps this might explain a decline in uptake of college places due to financial uncertainty.


Plus many public schools in the US focus on memorization and standardized testing, rather than critical thinking. As a result, many people who do go to college are seriously unprepared and quit their first year.


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28 Nov 2025, 11:08 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:
Plus many public schools in the US focus on memorization and standardized testing, rather than critical thinking. As a result, many people who do go to college are seriously unprepared and quit their first year.

Also many graduate from college but then quit the idea of a graduate position when they either can't land an job interview or fail the interview when asked to do a critical thinking test.

Only 46% of American college graduates work in their chosen field. Most of the remaining 54% are too much in debt to get further qualifications so join the queue of school leavers for a job in McDonalds or Walmart.



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29 Nov 2025, 11:38 pm

My multiple degrees have gotten me nowhere. i wish I would of never gone to higher education. i am at the same place in life right now I would be if I would of dropped out of high school. I should of never trusted my teachers and guidance counselors in school.



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30 Nov 2025, 2:02 am

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My multiple degrees have gotten me nowhere. i wish I would of never gone to higher education. i am at the same place in life right now I would be if I would of dropped out of high school. I should of never trusted my teachers and guidance counselors in school.


your one of many dude! I don' use my original university degree either



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05 Dec 2025, 10:51 am

Plus any degree other than computer science is useless.

If you major in anything else, enjoy your shack in Mississippi, because that's all you'll be able to afford.


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05 Dec 2025, 11:03 am

Big reason I didn't go to a 4-year college as I did not want to go into horrendous amounts of debt (which gives me anxiety just thinking about it). A lot of people go about a 4-year degree in a foolish manner, getting a major in something that's not marketable or flexible, going to an out of state college, and going in really with no plan. Also, in some situations it makes more sense to do remedial and basic courses at a community college first.


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05 Dec 2025, 12:22 pm

Attended a 2 year community college , was doing pretty well by their standards , had thought would continue on to go to a 4 year college , transfering credits and the like . So as I was a close to a month short of the AA degree in Comp. Science . Requiring unrelated classes to be taken,to graduate , complete all requirements for the degree . I just could not stand it another day . As soo much of the classes required did NOT relate to computer science but had to take up real estate in my memory to pass unrelated classes . I dropped out( sorry to say) .But it was earlydays of Community Colleges. Most classes were free . If you could afford the very expensive books required for the class. Used school books
were a hot item back then.Went directly to work for the City , back when they had entry level jobs. As a technical Writer
Big name for a entry level Programmer . In COBOL , but had hands on with basic and Fortran languages. You do not have to pay entry level workers . As much . And after a few years . The work became ridiculously easy.And would finish assigned programming tasks much quicker than the old time programmers there. The office was not well ventilated .
Flourescent lights beamed at me . And I was to young to understand the monosodium glutamate in my lunch time noodles were , Making me have low level allegic reactions ,Was hard to stay awake. . Job opened at Applied Data Science.a change to a night shift and , I was becoming a glorified paper shuffler there.So that was the end to a 5 year experience in Comp Programming . Business world. All Thanks to college... But I did learn patience .And to do research before starting new stuff. a kinda of a no brainer education . :roll: . final take away ; was work for yourself , You become very hard to be made redundant. :nerdy: ..imho


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05 Dec 2025, 1:41 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:
Plus any degree other than computer science is useless.

If you major in anything else, enjoy your shack in Mississippi, because that's all you'll be able to afford.

There is a very high demand for anything related to health care. A lot of these jobs require at least a 4 year degree.


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05 Dec 2025, 5:52 pm

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Tim_Tex wrote:
Plus any degree other than computer science is useless.

If you major in anything else, enjoy your shack in Mississippi, because that's all you'll be able to afford.

There is a very high demand for anything related to health care. A lot of these jobs require at least a 4 year degree.


Mine is in geography/urban planning, though I have taught myself most of the in-demand tech/AI skills.

I read an article that said San Francisco is the best city to be an urban planner (and they seriously need them up there). But what good is that if urban planners can't even afford to live in the city they work for and try to improve?

As for the acquired tech skills, how can I compete with those who actually majored in CS?


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05 Dec 2025, 6:36 pm

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Tim_Tex wrote:
Plus any degree other than computer science is useless.

If you major in anything else, enjoy your shack in Mississippi, because that's all you'll be able to afford.

There is a very high demand for anything related to health care. A lot of these jobs require at least a 4 year degree.
You can become a CNA in 4-12 weeks months at a CNA school and get a certified certificate.


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05 Dec 2025, 9:24 pm

I agree that a four-year degree isn't worth it for most people. It's just a trap to get you in a bunch of debt in hopes of getting a job opportunity that will probably never materialize. At the same time, I also don't buy into the "Go to trade school and be a plumber" meme. So many people have bought into that meme that now the blue-collar labor market is completely oversaturated. The only surefire way to build a career is to look at supply and demand. What are the jobs, careers, or side hustles where demand exceeds supply. That means don't buy into memes like university or trade school, because if everyone else has the same idea, then it's pretty much a guarantee that supply will exceed demand. I apply this principle in investing too: I buy whatever everyone else is selling and sell whatever everyone else is buying. If something is popular that tends to mean that it's overvalued. Often the greatest business opportunities are in boring areas that no one cares about.


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08 Dec 2025, 6:12 pm

For every "type" of college degree you need to do a cost/benefit analysis. Blanket statements are meaningless.
Also depends on "where" also.
College demand is also subject to market forces. trying to say don't do college is like saying don't invest money in the stock market. Ultimately the market decides.