Should America go to stop the genocide in Africa?

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Should America go to stop the genocide in Africa?
Yes 17%  17%  [ 3 ]
No 83%  83%  [ 15 ]
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27 Sep 2007, 5:15 pm

I think we should.



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27 Sep 2007, 6:07 pm

America will never help Africa unless something happens there that makes them pay attention. As far as Washington is concerned, the people there can keep killing each other for as long as they want.

The ironic part is that Democratic Congo actually has less than a fraction of the guns per capita that the US has.



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27 Sep 2007, 6:14 pm

Bush has done all he could with his economic sanctions and actually calling it a genocide. The UN avoids that so they don't have to intervene since UN law requires intervention in all genocides.

Bush couldn't get together enough troops to buy ice cream since the whole Iraq thing and I doubt they would even make a difference.



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27 Sep 2007, 6:17 pm

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Bush couldn't get together enough troops to buy ice cream since the whole Iraq thing and I doubt they would even make a difference.


On the contrary - they would probably make things worse.



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27 Sep 2007, 6:27 pm

In the first place we don't have enough troops. In the second place, Iraq should teach us that one nation cannot perform a police action by itself. Afghanistan has NATO effort and it's still unresolved. The local African neighbors need to step up and restore order. They understand local problems and possible solutions better than any outsiders. The US can offer assistance to the African Union if needed, but should not send combat troops until local leaders have a plan to solve the problem.


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27 Sep 2007, 6:38 pm

No, Britain should go, Africa was so happy when Britain had its empire and all its populous still want Britain to rule them which is why they all come over here.

America wants them all dead which is why they put the aids virus in smallpox vaccines.

First though, we British should go and help Burma, after all it used to be part of the British Empire and we all know Tony Bliar attackted Iraq purely because he was so concerned about the wellbeing of those poor Iraqis, nothing to do with oil or destroying Israels enemies for them.
So the Burmese havebben much worst off for a long time, Iam surprised St Tony hasnt gone to help them yet.

(The latter part of this post contained elements of sarcasm).



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28 Sep 2007, 2:06 pm

Nambo wrote:
No, Britain should go, Africa was so happy when Britain had its empire and all its populous still want Britain to rule them which is why they all come over here.

America wants them all dead which is why they put the aids virus in smallpox vaccines.

First though, we British should go and help Burma, after all it used to be part of the British Empire and we all know Tony Bliar attacked Iraq purely because he was so concerned about the wellbeing of those poor Iraqis, nothing to do with oil or destroying Israels enemies for them.
So the Burmese havebben much worst off for a long time, Iam surprised St Tony hasnt gone to help them yet.

(The latter part of this post contained elements of sarcasm).


Sarcastic it may be, but its actually a better idea. Should something be done about african genocide? yes. should it be the americans who do it? Hell no. British troops have a much better record in dealing with african issues, and in fact a better record full stop for this sort of thing.

However, our army is ludicrously over-stretched as it is. So we shouldnt go either. On the whole, methinks aussies, or canadians, French or Dutch might be a better call.

If america goes.. one.. theyd f**k it up. Two, people would just decide its more neo-colonial bollocks by the great satan.

Send someone less... fractious, triggerhappy, and politically less inciteful.


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28 Sep 2007, 7:20 pm

I don't think we should. How would we even solve it? Go in, shoot people, make a coup d'état and install a puppet government like we always do? No...

I think the most we can really do that'll be effective is letting refugees come here.
We could also try diplomacy, but that isn't the American way these days, is it? That, and it doesn't always work.



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28 Sep 2007, 10:01 pm

Would you want your son or daughter to die trying to destroy the thugs now in charge of the insane butchery in Africa? There are plenty of Africans who are intelligent enough and capable of stopping the killing if they are supplied with the proper weapons. But the people in charge of Sudan and Congo have allies in the west who value Sudanese oil and other African exports more than the well being of Africans.



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28 Sep 2007, 10:17 pm

My sense of humor is horrible :roll:
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28 Sep 2007, 11:37 pm

The best solution is not only military intervention, but also a complete rethink of Africa's borders. They were drawn and essentially invented by Europeans to make their colonies easier to administer, with no thought about how the local people would react. They reflect European influence, exploration and settlement, not the needs of Africans. Most of the countries in Africa are purely artificial entities, not real nations. This is the crux of the problem and dealing with it would be a step in the right direction, even if it is practially impossible to physically reshape Africa at will.

Now if only we could find a way to get rid of those pesky dictators...



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29 Sep 2007, 12:19 am

we SHOULD but doesn't mean we will.

there's a lot of things America SHOULD do but the christians and aristocracy won't allow such things as the shoulds to happen unless it benefits them.



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29 Sep 2007, 12:36 pm

I agree with Mysteryfan: American troops would only throw gasoline on the fire, but we should provide support to the African Union if and when they decide to intervene.



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29 Sep 2007, 12:37 pm

And we should offer asylum to anyone fleeing Darfur.



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29 Sep 2007, 1:11 pm

i say europe should take care of africa. there closer


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29 Sep 2007, 1:49 pm

Let's not.
Like what is happening now in Iraq, we will make things worse than they already are.
I agree with LKL, the US, England, and other countries who are willing should offer asylum to anyone who wants to flee the Darfur region.


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