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15 Mar 2008, 1:40 am

Why do people keep saying Hillary won Texas? She didn't. She lost the total popular vote, and she lost the delegate count. She did not win.

She has only won Ohio and Rhode Island. She is way behind in the delegate count, and the popular vote. She has only one two election, in the last 16 contests.



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16 Mar 2008, 11:10 am

It's the media, and it's not middle of the road objective.



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16 Mar 2008, 11:59 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
It's the media, and it's not middle of the road objective.
Hmm?



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16 Mar 2008, 12:27 pm

I just saw a dying thread. Media, middle, median, midpoint, etc. Get it?



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16 Mar 2008, 12:34 pm

The media are those who stand between you and the facts; they are, sort of, in the middle.

It's a play on words.


As for Clinton, I don't know the details. However if Clinton is reelected I'll not be too thrilled.



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16 Mar 2008, 2:59 pm

The results from the office of the secretary of the state

http://enr.sos.state.tx.us/enr/mar04_13 ... 148&id=634

Perhaps people are saying she won Texas because she won Texas?



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16 Mar 2008, 3:01 pm

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As for Clinton, I don't know the details. However if Clinton is reelected I'll not be too thrilled.


Uh, reelected?



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16 Mar 2008, 3:10 pm

viska wrote:
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As for Clinton, I don't know the details. However if Clinton is reelected I'll not be too thrilled.


Uh, reelected?


She might have been first lady before, but Bill seems too stupid to make any real decisions. Aside from rhetoric skills, Hilary surpasses Bill. Either way, back in the White House would be more proper to say, as she wasn't "elected" last time.



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16 Mar 2008, 3:17 pm

viska wrote:
The results from the office of the secretary of the state

http://enr.sos.state.tx.us/enr/mar04_13 ... 148&id=634

Perhaps people are saying she won Texas because she won Texas?


Ah, the mistake was that, under Early, Clinton got Early 613,344 and Obama got 649,001 i.e. the extrapolation of data was inconsistent when the total were counted.



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16 Mar 2008, 6:35 pm

iamnotaparakeet wrote:
She might have been first lady before, but Bill seems too stupid to make any real decisions. Aside from rhetoric skills, Hilary surpasses Bill. Either way, back in the White House would be more proper to say, as she wasn't "elected" last time.


:roll: The guy got a frigging RHODES SCHOLARSHIP to Oxford for Heaven's sake, that's pretty good for a guy from a hick town in Arkansas. I'm pretty sure he's not stupid.


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16 Mar 2008, 6:46 pm

Odin wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
She might have been first lady before, but Bill seems too stupid to make any real decisions. Aside from rhetoric skills, Hilary surpasses Bill. Either way, back in the White House would be more proper to say, as she wasn't "elected" last time.


:roll: The guy got a frigging RHODES SCHOLARSHIP to Oxford for Heaven's sake, that's pretty good for a guy from a hick town in Arkansas. I'm pretty sure he's not stupid.

And I got accepted to Oxford for undergraduate studies, doesn't mean I'm exactly a genius.


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16 Mar 2008, 7:13 pm

Talking about "winning" a state is fair enough if you're a Republican candidate, and in the presidential election itself, but in the Democratic nomination process it's not even the right term to use. There should ideally be more talk about the net gain of delegates. But of course you couldn't make catchy and dramatic headlines out of that.



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16 Mar 2008, 8:02 pm

It is projected that Obama will win the Texas caucuses which will put him ahead with the delegate count. However, Texas will not officially finish their caucus until the DNC.



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17 Mar 2008, 12:02 am

Hector wrote:
Talking about "winning" a state is fair enough if you're a Republican candidate, and in the presidential election itself, but in the Democratic nomination process it's not even the right term to use. There should ideally be more talk about the net gain of delegates. But of course you couldn't make catchy and dramatic headlines out of that.


I agree. I think they should do it correctly. Maybe checker it by congressional delegation rather than by state. It would give us a better picture. But you know, all the expensive machinary at Fox and CNN, and even MSNBC, are designed to show states, not districts.