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made me think

Some of the concepts were interesting, but I do not believe in it.

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jjstar, I like your new avatar.

On the subject of the Kabbalah, I tried to download a portion of it to save for later reading. I am better with print than listening to the narrator, who is distracting. However, I lost the download so it is floating around out there in cyberspace. How mysterious is that?

I have saved the link, though. Thanks.

This group is the Bnei Baruch:

http://www.kabbalah.info/

The one Madonna is involved with is the Kabbalah Centre:

http://www.kabbalah.com/

Their interpretations of the kabbalistic literature actually differ on many points.

However, perhaps the most unusual kabbalistic group around is Donmeh West:

http://www.donmeh-west.com/

I have actually corresponded with its founder.

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It's just more new age disinformation. Nothing more, that's all kabalism ever was, and contrary to popular perceptions, kabala was never a strictly jewish thing either. There have been greek kabalas, african kabalas, hindu kabalas.... kabalism is a major stone in the mystery religion of the elites, which all of today's religions were based off of. This also rolls other practices into it, namely advanced geometry as you can see in many of the symbols, philosophy, etc.
the link is FULL of propaganda, such as the "we have no free will" (ie conditioning people to accept tyranny). I don't buy this link at all.

The Kabbalah refers to a body of literature which developed within Sephardic (Spanish) Jewry beginning in the Middle Ages. The kabbalistic writers were influenced by Neoplatonism, Gnosticism, and Islamic mysticism. However, the Kabbalah, while more recently adapted by some occultic groups (like Golden Dawn and the Ordo Templi Orientis) and some Christian writers, itself refers to Jewish esotericism.



What evidence do you have for the Illuminati conspiracy idea that the Kabbalah is "the mystery religion of the elites"? Which elites?

Dude, I've got so many resources it would be like trying to give a class lecture, I'd be here tomorrow. The fact that I'm telling you something that hasn't been repeated from someone else before should tell you I've done DEEP research. But then there are some people *cough cough* who refuse to even believe that history could repeat itself on them.
This is another reason why I'm not going to great pains to offer up sources, because no amount of evidence is good enough for people who are not emotionally ready to accept it.

There are resources on the Internet and in bookstores which can support most any idea. However, I would, personally speaking, only consider evidence published in peer-reviewed academic journals.

Well that's the thing, no one source is fully credible. Any one source, on anything. People have become so lazy that they want someone to think for them and hand them all their answers on a silver pladder. Seeking out truth takes work.

I also never stated the kabala WAS the mystery religion, I just said it had a major role in it. So does geometry, astrology, astronomy, alchemy, esoteric, new age, and various other fields.

jstar's moniker states "tough love is no love", actually I personally think sometimes tough love is completely necessary. Sometimes tough love is the only way to get through to people you love. Sometimes, tough love saves, even if it hurts someone's feelings at first, in the end it often saves them (if theyr willing to take heed). We do not really live in the liberal pipe dream "candy land" that many extreme leftist and new agers wanna pretend we do.
People sometimes try so hard to be positive that they neglect the negatives. To illustrate how detrimental this way of thinking can be, imagine your out jogging along a rail road track, you hear a train coming, but you choose to ignore it because you think it's "negative" to believe that if you don't get off the track you will be killed. The inevitable outcome will be that the train hits you and you die a horrible, bloody, death.
This is why I am not a pessimist, I am not an optimist, I am a realist, I look at the good AND the bad, and weigh them out.
I'm not telling you how to live your life jstar, I'm just offering some advice. You can choose to heed my advice or ignore it, that's all your decision there.

Sure, but peer-reviewed journals are evaluated by other experts, in the same field as the researcher, for methodological errors. Most of the stuff you find on the Internet and in popular books is just personal opinion, often disguised in scientific-sounding language, or speculative.



There were a host of mystery religions in the ancient world, and there are a lot of religions which claim to possess mysteries in modern times. They are diverse. For instance, there are numerous groups which call themselves Rosicrucian, but many of them have entirely different histories, belief systems, etc. Their only similarity is the name.

The Rosicrucians, they were a society ran on the mystery religion, which was initially passed down from Pythagorus.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/sro/rhr/rhr01.htm

But that is what I mean. Some Rosicrucians have claimed that their belief system goes back to Pythagorus. However, there is absolutely no evidence to support it. Anyone who tried to get an article published with that assertion in a peer-reviewed journal would almost inevitably have it rejected.

This is because rather than looking for surrounding evidence (ie evidence to support claims ASSOCIATED with it), they try to go seeking only direct evidence. Kinda like, lets say, if a girl stole a cookie from a cookie jar but nobody seen her, so the parents claim "we can't prove she did it", even though the cookie is all over her face.