A story of a girl and the concept of God.

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MissPickwickian seems to have been grasped by an ultimate concern.

A few days before her sixteenth birthday, a girl awoke with a desire for insight into the mysteries of God. This was a rather abrupt development, as she had gone to bed an atheist the night before. However, the girl often wakes up in odd moods, her whirring mind demanding she study architecture, tap on the wall twenty times, read Thomas Mann, or frantically make sure her mother is still alive. Yet something as strange and large as God was an especially unusual concern to have first thing in the morning.

That day she listened to Gregorian Chant on full volume, clasping her mother's crucifix and stimming, read the book of Genesis without irony, pondered the merits of Buddhism, and bowed down in the general direction of Mecca so as to see how it felt.

The girl was, of course, inclined to philosophy. Philosophers are made thus: They are of a large group of naturally logical thinkers birthed by the Earthling women. Most of the logical types will be satisfied with logic and go into mathematics, science, and technical fields. A small minority are not satisfied. They know enough
to know the limits of logic. They try to explain what no one can, and then they are called philosophers. They attempt to apply the reasoned principles they are wired with to untangle the great mysteries of man, one of which is called God.

The girl was made a philosopher, and possibly even a Theologian.

The girl was overtaken with the desire to learn more about the many incarnations of this God, whom she suddenly understood as being real. She didn't want to be confined to one religion, but she suddenly felt deeply religious (no mincing "spirituality" or agnosticism here). She did not want to loathe the non-believers or get political or some such; she wanted to go on her very own difficult and solitary journey to separate herself from the Mundane and pursue the Divine

MissPickwickian, friends, may be embarking on a strange, ecstatic, terrible journey into the depths of myth and wisdom and the caverns of her very own mind and soul. This she must do. For all you know, she may end up in Rome or Tibet, on a long and cheerful fast, or she might rid herself of her material possessions (including la laptop) and go wandering through Arizona. Autistics are capable of anything in the name of obsession. Be prepared for eccentric posts.

This is just as unnerving to me as it is to you.

Yeah, I've gone through odd things before. I am not freaked out. My ideas and posts are pretty eccentric as is and frankly, many people would be surprised as hell to find out that I have a religion. Myself a year back would be pretty surprised to see my religious streak.

I say explore this urge though. Then again, I think that there are no true atheists anyway, just different deities chosen, so it makes sense to me that if you are doomed by the nature of being human to choose a deity, then you might as well go shopping.

wonderful post.

Have fun.

Seriously.

If this little girl was a little boy, it would describe my journey perfectly. In the beginning I could have never imagined myself believing in a god, I was, at the beginning, a die-hard atheist. In fact extreme critical questioning of such a thing as a god was **one** of the things that initially lead me on this quest for knowledge.

I hope your journey is interesting.

Even still, the arguments that religious people use to prove god are often emotionally loaded and lacking logic. This is because moreso than their actual belief in god, it's more about fitting in with their peers and believing what their peers believe, conforming to society. So in a way, theyr really worshipping society and authority more than theyr worshipping god, even if they can never admit this.
My evidence comes from studying and digging into the real world beyond the matrix, and experiencing mathematical proofs. I opened up to "super natural" stuff when considering energy flow and energy mechanics and what not, a purely scientific force that has barely been scratched upon as of yet.

Honestly, if I had not began as an atheist, a truth seeker, I would not have found the path. I do not follow religion, all religions are based off the mystery religions of the elite bankers and business owners and their family lines that have always ran the world.... So is this new age crap, eugenics, astrology, astronomy, geometry, it all ties into the mystery religion, which was initially passed down by pythagorus centuries ago, and has been passed down through elite blood lines.
I do not believe god wants slaves, I don't think god wants people bowing to him/her/it, I think god wants free thinking, conscious people, who have a hunger for knowledge enough to awaken and see through the matrix that is all around us. God does not require blind faith, because only a fool would have blind faith. God wants us to find evidence through awakening and seeking truth. God wants us to do good, to do right, not in order to fit into someone's cult, not for selfish purposes, but because it's the right thing to do. God wants people who are self sufficient, who can devise right and wrong of our own free will, who can rise above ego and indoctrination, for here and now is the 1st stage of hell, and it is likely a test to see if we've got what it takes to enter the next stage of existence. We have to prove ourselves before we can really get to know god that well, but likely god is a universal force of positive energy. I do not believe god is the big brother or dictator figure that religion presents him as. Religion is the doctrine of the beast more than anything, to lead people astray, control society's minds and pit them against one another. God is not a dictator, but I doubt those who are not awake will pass onto the next stage of existence, whatever that may be.

religions are generally allegories, theyr business plans, written so that the exoteric minded would not understand. The entire millenium was planned through the bible, koran, take your pick here. It's the same global plan, just regional differences.

Have a good trip Miss P. It's a journey worth taking.

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I'm very logical, like you. That is why I'm a philosopher and not an artist or an astrologer.

I'm a nonconformist, like you. Unlike too many people I have met, I cannot define religion as a community of people who go to Christian rock concerts and campouts. People regarded as true religious figures were often extremely solitary and eccentric.

I am mathematically challenged, but I try to learn as much physics as I can with that handicap. The universe is both more chaotic and more ordered than people think it is.

Misspickwickian finds this hilarious.

"Autistics are capable of anything in the name of obsession".

AMEN SISTER!!

I think I love you.

That post was amazing by the way, and not at all strange or uncomfortable. I do the same thing far too often, hence my bookshelf containing the Bible, a number of Hare Krishna books purchased from monks in the street, the Tibetan book of the Dead, The Prophet (Kahlil Gibran), Sophie's World (Jostein Gaarder), the Book of Mormon, the Q'uran, and err... think that's it.

Good luck on your spiritual journey! You seem like a very interesting person; plus, you have good grammatical skills, which increases my respect for you tenfold. Approximately.

You do snake a lot of respect by saying that.


Most people really don't define religion well and frankly, I don't think that concerts and campouts really are representative of a truly Christian faith too often. I disagree with your definition of a true religious figure. Neither being solitary nor eccentric seems to imply faith to me. Not only that, but I also don't see that really happening so much as many "true religious figures" as they were regarded were great leaders who pushed a different path. You could call them eccentric, but part of the real issue is really just a matter of identification. People see the eccentric man and then they notice his religion, or the religious figure goes down in history for embarking a different path, but really very few people get well known for being normal. Really though, I have an odd usage of the term religion.

I really don't think that snake is speaking of real science either. Perhaps I am just being a bit mean by saying these things, but I don't see snake as being the rationalist that I am, but rather an odd mystic who considers himself rational simply by not challenging his own assertions and eating of the fruit of skepticism. I dunno, I really don't think I hurt anything by arguing this point either as I know he has no respect for me and considers me practically the embodiment of evil.