To all who say there is a god...

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Have you ever heard of the burden of proof? I'm a believer my self, but just because something can't be disproved, doesn't mean that it exists.

The universe itself couldn't have been created out of nothing, and that's why I believe in God. An omnipotent being is superior to the natural laws and therefore the question of what created God is invalid.

I am just just that these discussions are worthless.

Just because something can't be disproved it doesn't mean it exists, and just because something can't be proved it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. So, let's just keep walking and let everyone believe in whatever they want.

Actually, evolution has yet to be proven, by a long shot. There is still a huge gap of missing links, not to mention many inconsistencies in bone structure in apes and humans. Like all of science, this is a theory. So the Bible is not "destroyed" by any means.

The Theory of Evolution proves nothing about anything. It's simply apes and humans, and bits and pieces of bone in between rocks and dust, with missing links everywhere and answers no where. You can argue humans used to be related to fish or birds if you wanted to. Bad example.

"The common cold" is just one of infinite examples of what we don't understand. The list is too long, and the common cold "evolving" is just a sorry excuse. It's the most common sickness in the world, and we can't fix it.

My point is, we cannot even comprehend the simplest of science, yet we try to reason with the universe and make theories on evolution and the creation of mankind. Who are we to theorize about the moon, when we haven't even seen the earth?

My point is that religion and science on are equal ground; neither can be proven. However, I choose to believe in something I can't see or prove, because it gives me faith and a strength that I can't obtain from this world.

Also, how is my understanding of science "flawed?" Is not Science based on theory, just like religion is based on faith? What's the difference in terms of logic?

Tell me where my understanding of science is flawed, I would like to know...and on what basis.

Well said. The physical laws we live by are limited, and we would never comprehend or be able to prove something that is superior to our natural laws. Proving God would only be possible if we were on the same level as him...and that's just not the case.

Did you read what I said or simply respond to it? I honestly tried finding the point where I implied that Evolution and Science are faultless, and couldn't find it. No worries, I'm just talking about your specific God.

And that adds nothing to anything, just mindless rhetoric.

No just one of many things you don't understand. Yeah that's right, mention the common cold when you ignore all the other diseases that have been fixed, or ignore the fact that there's immunisations for colds, or ignore the fact that viruses (As I said) evolve.

I know that it is your point, you made it clear several million times, and have so far refused to back it up with anything other than more arguements. How can I argue against an empty arguement?

Since when? Good for you, I really couldn't care less if you mentioned that you also believe that there's a monster under your bed that eats multiverses.

Is not Theory tested time after time through gruelling trials? Oh that's right you convientently left that part out, you tried to make it look like Science is all about looking at problems and just throwing around ideas, sorry I thought I was in a different conversation, Jesus ****ing Christ I'm so stupid.

Perhaps you should spend a few hours looking at a little website I've found to be very helpful for any Christians who can't seem to grasp the concept of a sensible arguement.

http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/list.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep

This is actually very false.

Just let me remind you all that evolution itself, does not disprove the existence of God, it sure would disprove the bible, but hey, it is not like we needed evolution for that, the bible is full of things that just didn't happen, at least not in the exact way the bible says so. But either way, there's a lot more evidence pointing to it than there's towards alternative theories or non-theories (creationism - ID) . Anyways, more info: http://www.talkorigins.org/

I learned in Philosophy in Religion class, for every argument about the whether God exists

there in a counter argument. It is up to you whether you wish to believe in God.

Hey stop stealing the point that I was making and the link I was posting!

Mankind decided at the beginning to reject God and therefore came under the juristdiction of the god of this world who is Satan.

Apart from the Jews, and untill recently, all men worshipped gods of one sort or another, only the Jews and then Jesus opened it up to the gentiles to worship the God of the Bible.

So he wants us to worship him to differanciate us from the worshippers of the other gods and those who worship themselves.

We then become his property whom he will allow to live in the world when his Kingdom comes and he takes back control of the world from the Devil

On the contrary, if something can't be disproved, it is a tautology, and completely a construct of our minds, and therefore doesn't exist. Bark with me positivists!

I just skip posts that are bellow gigantic quotes when I fast read.

The solution: stop fast reading.

Speed reading (Which is what it's usually called) is fine if you're reading a novel. A lot of Aspies in here seems to fall into a habit of speed reading.