Racism.

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Has anyone ever discrimenated you because of your color? If so, why do you think it happened? I'm half Japanese and half German, and i've been called lots and lots of names because of my Asian backround. It hurts.

i've been made fun of and picked on by black kids for being white.


if it weren't for white people, black people would be some of the most racist people in the country.


if you need an example...just look at al sharpton or the NAACP. some of their messages end up bordering on being in line with david duke or some white power morons.

Myself personally no, my sister is also white but she wanted to go out with a black guy who was awesome but they both had death threats made so it never happened.

I am an antipodean mongrel with predominantly Celtic Irish genes but I also have Basque and Spanish and Koori [Australian Aborigional] - When I was wee I had the thickest blackest hair and broad feet, my complexion was on the brown side of olive and I had dark brown eyes. As I aged I have gotten paler and my eyes are now hazel and my hair faded to a deep auburn before going silver.
When I was wee I got s**t from everyone if anyone, Maori kids knew I wasn't one of them, Island kids knew I wasn't one of them, the Dallies knew I wasn't one of them, I was white trash but when I was young they all teased me as a coon.
I never knew who I was really and fortunately the racism here is not too full on, the pressure isn't on quite so much to bring out the resentments and if you are open most folks are pretty cool, a pluralistic society hanging off the skeleton of British Imperialism.
Racism of any sort sucks! Be it resentful disenfranchised indigenous peoples or belligerent red neck decedents of the colonists, anyone who somehow thinks they are from a chosen people or a superior people is missing the whole point of difference, lol, peace j

Sadly this is far too true. Many of the most racist people I have encountered have hailed from racial minorities, or those with an ethnic origin differing from their country of residence.

I chanced once to overhear a child on our street speaking to his friends:

"I hate this street. Its full of hippies (me, i have long hair) and n****rs (our neighbour, who is jamaican, and a thoroughly nice chap.). Its not right."

I can only assume that irony is not a strong point with Sikh children.. given that this child happens to a) be a sikh and b) be morbidly obese.

A few years later, I observed the same child, somewhat older, engaged in a dispute with some other white kids. The reaction when someone called him a "fat P-word bastard" was most amusing, as he went utterly ballistic.

On another occasion, a (now ex) partner of mine came under fire from a group of asian kids at her school. Turns out that they made a point of picking on white kids, then if anyone retaliated, running to the school authorities with cries of "racism". It took intimidatory action from outside the school to put a stop to it. (They realised that a) I was not a student there, and thus not concerned by what they said to their own staff and b) that claim would NOT save them from getting their asses kicked.)

Real life anecdotes aside, after several years spent wandering the internet, I have long been aware that by far the greatest number of bans on a server for use of racial slurs will be of black and asian users. Of course, some of this comes from their use of racial-based derogatory comments in a more affectionate manner, but still..

Also, its noticeable that many sites will filter terms like n****r (I dont doubt it is filtered here) and many will kick or ban automaticaly on its use. The same is not done for say.. Honky or cracker. Some will argue that at the very least, cracker has multiple connotations, which is true. Honky however does not. Some wil argue that the word n****r is ONLY able to be used in a derogatory fashion.. but have I not used it several times here, without using it as an insult against someone? It is used in many older works of both fact and fiction, and was at one point a perfectly viable term. It can also be used in a fashion that is not actually derogatory. I own at least one childrens book dating from 1955 in which the line " Annette and her father worked like n****rs all day long." In the context of the piece, it is used to suggest that they worked very hard, and got a lot done, and not under duress (like slaves) but voluntarily, because they enjoy their work. This suggests to me that the author and her readers are both aware of how hardworking someone "of colour" can be.. a far cry from suggesting that they are lazy or feckless. Had it stated "Annette and her father sat on the veranda and sunned themselves like n****rs " then it could be read as derogatory.

Overall, i feel that the current trends of crying racism at the slightest possibility of offence are actually having a negative effect on inter-racial relations. It merely helps build resentment, which is a root cause of trouble. The very fact that this whole post has had to be carefully phrased in order to avoid offence causes me resentment, because I imagine that somehow, someone will find something to be offended about.

bear in mind though that if it weren't for white people, black people likely wouldn't be in the country. things really have to be put in context.

To my knowledge, white people have never enslaved anyone from the middle east, far east, asia, or in fact anywhere in europe, and yet all of these people appear in numbers in the "slaving" nations. Its a fallacy to assume that without slavery and enforced transportation, black people would never have got as far as America.

Not to mention the fact that black people had as much hand in that slavery as any white. African tribes were quite happy to sell their enemies to the white (and arabic) slave traders, so its hardly the guilt-free process that many would have us believe. African tribes were also happily engaged in genocide and slavery long before europeans ever got there, and are qute capable of all manner of atrocity without direct european assistance. (Not counting international arms trading etc.)

The Roman empire? Although arguably southern Europeans might not be considered white, but the native north europeans were surely just as complicit as some of the africans.

Last edited by psych on 02 Oct 2007, 9:34 am, edited 1 time in total.

I'm white (European/Jewish), but my 2 nephews and niece are half Japanese. They've never mentioned any instances of blatant racism toward them -- I think Dallas is a more Asian-friendly city than most here in the U.S. We all started swooning with delight at the arrival of sushi, and have never stopped!

My parrot has never been a victim of overt racism either. Those darn human supremists!

But her favorite food brand is "Zupreme", so I guess she's a Zupremist.

Okay, no more laughing gas for me...

Im thinking in the transatlantic context. The more "recent" slavery, if you will, which is the one cited as responsible for black people being in "this country" (Ie the states.)

Even including the Romans, my statement still stands, as many racial groups migrated back and forth across europe, central asia, and the middle east, without being slaves.

To clarify.. America has a decent sized chinese population, started by immigrants (those who choose to migrate) rather than slaves. You dont have to be a slave to end up in another country, so I see no reason to suppose that without slavery, America would be empty of black citizens. Slavery has not been an issue for a long time now, and yet America still has a large black population, so I can only assume that the greater part are quite content to stay IN America, where they can prosper.

Slavery is irrelevant to their presence now, regardless of what effect it had in the past.

yes, but regardless, the majority of america's black population are the descendents of slaves. i don't really think that point can be argued, although please coorect me if i am mistaken.

i am not sure of the relevence of the rest of your post in the context of my statement.

I'm not disputing the fact that a large majority are descendants of slaves. I was merely clarifying the fallacy suggested by your post that if not for slavery, there would be no black americans.

The rest: Your post seemed to suggest that in some way, whites are to be held responsible for racism they may suffer at the hands of these ex-slave. Something along the lines of "If you hadnt brought them, you wouldnt have to take their s**t." I felt that a little clarification about relative guilt might be in order.

You could also point out the more blatant fallacy/irony of blaming children for what their parents did.

White people are not the worst racists around. Every group has its share of stupid mouth-offs.

During the 1984 presidential race, I saw Andrew Young on TV refer to Walter Mondale's aides as "a bunch of smart-mouth white boys" and no one called him on it. Another time Jesse Jackson called Jewish people "hymies" and New York "Hymietown". Jackson got nailed for that.

I've been called honky and "white m---erf---er" more times than I can count.

I saw a drunken Lakota Sioux man tell a bus full of passengers in Minneapolis to "go back to europe where you came from". Most of the passengers were African-American.

Turks and Armenians have been arrested in the US for fighting because of thousand-year-old conflicts.

There have been complaints among Hollywood's asian actors that whites can't tell Chinese people from Japanese from Vietnamese from Korean, etc. Hell, I can't do that with French, Russian, Turkish and Iranian people, either. Just change my name to Iggy Ignurnt, already.

Oh man there are a lot of nationalities that hate each other besides that: The Greeks and Turks, the English and French (especially in Canada), the Belgians and Dutch, Central Europe and the Gypsies, Indians and Pakistanis, the Chinese and the Japanese, the Koreans and the Japanese, various African tribes, the Tibetans and the Chinese....and the list goes on.

True indeed. I have no intention of copping the blame for any activity performed by people before I was born. Nobody alive today is guilty of this slavery of black people in america. I also would like to see some due thanks as well, given that I am British, and we went out of our way to end the slave trade.