name controversy for xtians- yahweh yeheshua etc

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04 Dec 2007, 2:37 am

Anybody got an opinion on this controversy about the name Jesus being a version of Zeus and the 'real' name (for worship purposes) being yaheshua and such? God or Lord is supposed to be yahweh?



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04 Dec 2007, 2:49 am

Who knows? I know it's Yeshua in Hebrew, and I don't know why the "Christians" just don't go back to it. Because it's, like, supposedly was his name?

It's something like Yeshu ha'Notzri.

I don't think Jesus is based on "Zeus." I think it was just a transliteration.



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06 Dec 2007, 2:43 pm

jesus is in the long list of copycat messiahs that follwed the egyptian god horus



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06 Dec 2007, 2:52 pm

Why do people want god's real name? To see if they can find the name in the phone book and ask for magical wishes?


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06 Dec 2007, 3:28 pm

Postperson wrote:
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bless you :lol:



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06 Dec 2007, 3:34 pm

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bless you :lol:


lol


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06 Dec 2007, 7:06 pm

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jesus is in the long list of copycat messiahs that follwed the egyptian god horus


Nah, I think Jesus is the Jewish Mithras.



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06 Dec 2007, 7:42 pm

yeah he sounds alot like mithras, but wasnt that a Zoroastrian god?



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07 Dec 2007, 10:04 pm

richardbenson wrote:
yeah he sounds alot like mithras, but wasnt that a Zoroastrian god?


He was an Iranian god who later became a Zoroastrian figure.



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07 Dec 2007, 10:44 pm

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Why do people want god's real name? To see if they can find the name in the phone book and ask for magical wishes?


I think part of it is just vanity or wanting to know something that the next person doesn't. The accounts as I understand it have some degree of difference, some would claim he only has a name for the fact that we can make it practical to talk about him (I say him just for simplicity of speech of course). Other accounts say that god's name is unspeakable and unknowable aside from to Jesus, yet others that say that the entity - Jesus himself - is God's name, so unless you can spit another messiah out of your mouth everytime you want to talk religion that would be a bit impractical.

Other than that it doesn't matter - just a lot of semantics and technicalities to have some great and ongoing opinion brawls over.



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07 Dec 2007, 10:54 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
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Why do people want god's real name? To see if they can find the name in the phone book and ask for magical wishes?


I think part of it is just vanity or wanting to know something that the next person doesn't. The accounts as I understand it have some degree of difference, some would claim he only has a name for the fact that we can make it practical to talk about him (I say him just for simplicity of speech of course). Other accounts say that god's name is unspeakable and unknowable aside from to Jesus, yet others that say that the entity - Jesus himself - is God's name, so unless you can spit another messiah out of your mouth everytime you want to talk religion that would be a bit impractical.

Other than that it doesn't matter - just a lot of semantics and technicalities to have some great and ongoing opinion brawls over.


Ahh. So it's like this. In a conversation one person is talking gossip and then someone else decides they are going to say well I know God's name and they say this really long name and then give the smart-ass stare and the other person goes....yeaaaah so anyway blah blah blah Ashley totally sucks.


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07 Dec 2007, 10:58 pm

Kitsy wrote:
Ahh. So it's like this. In a conversation one person is talking gossip and then someone else decides they are going to say well I know God's name and they say this really long name and then give the smart-ass stare and the other person goes....yeaaaah so anyway blah blah blah Ashley totally sucks.


That is sooo true! Just the other day, Ashley was at the mall, and ...



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07 Dec 2007, 11:04 pm

monty wrote:
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Ahh. So it's like this. In a conversation one person is talking gossip and then someone else decides they are going to say well I know God's name and they say this really long name and then give the smart-ass stare and the other person goes....yeaaaah so anyway blah blah blah Ashley totally sucks.


That is sooo true! Just the other day, Ashley was at the mall, and ...


haha.


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07 Dec 2007, 11:21 pm

Kitsy wrote:
Ahh. So it's like this. In a conversation one person is talking gossip and then someone else decides they are going to say well I know God's name and they say this really long name and then give the smart-ass stare and the other person goes....yeaaaah so anyway blah blah blah Ashley totally sucks.


Yeah... that more or less sounds about right ;).

Or, to quote Howard Stern - "Double-u AYYYYINNNN BAYYYYY SAYYYYY!!"



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07 Dec 2007, 11:27 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
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Ahh. So it's like this. In a conversation one person is talking gossip and then someone else decides they are going to say well I know God's name and they say this really long name and then give the smart-ass stare and the other person goes....yeaaaah so anyway blah blah blah Ashley totally sucks.


Yeah... that more or less sounds about right ;).


It would be a dawn of a new era. Attack of the God's name elitests. It would turn into gossip in no time.


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07 Dec 2007, 11:30 pm

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It would be a dawn of a new era. Attack of the God's name elitests. It would turn into gossip in no time.


Nah, that's effort better spent... I don't know, doing arm curls with bottle of whiskey. I'd say people can do what they want and its perfectly ok, just as long as you won't put my physical health in jeopardy for not caring or not believing the same thind - THEN I start to get a little raw about it.