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07 Feb 2008, 9:02 pm

I do not have kids, and with the state of the world, I would not feel right bringing kids into this world.... But my question is a general question. I do not think spanking should be illegal, it's just the PC gestappo going overboard as usual. There is a difference between child abuse and giving your child a spanking. When I was a kid, if I did something wrong, I got a whoopn'. Outcome was, I learned.
I think part of the problem why people today are so irrational was because they never learned right from wrong (I said **part** of the reason). Likely their parents where too hippy-vegan wussies to take their belt off and teach them...... I do not think parents should ever WANT to punish their kids, but, sometimes it has to be done.



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07 Feb 2008, 9:04 pm

this entire spanking thing has no positive impact whatsoever it is completely worthless and produces physical and psychological problems in the long run... hence i vote for..


ILLEGALITY!


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07 Feb 2008, 9:17 pm

I was firmly against spanking before I became the mother of a child who benefits from spanking. The arguments against it -sound- very logical, but they do not always hold true in practice. I think the main fault of spanking is the stigma against it in certain Western cultures, which leads parents not to use spanking as a normal disciplinary consequence but rather out of desperation when they are at their wits' end. They often then act guilty about it afterward, because of that stigma, causing the child to lose trust in his parents' decisions. Studies quoted by anti-spanking circles are typically misrepresented. As always, I recommend going back to the original source. There are -no- studies proving that spanking causes emotional problems or increases misbehavior. In fact, I have seen one study that shows such negative effects to be culturally bound, in which there was a correlation between cultural disapproval of spanking and increased misbehavior.

I still think that spanking is largely unnecessary for children of most temperaments. But should it be made illegal? Certainly not.


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07 Feb 2008, 9:23 pm

Isn't it illegal already?



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07 Feb 2008, 9:24 pm

Vexcalibur wrote:
Isn't it illegal already?


yes if it causes permanent physical damages.. then it becomes a child abuse case.


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07 Feb 2008, 9:28 pm

does somebody smack thier child over every little thing or use it to get their attention over serious matters ?

I would say educating parents on when to give the kid a few spanks on the butt when the offense justifies it is fine and only when the parent isn't emotionally upset. Did the parent take time to cool off and than think the offense was serious enough the child needed to really get the point they really crossed the line ?

If somebody is going to regret their action afterwards, it's evident they didn't think about their action before doing it, so they are no better than the child to not think things threw first.



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07 Feb 2008, 10:25 pm

Yes, as it should be illegal for parents to walk the fine line of "near abuse" rather than what is seen by common society as "abuse". I know a lot of parents are just straight up douche bags and they should be thrown in prison too. There goes 90 percent of the adults from USA..
Then again, maybe the experiences that I had were a benefit to me, at least now I know for sure how NOT to treat your kids, that is to say if I will ever have any.


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08 Feb 2008, 3:24 am

NO. Some kids need a firm slap on the wrists to show them what's wrong. Doesn't work with some kids, works with others. However, I think that there should be a limit as to the acceptable forms of corporal punishment.


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08 Feb 2008, 8:43 am

username88 wrote:
Yes, as it should be illegal for parents to walk the fine line of "near abuse" rather than what is seen by common society as "abuse". I know a lot of parents are just straight up douche bags and they should be thrown in prison too. There goes 90 percent of the adults from USA..
Then again, maybe the experiences that I had were a benefit to me, at least now I know for sure how NOT to treat your kids, that is to say if I will ever have any.


90% of the united states is bent... thanks for the good statistic :P that is actually verifiably correct :p


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08 Feb 2008, 8:47 am

NO! They tried to outlaw spanking here in Massachusetts, and were thoroughly ridiculed for it by just about everyone :lol:

BTW, I wish you had created this as a poll... I love polls :D



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08 Feb 2008, 11:24 am

I was never traumatized as a child for getting spankings, but it did teach me not to make the same mistake again. Because of it I was much better disciplined. I believe there is a difference between a spanking and beating the crap out of your kid. Child abuse should not be tolerated, but I do not see a spanking as child abuse (unless it's unusually excessive in force).
However if you've got a misbehaved male teen who will not clean up their act, and you've tried everything else you can think of and nothing is working, beating can be an absolute last resort. My dad was this way about me finishing high school, he told me if I dropped out he'd beat the crap out of me, not because he wanted to (he's never hit me, he has spanked me a few times though when I was little), but because he wanted me to do good for myself.



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08 Feb 2008, 11:26 am

Kids today are being spoiled though, and they often act like total brats because their parents never discipline them, and theyr used to thinking they can get away with anything they do. This is step 1 in creating an irresponsible society.
Don't get me wrong, I love kids, if theyr being raised right and they can act respectful. But a child is only as good as they are brought up.



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08 Feb 2008, 12:25 pm

It should be illegal. The only thing you get from spanking your kids, is that they'll start lying when they do something bad.


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08 Feb 2008, 12:47 pm

No, society should not have such power over other people's kids. What should we regulate next? Proper times to go to bed? The content of every meal? Every thought and teaching that goes into their head? We can argue that spanking is wrong, but I don't think that it being disliked by some psychologists means we should outlaw it for all people simply for the reason that that this disrupts parental sovereignty.



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08 Feb 2008, 1:33 pm

Making it illegal to cannibalize your children also disrupts parents' sovereignty.



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08 Feb 2008, 1:58 pm

pandabear wrote:
Making it illegal to cannibalize your children also disrupts parents' sovereignty.

Yes, it also is noted for inevitably causing permanent danger to children, spanking is not known for the same given the number of people who have been spanked and then gone on to lead productive lives. We can debate back and forth on the ethics of cannibalism, but at this point it isn't a reasonable argument as most parents don't eat their kids and there is no movement to do so.