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29 Sep 2010, 7:41 am

This is a controversial opinion but you never get anywhere by always being polite. My opinion is we will never solve racism in America and Europe until we get rid of ghettos. The way to do it is simple but will upset some people. Make a law that says no more than 40% of the citizens on one street, block or apartment building can be classed as an ethnic or religious minority.

As soon as any street, block, or apartment building has reached a rate of having 40% of its occupants belonging to an ethnic or religious minority, no more are allowed to move in. If we had this law we could start tackling crime in a serious, effective way. Ghettos are going to cause a headache for our nations for a long time until we solve them.

This law could solve several problems. Too many Muslims living in one place and becoming isolated from the mainstream Christian or Atheist culture is making extremism a problem. If Muslims spread out more both Muslims, Christians and Atheists will be forced to mix together more leading to more moderate differences. It will also solve the problem of black people commiting so much crime. I don't believe black people are to blame for this. Racism against them is terrible and endemic.

Black people are very unlikely to be given the job when there are white applicants. They are not given as good an education when they live in ghettos. Generally the areas they live in have awful services. No wonder they are more likely to commit crime than white people. White people would do the same if we were a minority living in a ghetto in an African or Carribean country.

To sum up, we need to help minorities integrate more. It will mean they get better education, feel they belong in America and Europe more and they will become more like the majority and the majority will also learn the values of their culture and the good ones will be taken into the melting pot.



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29 Sep 2010, 8:08 am

WonkyDonkey wrote:
This is a controversial opinion but you never get anywhere by always being polite. My opinion is we will never solve racism in America and Europe until we get rid of ghettos. The way to do it is simple but will upset some people. Make a law that says no more than 40% of the citizens on one street, block or apartment building can be classed as an ethnic or religious minority.

As soon as any street, block, or apartment building has reached a rate of having 40% of its occupants belonging to an ethnic or religious minority, no more are allowed to move in. If we had this law we could start tackling crime in a serious, effective way. Ghettos are going to cause a headache for our nations for a long time until we solve them.

This law could solve several problems. Too many Muslims living in one place and becoming isolated from the mainstream Christian or Atheist culture is making extremism a problem. If Muslims spread out more both Muslims, Christians and Atheists will be forced to mix together more leading to more moderate differences. It will also solve the problem of black people commiting so much crime. I don't believe black people are to blame for this. Racism against them is terrible and endemic.

Black people are very unlikely to be given the job when there are white applicants. They are not given as good an education when they live in ghettos. Generally the areas they live in have awful services. No wonder they are more likely to commit crime than white people. White people would do the same if we were a minority living in a ghetto in an African or Carribean country.

To sum up, we need to help minorities integrate more. It will mean they get better education, feel they belong in America and Europe more and they will become more like the majority and the majority will also learn the values of their culture and the good ones will be taken into the melting pot.


It's much more simple and direct to kill anybody whose skin shows the slightest indication of any color but cream white. It's a very messy beginning but it solves just so many problems. Freckles don't count.



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29 Sep 2010, 9:24 am

Sand wrote:
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This is a controversial opinion but you never get anywhere by always being polite. My opinion is we will never solve racism in America and Europe until we get rid of ghettos. The way to do it is simple but will upset some people. Make a law that says no more than 40% of the citizens on one street, block or apartment building can be classed as an ethnic or religious minority.

As soon as any street, block, or apartment building has reached a rate of having 40% of its occupants belonging to an ethnic or religious minority, no more are allowed to move in. If we had this law we could start tackling crime in a serious, effective way. Ghettos are going to cause a headache for our nations for a long time until we solve them.

This law could solve several problems. Too many Muslims living in one place and becoming isolated from the mainstream Christian or Atheist culture is making extremism a problem. If Muslims spread out more both Muslims, Christians and Atheists will be forced to mix together more leading to more moderate differences. It will also solve the problem of black people commiting so much crime. I don't believe black people are to blame for this. Racism against them is terrible and endemic.

Black people are very unlikely to be given the job when there are white applicants. They are not given as good an education when they live in ghettos. Generally the areas they live in have awful services. No wonder they are more likely to commit crime than white people. White people would do the same if we were a minority living in a ghetto in an African or Carribean country.

To sum up, we need to help minorities integrate more. It will mean they get better education, feel they belong in America and Europe more and they will become more like the majority and the majority will also learn the values of their culture and the good ones will be taken into the melting pot.


It's much more simple and direct to kill anybody whose skin shows the slightest indication of any color but cream white. It's a very messy beginning but it solves just so many problems. Freckles don't count.


Why shouldn't freckles count? Away with the gingers, I say.



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29 Sep 2010, 9:27 am

WonkyDonkey wrote:
This is a controversial opinion but you never get anywhere by always being polite. My opinion is we will never solve racism in America and Europe until we get rid of ghettos. The way to do it is simple but will upset some people. Make a law that says no more than 40% of the citizens on one street, block or apartment building can be classed as an ethnic or religious minority.

As soon as any street, block, or apartment building has reached a rate of having 40% of its occupants belonging to an ethnic or religious minority, no more are allowed to move in. If we had this law we could start tackling crime in a serious, effective way. Ghettos are going to cause a headache for our nations for a long time until we solve them.

This law could solve several problems. Too many Muslims living in one place and becoming isolated from the mainstream Christian or Atheist culture is making extremism a problem. If Muslims spread out more both Muslims, Christians and Atheists will be forced to mix together more leading to more moderate differences. It will also solve the problem of black people commiting so much crime. I don't believe black people are to blame for this. Racism against them is terrible and endemic.

Black people are very unlikely to be given the job when there are white applicants. They are not given as good an education when they live in ghettos. Generally the areas they live in have awful services. No wonder they are more likely to commit crime than white people. White people would do the same if we were a minority living in a ghetto in an African or Carribean country.

To sum up, we need to help minorities integrate more. It will mean they get better education, feel they belong in America and Europe more and they will become more like the majority and the majority will also learn the values of their culture and the good ones will be taken into the melting pot.

So basically, you think we should solve racism by being racist and acting as though the "white" way of living is the right way to live and ghettos are bad?


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29 Sep 2010, 9:27 am

I know Godwin's law and all that but clearing out the ghettos and keeping a racial purity? COME ON!! How am I supposed to NOT go there??


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29 Sep 2010, 9:53 am

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I know Godwin's law and all that but clearing out the ghettos and keeping a racial purity? COME ON!! How am I supposed to NOT go there??


That's the challenge dude ;)

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29 Sep 2010, 11:11 am

Well apart from it being illegal, unconstitutional, anti-freedom, it's just a dumb idea. Forcing people to be around other people won't make them integrate with each other. In fact it's quite the opposite. It creates gangs and racial tension.



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29 Sep 2010, 12:17 pm

Seriously, it won't work.

Forced desegregation (basically what you propose) has not worked.

Ghettos exist because of (1) poverty and (2) people who don't give a crap about the quality of where they live.

Poor people might not have much more than squalor because they can't afford better, but they can take care of what they have. A lot of ghettos are dumps because the people who are there live there for next-to-nothing and since they don't own where they live, there is no pride in maintaining it.

Forcing places to have no more than X percent of minorities will not solve the problem.



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29 Sep 2010, 1:36 pm

It's not as if no one has tried this before.

But basically only da baddest, most hardcore ganstas can survive amongst all dem white people. ;)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1477163.stm


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29 Sep 2010, 1:39 pm

Jacoby wrote:
Well apart from it being illegal, unconstitutional, anti-freedom, it's just a dumb idea. Forcing people to be around other people won't make them integrate with each other. In fact it's quite the opposite. It creates gangs and racial tension.


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Seriously, it won't work.

Forced desegregation (basically what you propose) has not worked.

Ghettos exist because of (1) poverty and (2) people who don't give a crap about the quality of where they live.

Poor people might not have much more than squalor because they can't afford better, but they can take care of what they have. A lot of ghettos are dumps because the people who are there live there for next-to-nothing and since they don't own where they live, there is no pride in maintaining it.

Forcing places to have no more than X percent of minorities will not solve the problem.


Points well made. I concede defeat in this debate.



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29 Sep 2010, 1:40 pm

I'm trying to think of a polite way to put this...

I'm going to follow my mother's advice and not say anything at all.

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29 Sep 2010, 6:43 pm

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It's much more simple and direct to kill anybody whose skin shows the slightest indication of any color but cream white. It's a very messy beginning but it solves just so many problems. Freckles don't count.

Erradicating all other races will stop racism, with only one existing, there is no point of being racist.


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29 Sep 2010, 7:14 pm

greenblue wrote:
Sand wrote:
It's much more simple and direct to kill anybody whose skin shows the slightest indication of any color but cream white. It's a very messy beginning but it solves just so many problems. Freckles don't count.

Erradicating all other races will stop racism, with only one existing, there is no point of being racist.


You think. Left handers will go to war against right handers.

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29 Sep 2010, 7:53 pm

ruveyn wrote:
greenblue wrote:
Sand wrote:
It's much more simple and direct to kill anybody whose skin shows the slightest indication of any color but cream white. It's a very messy beginning but it solves just so many problems. Freckles don't count.

Erradicating all other races will stop racism, with only one existing, there is no point of being racist.


You think. Left handers will go to war against right handers.

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Yes, but that wouldn't be racism (from current conventions), would it?


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29 Sep 2010, 8:06 pm

greenblue wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
greenblue wrote:
Sand wrote:
It's much more simple and direct to kill anybody whose skin shows the slightest indication of any color but cream white. It's a very messy beginning but it solves just so many problems. Freckles don't count.

Erradicating all other races will stop racism, with only one existing, there is no point of being racist.


You think. Left handers will go to war against right handers.

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Yes, but that wouldn't be racism (from current conventions), would it?


Argument is that people will always find a way to segregate amongst themselves and discriminate against those who aren't like them.

Black vs. White, Lefty vs. Righty, Christians vs. Muslims, Aspies vs. NTs, those who like Animaniacs vs. those who don't like Animaniacs... there will be something people will construct.

As for the original topic, this would never work. The backlash would create far more problems than any good that might come arise from such policy. If anything, forced movements would create even higher amounts of racism and racial tensions - cause who wants to move because some third party says so?



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29 Sep 2010, 9:10 pm

Quartz11 wrote:
greenblue wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
greenblue wrote:
Sand wrote:
It's much more simple and direct to kill anybody whose skin shows the slightest indication of any color but cream white. It's a very messy beginning but it solves just so many problems. Freckles don't count.

Erradicating all other races will stop racism, with only one existing, there is no point of being racist.


You think. Left handers will go to war against right handers.

ruveyn

Yes, but that wouldn't be racism (from current conventions), would it?


Argument is that people will always find a way to segregate amongst themselves and discriminate against those who aren't like them.

Black vs. White, Lefty vs. Righty, Christians vs. Muslims, Aspies vs. NTs, those who like Animaniacs vs. those who don't like Animaniacs... there will be something people will construct.

As for the original topic, this would never work. The backlash would create far more problems than any good that might come arise from such policy. If anything, forced movements would create even higher amounts of racism and racial tensions - cause who wants to move because some third party says so?


It's an old story. Jonathon Swift in Gulliver's Travels spoke about the wars over which end of an egg to break in the morning for breakfast. Most people of a philosophic mind,Voltaire, Anatole France, Mark Twain, Kurt Vonnegut, Einstein, gave up on the vicious stupidity of humanity in general.